The Copper Creek Chit-Chat Thread
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Found this is the Announcements forum....
As part of our programme to improve pageload speed we decided to try all avenues even if in theory there should be no benefit. I completely agree that splitting long threads, in theory, has no possible benefit. This is obvious when you know how it all works. However theory does not always transfer into practice and therefore I am always open to ideas that in theory cannot work - we will still try them. It's just possible that for some reason there might be an effect - even if it all depends, in the end, on a user's PC.
We normally try anything risky on a test server but sometimes for one reason or another we use it live. It might also be a good idea to see if it actually works for anyone before we decide to see if it gets left on. You have to test it live to find that out. Already we have numerous reports that it has magically speeded-up pageload times on long threads - so there you go!
Before the thread splitter goes back on, many of its settings probably need changing. For example the 'Guest' name is not satisfactory and it needs an explanation. I also don't like the way the original post gets to be the first post again in each part - the second post is good enough to be the new second-part starter (with a little adjustment).
Well I have a problem with business threads like
this one starting over every 5000 posts....we'll be
closing and opening threads all the time.....meanwhile
there will a loss of "history" ....
this one starting over every 5000 posts....we'll be
closing and opening threads all the time.....meanwhile
there will a loss of "history" ....
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Ditto. 
oops, Good Morning!
edit, and a heads up to suppliers would have been really nice.
coffee..... tossed and turned, upset over forum. grrrrr
oops, Good Morning!
edit, and a heads up to suppliers would have been really nice.
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There are a few things I saw that they were talking about working on. One, is the fact that larger threads may not be the root problem for slow load times. I dont know how far Sallie's knowledge reaches into the world of vBulletin, and Im only regurgitating this... If you look at any thread, you only see a few pages. Thats because the server only needs to query just those half a dozen pages. When you open a thread, you arent loading the entire (in our case) 5000+ pages, just ten.Ditto.
coffee..... tossed and turned, upset over forum. grrrrr
oops, Good Morning!
edit, and a heads up to suppliers would have been really nice.
There isnt going to be a loss of history. At least in theory. Each new thread will link back to the old, and the old will link back to the new, and instead of being a thread started by "guest", it will be reposted as the original poster.
There was no heads up to vendors because this release wasnt suppossed to go live yet. They are claiming they dont know who or what loaded the patch/fix, but it wasnt something they were trying to do just yet.
There was also someone who posted their forum links (not ECF) on a thread that had been opened for 10 years with no problems. Admins said they wanted to get in touch with that forums admins to see if they could get some help on the coding.
The idea of removing the social buttons has also been brought up. Most people (myself included) didnt start experiencing any lag until the facebook and twitter buttons were put up.
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morning Fv.....I guess playing "live" with people's
livelihood is ok as long as a few complainers get
what they want...
why do we need the social buttons?????...ecf has always had long threads
without slowing down...the problems came with the STUPID buttons...
livelihood is ok as long as a few complainers get
what they want...
why do we need the social buttons?????...ecf has always had long threads
without slowing down...the problems came with the STUPID buttons...
Thanks James! Complete agreement here about the social buttons. That's when I noticed a serious slow down, when those were added. I do hope they reconsider the thread splitting though.
Posted at the same time VV. Morning!
Posted at the same time VV. Morning!
only if the threads are kept though...that means we would be on our 11th
thread...thats a lot of threads clogging up the forum plus confusing as heck...
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I know they are trying to make improvements, but this I do not like one bit. That's too many closed threads....
As a registered supplier, I would recommend sending your concern and suggestions to an admin. I dont know if it would help any, but it wouldnt hurt, and your message would carry more weight than a user's would.
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