The cloud chasing fad
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I use a REO so dripping is a non-issue. I can't say for sure but it might be that your experience with drippers is more about where you put the coil in relation to the air hole. I had to practice for quite a while to get my coils to where they did not perform as you describe. Once I got the coil in the right place, relative to the air hole the vape was NOT like that at all. Now I pretty much get it right every time so it's relatively easy.
This just goes to show how different people are though. Myself, I started with a Kayfun before moving exclusively to the REO/RM2. That thing drove me freakin crazy, not because I can't build a good coil for it. I can. It was the wicking problems. And the filling just made me want to scream because I am apparently too dimwitted to figure out how to fill that thing without having liquid pour out or having it take 20 minutes to fill. It was really infuriating for me.
Already said this before you typed your post but I use a REO so...
But yes, when I was dripping the regular way it was more of a hassle.
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I'm a cloud chaser so that means I'm not doing it as an alternative to smoking? I don't use it to get my nic fix? Oh, please.
Using more power and finding ways to get more clouds of vape is actually a way to stay away from cigarettes. After awhile, the small amount of vapor started to seem like I was inhaling air and the urge to grab a pack of cigarettes was extremely tempting.
So, I built a hotter, thicker, more flavorful vape. The clouds of vapor don't only make for eye candy... It actually goes into my lungs and satisfies my cravings.
Laugh at me all you want, I'm still off cigarettes (been going completely cig-free for a year and 2-3 months) and am proud to vape 22 Guage and lower wire at 0.2 Ohms or lower.
See you at the cloud comp (or not).
Using more power and finding ways to get more clouds of vape is actually a way to stay away from cigarettes. After awhile, the small amount of vapor started to seem like I was inhaling air and the urge to grab a pack of cigarettes was extremely tempting.
So, I built a hotter, thicker, more flavorful vape. The clouds of vapor don't only make for eye candy... It actually goes into my lungs and satisfies my cravings.
Laugh at me all you want, I'm still off cigarettes (been going completely cig-free for a year and 2-3 months) and am proud to vape 22 Guage and lower wire at 0.2 Ohms or lower.
See you at the cloud comp (or not).
I'm with Revelene. I'm not a cloud chaser but I do enjoy blowing thick clouds of vape out of my mouth. It's become a personal art form to me now, and serves as a great distraction from thinking about cigarettes. Between the relaxing ritual of making coils, tasting great flavours and chuffing big clouds, I have multiple things to enjoy more than a cigarette
It's all very, very subjective, though. I started off with pts and evods, and really enjoyed that. Then I tried a mech+rda, and enjoyed it more. I'm not making a statement about which is better, but my own preference.
1. I don't care about the size of my clouds, either. My sweet spot is around .6-.7 resistance, simply because I like the hit, and I like the taste.
2. I got flavor out of the PTs. I just prefer the taste I get from a dripper.
3. tbh, I go through less liquid now than I did with the pts. Dunno why,but I've come down to 3-4 mls a day.
4. I like coil talk, as I like to fiddle. For me, building a coil is easier than dry burning the PT, and the coil (for me) lasts longer. It's also more practical than constantly ordering coils, and cheaper, too...but, as always, this is subjective!
5. I didn't know that coil building was youthful! I'm middle aged. Most teens I see have evods and egos
They think I'm weird. 6. You don't have to. I just enjoy this particular thing. No one else has to. Building a coil is not better than buying a coil.
It's just a personal thing.
I don't see why others' cloud chasing upsets you this much, to be honest. If that's their hobby, and they aren't hurting anyone, I'm not going to judge them. They should do as they please and enjoy themselves
whatever that means to them. What interests you may not interest them, and that's okay.
As far as vaping starting out as an alternative to smoking, I see no issue with people (even non-smokers) picking it up as a hobby. There are certainly other hobbies with a great deal more risk than vaping. If it's what gets them excited, that's great. It only means we have a bigger community, which equals more consumers, which equals more and better products being manufactured for all of us.
Regarding the vape meetups, every hobby has people who meet up. Do they need to? No, but they like talking about it with other people who are interested. Nothing wrong with that. Again, it only helps show that they are interested in something, and manufacturers look at that as a business opportunity. That benefits all of us.
TL;DR - People should do whatever makes them happy, and others shouldn't be so judgmental about it. We are all on the same side here.
As far as vaping starting out as an alternative to smoking, I see no issue with people (even non-smokers) picking it up as a hobby. There are certainly other hobbies with a great deal more risk than vaping. If it's what gets them excited, that's great. It only means we have a bigger community, which equals more consumers, which equals more and better products being manufactured for all of us.
Regarding the vape meetups, every hobby has people who meet up. Do they need to? No, but they like talking about it with other people who are interested. Nothing wrong with that. Again, it only helps show that they are interested in something, and manufacturers look at that as a business opportunity. That benefits all of us.
TL;DR - People should do whatever makes them happy, and others shouldn't be so judgmental about it. We are all on the same side here.
Yeah I never knew the cloud chasing culture existed for some time. I vaped for a while before finding this great forum which exposes one to different aspects of the vaping world. I got the majority of my stuff online, and for a long time the the only B&M encounter was my initial visit for my first ecig purchase. The few coworkers I knew that vaped were using ego batteries, nothing fancy and kinda tried to stealth vape really. 100% in it to quit smoking.
Then one day I ran into a fellow technician from another department out in the field. We were talking next to our trucks when he grabbed his mod and vaped away.
ME: Ah, cool your into that too. yeah, Ive been doing that for a while now, It works. havent smoked cigarettes in x months.
HIM: Oh I never smoked
I wasnt sure what to say. this was my first encounter with someone who did the ecig/vape thing but didnt use to smoke. I honestly didnt get it one bit, but whatever, he was a younger guy, trendy, or whatever youd call it. I thought maybe he stumbled across a great flavor ejuice that he just really liked so he vapes it.
But not long after that I started being a lurker on this forum, and browsing reviews for products I quickly realized vaping is not just for smokers. cool, whatever.
Then probably 3 or 4 months ago I swung by a B&M id never been to before to grab some juice on the way home from work. There were these, what I normally would have assumed to be teenagers, but I guess they had to be at least 18 being in an ecig shop. Now these guys were testing their builds and building their coils at a coil building station set up at a table, and then I guess taking turns cloud chasing and comparing who had the best clouds. lol They were extremely loud, hooting and hollering and acting overly excited over every hit for being in a place of business even with it being an ecig store.
And then it it hit me. A lot of this anti vaping overreaction, and just general negativity towards ecigs/vaping yeah, I can see how non vapers wouldnt like that, and even view it as something other then a means to quitting smoking.
Then one day I ran into a fellow technician from another department out in the field. We were talking next to our trucks when he grabbed his mod and vaped away.
ME: Ah, cool your into that too. yeah, Ive been doing that for a while now, It works. havent smoked cigarettes in x months.
HIM: Oh I never smoked
I wasnt sure what to say. this was my first encounter with someone who did the ecig/vape thing but didnt use to smoke. I honestly didnt get it one bit, but whatever, he was a younger guy, trendy, or whatever youd call it. I thought maybe he stumbled across a great flavor ejuice that he just really liked so he vapes it.
But not long after that I started being a lurker on this forum, and browsing reviews for products I quickly realized vaping is not just for smokers. cool, whatever.
Then probably 3 or 4 months ago I swung by a B&M id never been to before to grab some juice on the way home from work. There were these, what I normally would have assumed to be teenagers, but I guess they had to be at least 18 being in an ecig shop. Now these guys were testing their builds and building their coils at a coil building station set up at a table, and then I guess taking turns cloud chasing and comparing who had the best clouds. lol They were extremely loud, hooting and hollering and acting overly excited over every hit for being in a place of business even with it being an ecig store.
And then it it hit me. A lot of this anti vaping overreaction, and just general negativity towards ecigs/vaping yeah, I can see how non vapers wouldnt like that, and even view it as something other then a means to quitting smoking.
I wonder how much PG and VG the lungs can take over time. There are government standards for limiting exposure time to theatrical fog on stage and movie sets to prevent excessive irritation of the lungs from inhalation.
I like a good amount of vapor, but I'm trying to make myself limit how much I inhale by inhaling just shallow enough to be able to exhale through the nose. 9-10 watts on a Kayfun will create medium-large clouds of tasty vapor and I like that. It's the long term effect of vaping many milliliters a day that makes me want to limit how much goes into my lungs. Since I've become a Kayfunner I'm aware of about a 50% increase in juice consumption. There was a time (Protank 2) that I could vape 4-5ml a day. I'm finding myself filling my 4.5ml Kayfun more than once a day with the advanced tanks.
I like a good amount of vapor, but I'm trying to make myself limit how much I inhale by inhaling just shallow enough to be able to exhale through the nose. 9-10 watts on a Kayfun will create medium-large clouds of tasty vapor and I like that. It's the long term effect of vaping many milliliters a day that makes me want to limit how much goes into my lungs. Since I've become a Kayfunner I'm aware of about a 50% increase in juice consumption. There was a time (Protank 2) that I could vape 4-5ml a day. I'm finding myself filling my 4.5ml Kayfun more than once a day with the advanced tanks.
You guys sound like my old raver friends. "I remember when dance music was good. I remember when the parties meant something. Blah blah blah."
Just because I can't dance to dubstep doesn't mean it sucks. Doesn't mean the kids these days are ......ed. It just means I like good ol' house music and disco, so leave it at that...
If you guys are upset about the state of vaping now, just wait 5 years when everyone is doing it...
Just because I can't dance to dubstep doesn't mean it sucks. Doesn't mean the kids these days are ......ed. It just means I like good ol' house music and disco, so leave it at that...
If you guys are upset about the state of vaping now, just wait 5 years when everyone is doing it...
Some fog machines use glycerin, but most use mineral oil. I think we'd see this happening to vape shop owners who sit in dense vapour all day, every day...and they seem fine to me.
Theatrical smoke and fog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I've noticed when I'm near cloud chasers, it causes a reaction, similar to my sensitivity to high amounts of VG. So, I have stopped going to vapemeets, as it seems every one involves a cloud competition. I'm assuming the novelty will wear off eventually.
Nice thread...and I agree with you 100%. I personally do not give a sh** about massive clouds. I vape mainly for the nicotine.
I was in one of the local B&M shops last week, speaking to the owner about a new high tech sterile e-liquid lab that's about to open in my town soon when 3 goons came into the shop. Rich mamas boy looking goon surrounded by 2 boring as hell looking female goons wanting to buy a new mech mod. Goon was dripping and using gplat wires. The guy working behind the counter asked the goon what nic level he was vaping and the goon said "Zero". Then he proceeded to say " I have never smoked real cigarettes before" The guy working the vape shop asked "So why did you start vaping?" Then the goon said "because it's cool." This gimp/goon was at least 25 yrs old. Everyone else in the shop just looked at each other like "please get this ...... out of here".
I was in one of the local B&M shops last week, speaking to the owner about a new high tech sterile e-liquid lab that's about to open in my town soon when 3 goons came into the shop. Rich mamas boy looking goon surrounded by 2 boring as hell looking female goons wanting to buy a new mech mod. Goon was dripping and using gplat wires. The guy working behind the counter asked the goon what nic level he was vaping and the goon said "Zero". Then he proceeded to say " I have never smoked real cigarettes before" The guy working the vape shop asked "So why did you start vaping?" Then the goon said "because it's cool." This gimp/goon was at least 25 yrs old. Everyone else in the shop just looked at each other like "please get this ...... out of here".
I have this problem too. I went to a meet 1 time & found that I couldn't really breathe there which is kinda sad because I was really excited about getting to hang out with other vapers. I had to leave though because I just couldn't take it. Since then I've noticed that when I go to my regular vape shop, if they've been making big clouds in their store & I walk in I find it hard to breathe too. I vape high pg liquid so I guess I have really become sensitive to the VG more than I thought. In my own liquid the amount I use doesn't bother me but when there's a lot of it in the air it really does.
This point has been made before and IMO it's correct. Vaping can be banned where smoking is banned, but unless laws are passed that make zero nic vaping or cloud chasing illegal, there is no way to control it. Mods and attys are easy to make, batteries, cotton, Kanthal and glycerin will always be available.
Yea that's true. My first homemade mod was made with copper pipe, copper end caps, a sex bolt, a spring, and an RCA connector. My first homemade atomizer was made with only an RCA adapter and some kanthal. None of those things are bannable.
Yup, not to mention everyone really likes working with sex bolts
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