Thanks to all that helped. Vaping scene. Good Bye

[aalmosawi]

well i am ready to call it quits with this vaping scene.
i want to thank all the people that helped me out on this forum. youve all been great!

i came to vaping because i used to smoke hookah 1-2 times a day. sometimes more. and it would buzz me every time. cause my blood pressure to rise all the time. and i only have one kidney (born this way) so its not good. but i still feel the need to do a hookah. The whole hookah scene in the middle east is perfectly legal and is everywhere.

now for me i smoke hookah and with hookah we have lots of cool flavours. with hookah i spend 2 dollars on a flavour molasses and can sit there for 2 hours and be satisfied.

now with vaping a 30mil bottle of flavour is 19.95. that's extreme. no that's absurd. it simply too expensive.

vaping hardware is on the rise as people are still experimenting.

believe me when i say i ordered my hardware with my brother a month ago and i was so eager to do this.
but then when i started to learn to want to create ejuice i was shutdown many times.
i cant even vape because i cant make the darned thing. and as i have said many many times. i have no access to nic. except for the pre made bottles that are brought in from china.
i asked many times for people to help me factor that into my flavour and received no help so i sat here scratching my head.
then the issue of PG. we simply don't have access to it. i am not sure if its banned really or the idiots that sell it in Baghdad are truthful in saying there's no demand for it so its minimal and they raise the price.
then the issue of ordering online. NO ONE wants to ship to Baghdad. I can only do DHL/FedEx and those two for many shops are exaggerated.

i've only vaped like 3 to 4 times. literally!!!! with the ejuice that i had ordered (pictured) cause i was afraid it would finish and i would be screwed so i began my journey of making ejuice. a failure at best.

i think i am gonna wave the white flag. this is just a non-doable thing for me. sadly. i wish there was a way. i am forcing myself to abort. now i am gonna go dust off that old hookah and buy some new mollases. and find the coals. argh.. i hate coals.

 

[Falconeer]

Sorry it hasn't worked out for you...I wonder though - do the chemist shops there sell Pharmaceutical Grade glycerine which can be diluted with 20% pure water to make aqueous glycerine which can be vaped?

Are any of the flavourings used with hookah stuff suitable for dilution or addition to aqueous glycerine?

I don't know what your own beliefs and the local law's opinions on alcohol are there, but is vodka perhaps available in the larger hotel bars - small amounts of vodka for throat hit could be added to aqueous glycerine I believe.

Just a couple of thoughts

 

[aalmosawi]

Sorry it hasn't worked out for you...I wonder though - do the chemist shops there sell Pharmaceutical Grade glycerine which can be diluted with 20% pure water to make aqueous glycerine which can be vaped?

Are any of the flavourings used with hookah stuff suitable for dilution or addition to aqueous glycerine?

I don't know what your own beliefs and the local law's opinions on alcohol are there, but is vodka perhaps available in the larger hotel bars - small amounts of vodka for throat hit could be added to aqueous glycerine I believe.

Just a couple of thoughts

i have glycerine.
whats the hookah flavours got to do with it? those come all done. theres no flavourings to use.

and in regards to alcohol. there are shops down the street that sell all sorts of alcohol. no problem there. what do you want me to do with vodka? just not sure what you're at here?

 

[Falconeer]

Can I suggest you re read my post?
I have tried to offer you the most helpful suggestions I could think of.
I can say no more nor explain myself more clearly; equally clearly this has not been helpful to you so sorry and I'll depart the thread!

 

[aalmosawi]

Can I suggest you re read my post?
I have tried to offer you the most helpful suggestions I could think of.
I can say no more nor explain myself more clearly; equally clearly this has not been helpful to you so sorry and I'll depart the thread!

Thanks for that.
thats one of the points i was trying to get at. the vaping scene is non-helpful to newbies.

Thanks anyways.

 

[MudVaper]

This is really sad news, just because vaping is so much more healthy than tobacco.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Thanks for that.
thats one of the points i was trying to get at. the vaping scene is non-helpful to newbies.

Thanks anyways.

The vape scene is very helpful to newbies, but we can't change the country you reside in nor it's laws keeping you from buying the things we use daily. I'm sure most members here would love to be able to help but some things we just can't fix/help with even with the best advice we can possibly offer such as Falconeer did.

 

[NoFumus]

The juices that you can buy, can you get them in 24mg nicotine strength, with a high PG content? If so, you could then dilute them by a factor of anywhere from 2x to 8x with VG, to get closer the nicotine strength you wanted. There are calculators online that would help you figure out the amt of VG to add. Then you might be able find appropriate food-grade flavorings to add back in. Even adding the cost of any flavoring and VG, that should greatly reduce your cost from $19.99/30 ml.

I hope you are able to find a solution that works for you.

 

[aalmosawi]

The juices that you can buy, can you get them in 24mg nicotine strength, with a high PG content? If so, you could then dilute them by a factor of anywhere from 2x to 8x with VG, to get closer the nicotine strength you wanted. There are calculators online that would help you figure out the amt of VG to add. Then you might be able find appropriate food-grade flavorings to add back in. Even adding the cost of any flavoring and VG, that should greatly reduce your cost from $19.99/30 ml.

I hope you are able to find a solution that works for you.

 

[roxynoodle]

Yep, that is a way to reduce your cost. Buy premade liquid in the highest nic you can get, then dilute them down with vg. Get the highest pg content liquid you can, too.

If you are asking us how to make nic solution, well, that is difficult. The ones we are buying in the US are very purified. You could do your own extractions from tobacco, but it will probably not taste very good.

 

[aalmosawi]

so i should smoke the chinese crap that taste like rubber tires?
lol
life is fair.

 

[roxynoodle]

I would go unflavored myself

Unflavored is a valid choice, better than flavored like tires! I vape unflavored sometimes. Not bad at all, and I prefer it to bad flavors.

Can you get Hangsen from China? I use some of their flavors in my diy, and they are pretty good. If I were you I would buy Hangsen and dilute it.

I'm sorry you live where it is difficult.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

I wouldn't smoke any of it including hooka, but I would vape crappy juice while trying to make it better if it was all I could get.

Have you tried diluting any of the juices you have with the vg you have to see if it improves taste?
Is unflavored chinese crap available in your nic range?
There are a couple chinese juices that are pretty good.

 

[aalmosawi]

thats the bottle on the far right in the picture you mean?

that is $2 for that tiny unit. a bit extreme? 10mil.

i'll tell you what. the strawberry on that thing tastes/smells better than the diy i was making with only vg. i'll be honest. but its too tiny!

i was in contact with the supplier and they're willing to ship to me but i am not sure about customs here. they banned ecigs and ejuice so its a 50/50 chance. it may pass and may not.

 

[roxynoodle]

Yeah, that is your biggest problem is customs. Otherwise members here could send you stuff. And once you get caught they will open all your packages.

$2/10ml is pretty cheap TBH. If I buy the cheapest vendor juice here it is $5/30ml.

 

[MudVaper]

thats the bottle on the far right in the picture you mean?

that is $2 for that tiny unit. a bit extreme? 10mil.

i'll tell you what. the strawberry on that thing tastes/smells better than the diy i was making with only vg. i'll be honest. but its too tiny!

i was in contact with the supplier and they're willing to ship to me but i am not sure about customs here. they banned ecigs and ejuice so its a 50/50 chance. it may pass and may not.

I don't know what the exchange rate is, especially when compared to what wages actually are, so $2 bucks could be a very high cost for you.

Have you looked into availability of vegetable glycerin instead of pg?

I just hate to see someone have to give up vaping vs. tobacco

 

[smokinGAVIN]

Do you know anyone there who also vapes? There is probably a small vaping community or group somewhere around you and they can point you in the right direction.

 

[crxess]

Simple question.

Have you spent ANY real time Here?
DIY E-Liquid

There are Many Experienced members there. Some may even be willing to work one-on-one with you through Private conversation.

Your choices are your own and I will not fault your final decision. I will give you my way of handling things.
Never tell me Never, it can't be done, that is impossible............I will find My answers my way. I rarely give up and continue until I have reached a satisfactory conclusion.

Glad to, or I would have never found out about Vaping

* No Way sitting with a Hooka can beat reaching in your pocket for a Vape and doing anything you please. Old Motto - Sleep is necessary Time lost, Dormancy is Wasted Time lost.

 

[retired1]

Simple question.

Have you spent ANY real time Here?

Member is in the Middle East where obtaining supplies is difficult.

 

[retired1]

@aalmosawi did you check this forum? العربية