the 3 months blahs

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texasgranny

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Adeline
So sorry to hear about your troubles. It appears at times of stress we tend to look for an
old familar friend that use to help us get thru those times....the cig.
But as we all know, our old familiar friend, is not really our friend, so I hope so much for
you that you decide to stay strong.

I truly, truly do not think your nic is strong enough at this point of stress!
I vape average of 18 or so.
I have 36 for times of stress and times of weakness!!!

I would so hope that you give the higher nic a chance.
I also agree with DaveP....life is about choices and it appears you need to decide if
you are truly happy and if not....make changes.

Take it from someone who has been around a loooong time.
I so wish you the best.
 

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OP, can you afford to see a counselor that you could talk to about quitting smoking? or if you are a student you could see one for free. A lot of them are practicing smoking / substance cessation now.

For me, I'm pleased to have just cut down by around 60% and I see that not as a failiure but as a huge achievement.

And to be honest I still enjoy those few ciggys i still have and feel they are so few that they wont really make that much differecne to my quality of life, just like a few drinks or steaks or whatever. Everything in moderation.
 
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If its any help, I'm also at the 3 month timeframe,I've noticed that if I go below 18mg/ml juice I start having thoughts of grabbing a cancerstick.

I found this out by accident: I'd ordered juice and I must have clicked the wrong strength and I got 12mg, I just shrugged and didnt give it a lot of thought. Within a day on the 12mg I started having thoughts of cancersticks so I grabbed some of my 100mg/ml mixing juice and boosted it up to 18mg strength. Immediately the thoughts went away.

I'm sticking with 18mg now, there's no need to go any lower.

Its interesting that they were just thoughts of "a smoke would be kinda nice" but not actual cravings, just romanticized thoughts of analog smoking. It was weird.
 

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OP, can you afford to see a counselor that you could talk to about quitting smoking? or if you are a student you could see one for free. A lot of them are practicing smoking / substance cessation now.

Because of my living situation, I was forced to see a counselor (the other option eviction and termination of my relationship), so I have started to see one. As it turns out, she quit smoking a couple years back. She is fascinated by my PV, and wrote down the info to pass along to other clients, and lets me vape during sessions. I have expressed my concerns with her, and talked about what is keeping me off of them currently (fear of being caught). So to make a long story short, yes I'm seeking professional help on the matter.

Its interesting that they were just thoughts of "a smoke would be kinda nice" but not actual cravings, just romanticized thoughts of analog smoking. It was weird.
Kinda sums up how I feel. It's not like the cravings of quitting cold turkey, but more of a sad reminiscing, like losing an old friend. As far as my nic levels, I can opt for double or triple the strength I'm using now, if things get difficult. Unfortunately, I think it's not (at least solely) the nicotine that's causing my unrest, but rather general unhappiness and lack of choices in my current life situation. I'd even go so far as to say that I have so little control over anything else right now, that I just want to be able to control *something,* whether it be how much I eat or smoke.

Needless to say, there's a lot going on that has nothing to do with smoking or not smoking, but it's one of my biggest concerns right now, second to the health or existence of the relationship I'm in. I'm not sure what the answer is...

On another note, my cartos seem to be going bad pretty fast, or maybe I just expect them to last much longer than they were designed to, but they've started to taste bad pretty quickly since using them on my Ego PT. Not sure if switching from the Riva batts to the Ego batts has anything to do with it, but I'm going to have to throw these 2 away (my favorite juices inside) for clean ones that don't taste, well, like crap.
 

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I hope things are better now than they were, I love vaping....... smoking. Its cool that you reached out in this forum and vented. Evidently people care! Again I hope all is well.
It's probably a combination of the exorbitant amount of stress in my life -- I moved across the country 2.5 months ago, I still don't have a job, and I'm having straining issues in my relationship that are threatening its very existence -- and hitting the notorious 3 month mark, but being smoke free is losing its luster.

It's not really a craving, not like I used to have. It isn't an overwhelming urge like the ones that sent me to the gas station in the middle of the night for a pack of the death sticks... but it's there. I think about them far too often and even plan when and how I'm going to go get a pack and how I'll hide them and hide the fact that I'm smoking them. I'd be lying to say I'm not strongly considering it... every day.

It's difficult. I quit for someone else, not myself, and I think that plays a big part of it. I still want to stay quit, I don't want to smoke a pack of them per day like I used to, but I want the option to smoke a couple of them per day. It may be in spite of the person I quit for, anger for pushing me away, but that's a different story.

I wish I had the same desire to never pick one up, the one that I held on to tight for the first few months. But the smell of someone smoking .. it smells good, and I breathe deep whenever I walk by a smoker. Stale smoke is still really gross to me, but a burning cigarette makes me antsy and jealous. And the thought of smoking a couple doesn't make me feel bad, doesn't make me feel like I'm losing progress. I don't want to stop vaping, but damn, I'm stressed and want to smoke and that is stressing me out -- a vicious circle I can't break right now.

I've cut my nicotine way down - I started at 18mg, worked down to 12, and have been at 6mg for probably a month now. I don't think it's the lessening nicotine that's causing the cravings, as it never was an issue from the start.. but I have 12mg and 18mg tucked away anyway. I doubt that'll help me at this point, I'm convinced it's entirely psychological... I'm either going to break down and smoke them, or continue this battle until my desires disappear again.

I wish I thought I would be receptive to support from my family and friends, but that this point I don't know that it would help me. I know I'm doing a good job, I know it's a tough thing to overcome, and I know that I just need to stick with it, because the worst WILL end eventually, but what I know is right and what I want are usually at odds, and now the sentiment is taking over a huge milestone, and threatening to rewrite a chapter in my life I thought was over.

Sigh, I just needed to talk about it, with someone listening that doesn't know me or know who I am, someone who maybe understands what I'm going through. My boyfriend is as supportive as he knows how to be, but telling him the things that are going through my mind are likely to start a riot, and earn myself a lecture from someone who's never battled an addiction. Throw in a few threats about my living situation, comments about the lack of respect I have for my body, and I'm not entirely sure I'll make it another day without smoking.

It's rough. Even with a PV, which has made quitting SO SO easy. It's more than just an addiction to a chemical, it's a safety net, a comfort, a "plan B" when all else fails and the proverbial s*** hits the fan. I wish I didn't feel like I was missing out on something, but 3 months is hardly enough to break a habit of 8 years that I swear kept me sane and focused. I'm trying though, I'm working through this as best I know how, and I'll be damned if I can't take this one day at a time.
 

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It's probably a combination of the exorbitant amount of stress in my life -- I moved across the country 2.5 months ago, I still don't have a job, and I'm having straining issues in my relationship that are threatening its very existence -- and hitting the notorious 3 month mark, but being smoke free is losing its luster.

It's not really a craving, not like I used to have. It isn't an overwhelming urge like the ones that sent me to the gas station in the middle of the night for a pack of the death sticks... but it's there. I think about them far too often and even plan when and how I'm going to go get a pack and how I'll hide them and hide the fact that I'm smoking them. I'd be lying to say I'm not strongly considering it... every day.

It's difficult. I quit for someone else, not myself, and I think that plays a big part of it. I still want to stay quit, I don't want to smoke a pack of them per day like I used to, but I want the option to smoke a couple of them per day. It may be in spite of the person I quit for, anger for pushing me away, but that's a different story.

I wish I had the same desire to never pick one up, the one that I held on to tight for the first few months. But the smell of someone smoking .. it smells good, and I breathe deep whenever I walk by a smoker. Stale smoke is still really gross to me, but a burning cigarette makes me antsy and jealous. And the thought of smoking a couple doesn't make me feel bad, doesn't make me feel like I'm losing progress. I don't want to stop vaping, but damn, I'm stressed and want to smoke and that is stressing me out -- a vicious circle I can't break right now.

I've cut my nicotine way down - I started at 18mg, worked down to 12, and have been at 6mg for probably a month now. I don't think it's the lessening nicotine that's causing the cravings, as it never was an issue from the start.. but I have 12mg and 18mg tucked away anyway. I doubt that'll help me at this point, I'm convinced it's entirely psychological... I'm either going to break down and smoke them, or continue this battle until my desires disappear again.

I wish I thought I would be receptive to support from my family and friends, but that this point I don't know that it would help me. I know I'm doing a good job, I know it's a tough thing to overcome, and I know that I just need to stick with it, because the worst WILL end eventually, but what I know is right and what I want are usually at odds, and now the sentiment is taking over a huge milestone, and threatening to rewrite a chapter in my life I thought was over.

Sigh, I just needed to talk about it, with someone listening that doesn't know me or know who I am, someone who maybe understands what I'm going through. My boyfriend is as supportive as he knows how to be, but telling him the things that are going through my mind are likely to start a riot, and earn myself a lecture from someone who's never battled an addiction. Throw in a few threats about my living situation, comments about the lack of respect I have for my body, and I'm not entirely sure I'll make it another day without smoking.

It's rough. Even with a PV, which has made quitting SO SO easy. It's more than just an addiction to a chemical, it's a safety net, a comfort, a "plan B" when all else fails and the proverbial s*** hits the fan. I wish I didn't feel like I was missing out on something, but 3 months is hardly enough to break a habit of 8 years that I swear kept me sane and focused. I'm trying though, I'm working through this as best I know how, and I'll be damned if I can't take this one day at a time.

Increase the nicotine level and try not to take all of this so seriously.
 

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It just sounds like you are subconsciously looking for something that feels "safe" and takes you back to a time that was better. Lowering your nic levels while having thoughts of going back to cigarettes sounds like self-sabotage.

I realize my bedside manner is horrible. This is a "just the facts ma'am" type approach. I like to stare down such situations and overcome them once and for all as opposed to "glossing it over" to feel better.

All that being said, this sounds like a very rough time and I genuinely wish you all the best. One step at a time... you'll make it through! :)

EDIT: Remind yourself that you need things working FOR you now, NOT AGAINST you like cigarettes do. We are all ex-smokers here and truly know how damaging cigarettes are.
 
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Adeline,
Sounds like the crap is really pouring in on ya'! I surmise that the REAL reason you are having trouble with all this is, as others have so astutely noted, you didn't quit for the right reasons. There are tons of mental and emotional factors involved in that very thing.

I'd say don't hide anything...if boyfriend doesn't get over it...you will!! There's no reason to have to hide things from the people who are supposed to be closest to you. If they don't like it...too dang bad. You're a pretty lady, and you're still young. No reason to put up with having to hide things and pretend you're someone you are not to keep some one in your life.
 
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