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Essentially no, thus my comment on liking the intent. However, and this is just me personally, with today's equipment I no longer sit and look up wire resistance per inch and calculate all the variables needed to build a coil with a specific length of wire.
This is simply because the tools are now available to input minimal data and have this done on the fly in far less time with little chance for an error.
I then confirm my builds with accurate meters and always check/maintain my Mechanical mods in an effort to eliminate unexpected induced variables.
As stated Teaching/learning is important............ and there are levels of understanding as well as ability to apply.
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My considerations come from outside the vaping arena. In the 35yrs. spent in DC electronics I endured many failed attempts to teach several workers how to wire a simple 5 pin relay for varying requirements.(multiple relays........forget it) Yet for some reason this knowledge was simple and clear to me.
I finally made a booklet of various pictured wiring requirements for use.
well even for experienced people a reference guide can be an invaluable tool, I wouldn't mind having a copy of that booklet myself
I have to use the vape calcs, because I don't know the formula -- and no, it would do no good at all to repeat it at me to infinity, because it WILL NOT STICK. Not even if I use different letters.
It's the same reason I had to get an Omnitester instead of using my husband's nice multimeter -- I don't know what goes where (also why I'll never understand football... I don't know who goes where and why, nor why 10 yds is a "down," nor why a 3rd down is different from a 1st down... it's 10 yds! That's all I know! Spare me the details because I don't care anyway! I'll holler when everyone else does!).
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17: You wind a .4 ohm coil, mount it in your RDA, wick and prime it then remount the RDA on your ohm checker just for peace of mind before mounting it on your brand new authentic 100%red copper mechanical for the first time. You know your authentic Samsung 25R's are fully charged and you lick your lips in anticipation of your first vape on you brand new DREAM rig. The ohm checker, however tells you your coil is now reading .2 ohms.
What do you do and Why do you do it?
What do you do and Why do you do it?
I passed the test and then my mod exploded thanks for the jinx.
I just had an image of you screwing your RDA onto your mod, the mod flashing CONGRATULATIONS YOU'VE WON! and then exploding. my mind is weird
I use a multimeter because I already had one and im too cheap to buy an omnitester, however those testers are IMO a much better tool (albeit a uni tasker, which I avoid) for the purpose, especially when building a new coil, very easy to do if you screw your RDA on to the meter and use it as a base to hold the RDA in place.I have to use the vape calcs, because I don't know the formula -- and no, it would do no good at all to repeat it at me to infinity, because it WILL NOT STICK. Not even if I use different letters.
It's the same reason I had to get an Omnitester instead of using my husband's nice multimeter -- I don't know what goes where (also why I'll never understand football... I don't know who goes where and why, nor why 10 yds is a "down," nor why a 3rd down is different from a 1st down... it's 10 yds! That's all I know! Spare me the details because I don't care anyway! I'll holler when everyone else does!).
Andria
Since I mainly use regulated mods, I haven't really used the Omnitester much, but I *have* found it very useful when a mod is telling me something that seems odd -- my iTaste vv3's routinely tell me the resistance is .1 higher than it reads anywhere else.
And I've discovered something weird about vv3's... they're not supposed to fire below 1.3, right? They will. I was just dry-burning a coil that I *know* is 1.3; when I first checked the resistance, using the vv3 I was using to dry-burn it, it said .9 ... but it fired, got the coil nice and glowy. After that first firing, I checked it again, and it now said 1.1 -- and still fired.
Andria
1. Are you using IMR batteries? (If yes, move to next step.)
2. Are your batteries of a reputable brand bought from a reputable vendor? (If yes...)
3. Do you know the limits of your batteries? (If yes...)
4. Do you know what numbers to feed an Ohms law calculator? (If yes...)
5. Are you able to detect a short circuit prior to firing your atty? (If yes...)
6. Is your mod properly vented? (If yes...)
7. Do you take responsibility for your own knowledge and actions? (If yes...)
8. Do you believe a regulated mod will keep you protected you from all of the above? (Trick question! If yes - return to start)
While I applaud the initiative (really!) - keeping it simple and concise won't scare away the customers.
If no:
1: Stop what you are doing, recycle your batteries and buy IMR batteries. See point 2.
2. Recycle and get new ones.
3. Google or ask your fellow ECF member
4. For mechanicals: Volt and resistance (Volt being 4.2 - resistance being your coil.) For regulated mods - know the maximum amp draw.
5. Get a digital multimeter / resistance checker or use a quality regulated mod with a proven track record.
6. Don't use it or drill holes.
7. You should.
8. You are right. Regulated mods won't keep you from stressing an unfit battery or keep a non-IMR battery from catching fire if abused. Can we please stop telling people regulated mods will keep them safe from not knowing/learning anything?
2. Are your batteries of a reputable brand bought from a reputable vendor? (If yes...)
3. Do you know the limits of your batteries? (If yes...)
4. Do you know what numbers to feed an Ohms law calculator? (If yes...)
5. Are you able to detect a short circuit prior to firing your atty? (If yes...)
6. Is your mod properly vented? (If yes...)
7. Do you take responsibility for your own knowledge and actions? (If yes...)
8. Do you believe a regulated mod will keep you protected you from all of the above? (Trick question! If yes - return to start)
While I applaud the initiative (really!) - keeping it simple and concise won't scare away the customers.
If no:
1: Stop what you are doing, recycle your batteries and buy IMR batteries. See point 2.
2. Recycle and get new ones.
3. Google or ask your fellow ECF member
4. For mechanicals: Volt and resistance (Volt being 4.2 - resistance being your coil.) For regulated mods - know the maximum amp draw.
5. Get a digital multimeter / resistance checker or use a quality regulated mod with a proven track record.
6. Don't use it or drill holes.
7. You should.
8. You are right. Regulated mods won't keep you from stressing an unfit battery or keep a non-IMR battery from catching fire if abused. Can we please stop telling people regulated mods will keep them safe from not knowing/learning anything?
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Since I mainly use regulated mods, I haven't really used the Omnitester much, but I *have* found it very useful when a mod is telling me something that seems odd -- my iTaste vv3's routinely tell me the resistance is .1 higher than it reads anywhere else.
And I've discovered something weird about vv3's... they're not supposed to fire below 1.3, right? They will. I was just dry-burning a coil that I *know* is 1.3; when I first checked the resistance, using the vv3 I was using to dry-burn it, it said .9 ... but it fired, got the coil nice and glowy. After that first firing, I checked it again, and it now said 1.1 -- and still fired.
Andria
well any meter can fluctuate in readings, in a regulated device its not really a good idea to wrap to the lowest limit anyways, I would recommend going higher, to say 1.7-2 ohms.
.2 ohms? Samsung 25r?
Drill that air hole, wick it up and change the weather.
I'm rockin a .2 ohm build in my 454, on my copper vapelyfe right now.
Sadly I have long sense left that behind. I closed my business almost 10yrs ago in total burn out and moved on to another field letting others take the burden of daily operations.
The gap Generational Gap between intelligence and stupidity had grown to the point I felt trapped in the center of a massive void. We won't get into the challenges that can bring to a business, but I think you have a good idea.
I'm proud of Baditude's and AndriaD's Post showing that not fully understanding does not stop one from finding the solution.
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Uhhhhh, gonna stick with regulated mods for now. Not that I had planned to do differently, but this definately tells me I have much to learn.
Im currently having an issue with a coworker along those lines, he fails to understand the basics of what we do, and we frequently see him BS his way through conversations, but the owners wont fire him because he brings in the most profit.Sadly I have long sense left that behind. I closed my business almost 10yrs ago in total burn out and moved on to another field letting others take the burden of daily operations.
The gap Generational Gap between intelligence and stupidity had grown to the point I felt trapped in the center of a massive void. We won't get into the challenges that can bring to a business, but I think you have a good idea.
I'm proud of Baditude's and AndriaD's Post showing that not fully understanding does not stop one from finding the solution.
Teach/Learn
Ask/Answer
Good test. Not too hard, not to simple.
Vaping is not simple. The problem comes when people think its as simple as putting two parts together and putting a battery in the tube and hitting the fire button.
Vaping is not simple. The problem comes when people think its as simple as putting two parts together and putting a battery in the tube and hitting the fire button.
I would think for the vast majority of vapers, it is that simple.
But they are using cigalikes, and don't even have to put a battery in a tube.
I guess it is debatable as to whether or not they qualify as vapers though.
Some are, and there are probably quite a few that are not.
Yet.
Oh c'mon; with all this battery safety, I gotta push the envelope *somewhere*!
Seriously, I meant to wrap a 1.4Ω for my magma, but I'm very, very far from an expert (nevermind that NEW GURU TITLE! YEAH! FINALLY REACHED IT!!!
), so my coils often vary from their projected resistance, by .1 or sometimes even .2 (though I think when it varies that much, it's because I grabbed the wrong drillbit!); but the 1.3 performs so beautifully in my magma, I started wrapping my kayfun coils at 1.4-1.5 instead of the 1.8 I had used since I started using kayfuns last summer. I'll never be a cloud chaser, because of my asthma, but the slightly greater vapor I'm getting from the slightly lower resistance is really terrific; outstanding flavor.Andria
I would think for the vast majority of vapers, it is that simple.
But they are using cigalikes, and don't even have to put a battery in a tube.
I guess it is debatable as to whether or not they qualify as vapers though.
Some are, and there are probably quite a few that are not.
Yet.
Hmm.
Its worth remembering that the vast majority of early explosions were caused by cigalikes. I think its conceivable that a .2 mech on a authentic VTC4 could be considered safer than a cigalike?
One safety item that needs to be added regarding batteries: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 'PULSE RATING' AS AN OFFICIAL MEANS OF RATING BATTERIES. DO NOT RELY ON A BATTERY'S SUPPOSED 'PULSE RATING' WHEN CALCULATING FOR SAFE LIMITS. Pulse ratings are BS, because they are arbitrary. Use Continuous Discharge Ratings, and allow a cushion.
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