The Dad Experiment: Finding the Perfect Cig-a-Like

[owl_in_flight]

Thank you for sharing. I hope the V2 works out. Judging by his acceptance of e-cigs I would say your money is already very well spent. Even if it turns out that there is no perfect cigalike out there it sounds like he may be easily convinced to use a PV, if even with a bit of arm twisting

I don't have much experience with cigalikes aside from my failed attempt to switch to njoy a few years ago. I will say though, I am tempted to try the joyetech eRoll. It just looks like good hardware, but may be another example of good marketing.

If/when you reach the end of your rope just get him a provari mini and tell him it'll have to hold him over while you do more searching, lol. I'd bet it wouldn't be long before he tells you the search is over If he hates it you'll likely be able to sell it for nearly what they cost new.

Yes, I've heard quite a few people mention the eRoll, so I will have to take a better look at it if V2 doesn't work out. I think I did try to purchase it at some point, but I couldn't figure out the website I was on... I think it was just informational rather than a site to order from. Anyway, I'll figure it out!

I love your idea of getting the ProVari mini to "hold him over!" LOL He is up there in years, though, and I worry about him having to fiddle around with refilling things and trying to work with small parts. It's a great idea, though. Who knows, maybe he'd love it.

 

[owl_in_flight]

Hang in there. If he has already showed interest, he will come around to something bigger and better. A lot of ejuices sellers will add extra shots of flavor if you can get him to fill cartos, clearos, or attys. Peaking his interest was a huge step. Look up some videos on you tube and show them to him. Good luck and keep up the good work.

I think filling cartos and stuff like that is a little advanced right now for both my dad and I, lol. But I do think we will get there if the cig-a-likes don't work out. I am not going to give up on getting my dad over to vaping fulltime because I wholeheartedly feel it is better for his health than smoking analogs. I don't smoke, btw. I am just obsessed with vaping on my dad's behalf. I've actually gotten so wrapped up in it that I spend time at lunch, perusing sites for new stuff to buy for him. It feels almost as good as shopping for shoes, somehow. LOL!

 

[owl_in_flight]

You should pick up a ego style device along with the cig a like.Maybe after comparing the two he will come around to liking it better Just a thought .

I did look into eGo devices already and I just feel that they are little too much for him right now. I do hope to get him there at some point, because clearly these devices have far superior battery life, better vapor production and they seem cheaper in the long run. But right now, I'm stuck in cig-a-like world. It's been fun, though. They are like new toys. When the packages arrive, it feels like Christmas!

 

[owl_in_flight]

I'm in the same boat with my dad...I'm planning on getting him a Vapor Zeus (cigar-like), grimmgreen gave it a review a few weeks ago.

Hmmm... never heard of it. I'll have to check it out! Thanks!

 

[owl_in_flight]

Hi Owl! It's cool that you are helping your Dad break his smoking habit. I can think of nothing else that you could do that would have a more significant impact on his life; specifically his health.

While I do understand the initial draw and appeal of the cig-alike, honestly I think your best bet in the long run would be to somehow convince your Dad that the appearance doesn't matter and in fact, relegates him to inferior equipment. I understand that V2 is one of the better cig-alike products but there are far better options available in terms of equipment and they are probably less expensive as well. Much longer battery life, better performance, a huge amount of accessories available for it, etc. The only thing that can be said for the cig-alike is that it sorta looks like the real thing but even that is a stretch.

Yes, it's sad that our government does not share our enthusiasm for e-cigs; either that or they just want to get their piece of the pie ... perhaps a little of both. I know for myself, it was the only way that I was able to quit and I had tried everything out there over the years to no avail. You should consider joining CASAA. They are leading the fight to protect our right to vape and it's free to join. Here's a link:

CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association

Did you see that National Tobacco and V2 recently entered into a partnership agreement? This is probably NOT good news for vapers ...

In any case, I wish you well and commend your for efforts on behalf of your father!!

Vape On!

Thanks for the info! I'll definitely check it out!

 

[owl_in_flight]

Another thought eGo 650mAh w/ CE4 Clearomizer Blister Pack Starter Kit - MyFreedomSmokes.com
and a couple of bottles of juice.

This thing is just a bit bigger than a cigalike. And buying a quality juice will give him the good flavor he loves. Also it is a mid step to a larger mod. ok ands its cheap.

Edit: In fact grab 2 kits. Still in the $30 buck range and he will have 2 batteries and 2 clearos. So one bat can charge while the other is used.

Hmmmm.... Never heard of this one, either. I'll be reading all about it at lunch tomorrow, I'm sure. Thanks very much!

 

[owl_in_flight]

eRoll. Awesome PCC, great cig-a-like form factor especially in white, super easy to use and very durable. I got two sets in January. Still on my first batt, second kit isn't even opened. My egos and mods have been gathering dust ever since. Has its own sub forum here now, check it out.

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Thanks very much. Many people have suggested the eRoll, so it must be good.

 

[owl_in_flight]

The cig alike is hard one to crack i tried 808's back few years ago n gave up on em n have known people that have tried many cig types now my buddy did talk his dad into cigar style n he likes it even ended up w a epipe might not be what you're looking for but heres the one E Cigar from BOGE is rechargeable, refillable and is realistic!

You're so right about the cig-a-like being a hard one to crack. The size and shape are so ingrained in his mind that he doesn't seem to want to even consider other types. At least for now. We'll see how it goes.

 

[owl_in_flight]

Forgot to mention that the eRoll is an automatic, so for converting from analogs it's super natural feeling. No button to push, and since it's designed to work with the tank and atty, no concerns about juice leaking and killing the batt like with most autos. Can't say enough good about this ecig system. Literally, I haven't even CONSIDERED picking up my bigger batteries, cartos, tanks, etc. since I got it. Lol in the last two and a half years I've never stayed on one device more than a month or two before looking for something better till I got this.

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Oh, good to know, thanks. The automatic part is important. My dad has commented more than once that he does NOT want to have to press a BUTTON, by God. Thanks very much for the info.

 

[owl_in_flight]

I tell friends to look at it like this if they want to be successful in quitting, And any relatives you purchase for should also look at it like this: Changing from analog to ecigs is a lot like going from soda to diet soda; at first diet soda just doesn't cut it, but after a couple weeks, you will never go back to syrupy sodas again. It is not the same experience, and it does take a little getting used to, but once you are used to it, you will not go back to analog. I tried ecigs a couple years ago, and it just wasn't there for me. Once I was determined to give it a real try, I easily got used to the differences, and have had no desire to go back to analog.
So when buying for someone, be realistic with them, and use the diet soda analogy. Here's to success helping friends and family members. It IS worth it!

Thanks for the encouraging words! Luckily, my dad is having fun with all of the new gadgets. He loves vaping, he just needs hardware that he can depend on because he's a heavy smoker and needs to be sure he won't be left stranded. It seriously gives him stress, worrying about the battery life and such. I really just want to solve that problem for him so he can enjoy vaping and go on with daily life as usual. I won't give up until I find his match!

 

[owl_in_flight]

owl_in_flight,
Have you actually asked your dad if he's open to something a little larger?

Yes, I've had conversations with him many times. What I find is that he is afraid of change, but when he is presented with something new, he loves to explore and experiment. I am taking small baby steps for now. The Dad Experiment has only been in motion since the last part of February. With this last purchase at V2, I also got him one of the larger 78mm batteries, which is longer, fatter and heavier than anything he's had before. He notes the size, but I see him smoking it all the time. So I think that eventually I will be able to get him into the more technologically advanced e-cigs. I think we'll get him there some day, lol.

 

[Jimmy_Noname]

You've inspired me. I only recently started vaping myself, but I would also like to try having my parents make the switch also. I was thinking of having them try the Njoy King, as that's the closest thing I've tried to analogs (in look, feel, and taste), just as an introductory. Although it's $8 per disposable, I think it would be perfect as it's easily accessible at most 711s. My only problem is that I can't supervise them as I'm on the west coast and they're in Florida

 

[owl_in_flight]

Do whatever works for him! It is well worth it.

I smoked for the better part of 60 years, and found the transition to e-cigs seamless (so insert the "if I can do it" phrase here)

I started out with an eGo, but if the flavors right the kind of device won't matter all that much.

60 years!! Well, sir, that is very encouraging to hear! Thank you very much for that. My dad was a senior mechanical assembler for most of his life, so he likes all of the gizmos. It just comes down to a battery that will last, combined with good flavor and preserving the traditional smoking experience for him. And the experiment continues...

 

[owl_in_flight]

I'd lure him in with something like the white cloud disposable (i've bought the c3 system and a handful of the disposables and I've got one as a "backup" in my laptop bag right now) the flavors are mild but good and they should be back onsale soon 10 for $30.
And buy him an ego with a clearo or two and some juice and say "use this at home when sitting infront of the tv or whatever"

betcha he'll be using the bigger battery more and more if you find the right juice!
the urge to hold the cig goes away pretty quick and it feels ODD after awhile

Ha ha! I like the way you think. Several people have suggested the same strategy, and I think it just may work, lol.

 

[owl_in_flight]

You got him to try it and like it. THAT is the hard part. Convincing him to get a larger device will come with time. My dad was also a 40+ year smokerwith many attempts and fails under his belt. For his it was, and still is, the flavor (he smoked peach flavored cigars, and still uses the same juice he started on, peach cigar) that is important as we have worked out all other "kinks." It did take awhile for him to get comfortable with his Ego but thus far (over a year later) he hasnt touched an analog. It is stressful, as I personally know, how important it becomes for a loved one to stop smoking especially when personally you've had tremendous success quitting with vaping. To this day my mom still will not bother with vaping, maybe a cig-a-like is the answer.... Never considered as I've always felt "if its functional who cares what it looks like" even to the point of carrying a mech around as my all day device simply because its functional and reliable. (and heavy XD)

Yes, it's interesting to me, because I really thought my dad would have the same attitude of "if its functional who cares what it looks like," but as it turned out, he really needed for everything to look and feel the same as an analog. I think that slowly he is letting go of that, but I can't say that I blame him because he's been doing the same thing over and over for 40+ years and a person just gets comfortable after that amount of time. I can see how changing the routine would be disconcerting.

The flavor thing was another surprise to me. My dad protested so loudly at first that flavors like cherry and chocolate were just plain silly. But in the end, he prefers them now and only smokes tobacco flavors if he has nothing else, lol. Go figure.

I think you, and so many others who have also said it, are right. Moving up to a larger, better device will come with time. I'm not going to rush him, though. I want him to progress at his own pace. I want him to have fun with it, you know?

 

[owl_in_flight]

I bought the v-2 cigs also after the other brands I had all failed on me. I tried many brands and they all had their flaws. The v-2 seemed to be the best but also started to bother me because the battery didn't seem to last long and the cartridges didn't lay long either so it got expensive. I then found star-fire cigs and they seemed to be the cheapest, best made and most like an analog. The cartridges lasted longer than the v-2, were less expensive, and came with a charging case. If the v-2's work though than all the better. But if he finds the same problems, star-fire cigs might be a great try. Good luck!

I've never heard of star-fire, so here's another one for me to research. Thanks much for the info!

 

[owl_in_flight]

You've inspired me. I only recently started vaping myself, but I would also like to try having my parents make the switch also. I was thinking of having them try the Njoy King, as that's the closest thing I've tried to analogs (in look, feel, and taste), just as an introductory. Although it's $8 per disposable, I think it would be perfect as it's easily accessible at most 711s. My only problem is that I can't supervise them as I'm on the west coast and they're in Florida

You know, Jimmy_Noname, this process would probably have been a heck of a lot easier for me if I were actually a smoker, lol. You're lucky in that you can try everything out first-hand and then recommend what you know to be good stuff. As for me, I have to depend on opinions of others, reading the web, and just taking the plunge and buying something for my dad to try out. That's why I wish I would have found this forum sooner, like in January, before I started buying up everything I saw, lol.

Then again, I can only go up from Blu and the others I've purchased for him, so maybe it's a good thing. It's like taking baby steps. So who knows, maybe that's just how it was meant to happen. In any case, I have had fun right along side my dad, and I've enjoyed seeing him experimenting and trying new things.

I can tell you, though, that my dad told me he bought a disposable Njoy last year and he didn't like it. In fact, it turned him off to vaping completely. He didn't like the flavor, number one. Number two, they were expensive. Number three, the battery didn't last long, because as I've said, he is a heavy smoker. A smoker like my dad really needs something rechargeable.

The only reason he tried vaping again was because I went ahead and just bought a starter kit without asking him, so he couldn't say no. (He felt compelled to use something that I spent my hard-earned money on, lol.)

Many people have commented that needing a cig-a-like really limits a person as far as quality and flavor. I really see now what they were talking about. But, I also understand my dad's preference for the look a feel of an analog. Old habits are hard to break.

 

[Euphonious Nonsense]

I did look into eGo devices already and I just feel that they are little too much for him right now. I do hope to get him there at some point, because clearly these devices have far superior battery life, better vapor production and they seem cheaper in the long run. But right now, I'm stuck in cig-a-like world. It's been fun, though. They are like new toys. When the packages arrive, it feels like Christmas!

My dad wasnt happy until I let him try my ego then he wanted one. Do you have any B&M shops nearby? Never hurts to visit a small family owned shop as they will probably make him feel more at home and may be able to talk him into trying things he wouldn't normally.


They make 0mg juice, you could always pick it up as a hobby just to make sure he is getting a well working/rounded product until he finds what works for him.

 

[-iD]

Check out the thread on the njoy king. It is not last years model. Vastly superior. Amazing, in fact. But at $8 ea for a disposable, priced too high to be affordable.

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[owl_in_flight]

My dad wasnt happy until I let him try my ego then he wanted one. Do you have any B&M shops nearby? Never hurts to visit a small family owned shop as they will probably make him feel more at home and may be able to talk him into trying things he wouldn't normally.


They make 0mg juice, you could always pick it up as a hobby just to make sure he is getting a well working/rounded product until he finds what works for him.

That is genius! I didn't even think of taking him to a smoke shop...

As for smoking 0mg, I can't tell you how many times I've thought of doing that so I can play with my dad's toys! LOL