The dangers of my mixtures, please help!

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Hoosier is right again... Im allregic to vodka. That stuff for TH would mess me up somethin fierce.

I will second orachel's recommendations. Cartos will probably help. The idea of capsacin is one to look at. TPA sells a jalapeno flavoring that can be very intense. I have a 4ml sampler of it Im still afraid to try.

As far as VV devices... I will also second the vmax. I have the chrome vmax from CCV and I absolutely positively LOVE LOVE LOVE it. I cannot say enough good things about it. There is also a large and growing group in the forums in the VV mods section. The vmax tips and tricks thread has been fantastic. Anyone owning, or considering buying a vmax should read the whole thing.

You may want to try adding koolada also if you dont like menthol. Im not a menthol fan in general but I do like koolada alot especially with drink/fruit flavors.
 

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Thank you very much orachel for your tips. I truly do appreciate them!

Here's the thing with my devices. I was on the 6v Prodigy 3.1 for about a year and absolutely LOVED it! I love 6v, and I know for sure that's probably where my sweet spot is. The only bad thing about the device is that it got so worn and used that it eventually started firing on it's own in my pocket, even when it was locked (the bottom screw screwed in all the way). I tried everything to fix it, but it was out of the warranty range for PureSmoker and was pretty much stuck with it.

So, I decided I was tired of getting my legs burnt up all the time with it in my pocket. I decided to take the plunge and order the new LEGACY device from PureSmoker because I heard a TON of good reviews on it. Those reviews came from folks who had been on 6v and swore that the LEGACY gave them everything they had with a 6v device. On a sad side, but yet still necessary, note, my wife was recently laid off from her job so money is really tight with us right now. I didn't want to spend the money on a new device, in fact, I hated the idea of spending money on a new device. But, I figured I'd rather be without a hundred or so bucks then have to go to the hospital for 1st degree burns from the Prodigy I was using. So, I dumped $140 into the LEGACY kit, which came with the device, batteries, five tank cartomizers and a tank. I got it in the mail and realized that it just wasn't that strong at all.

So, I got on the Pure-Smokers forum and told the members there what was going on. I came to the general consensus that I probably need to add a Kick to the device to get better performance. So, I found a Kick for sale and purchased that, which put me out another $50 so now, I'm waiting on that to arrive in the mail. I'm not even going to be able to use the Kick immediately when I get it either because you have to purchase the extension tube from PureSmoker for the LEGACY device before the Kick will fit. So, I'll get the Kick, but then I'll have to purchase the extension tube for yet another $15 (+$5 for shipping). And that brings my total up to $205 for ONE device that I really shouldn't have purchased in the first place due to me and my wife's financial situation at the moment.

I would REALLY hate to have to purchase yet ANOTHER device to get the 6v or even close to the 6v. So, that's where I ask all of you... Is the Kick going to make that much of a difference when I get it? Do you all think the Kick will bring me closer to my sweet spot? I'm using IMR 18650 batteries, and plan to use the 18650 with the Kick when it comes in. Once I get the Kick and extension tube on the LEGACY, which cartomizer do you think would be good to use? I love dual coils because I always got a much stronger hit with those than single coils. But then again, if I can't use dual coils on a 3.7v device and get the performance that I'm looking for, then I don't know what the hell I'm gonna do.

Right now I'm using the LEGACY without a kick, and I'm using the 18650 batteries with a 1.5ohm dual coil clearomizer. It's giving me a tiny bit of performance, but absolutely nothing like I'm used to with the 6v with a dual coil 1.5ohm-2ohm cartomizer.

So anyway. What are all of your thoughts on the Kick being added into the equation? Should I forget it and try to send the LEGACY back to PureSmoker and get a refund and go for a different device, and try with all my power to get the Kick refunded and sent back to the provider? Or should I stick it out and use the LEGACY with the Kick and maybe look into a capsaicin TH or PGA TH?

Man, that post was long winded. Hope you understand it all and got a clear picture of exactly what it is that I'm dealing with over here lmao.
 

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just buy pure pharm grade Nic on the net and some flavoring and you should be fine:0)
I mix my DIY at around 10mg. only know one person that can handle 36mg. 60 OMG!
My advice to you if your looking to save money like I am stop buying unflavored ejuice from any company. Its so easy to mix unflavored yourself at what % you want. And you can play with the pg/vg mix.
First you need a free ejuice calculator app or find one online for free.
next you need a bottle of pg or vg with Nic as a base then a bottle of plane vg and pg.
Add some measuring glassware and you can mix unflavored 30ml bottle for under $3 vs what your now paying.
I use rtsvapes for my supply's not saying you should but its a good place to start to see how much you can save.

Message me here if you need help.

k mol
 

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Undead, 6V with a 1.5 Ohm cargo should draw 4 amps from the battery. That is well beyond the current cutoff of the Kick. It is also beyond the capacity of many of the Li-ion batteries on the market. (You're in the high drain zone there, so it will be a fairly special protected, or a good IMR, to get enough current out to run that setup. There is one other battery chemistry I know that will run that, but those are pretty pricey.)

Obviously you are a high power user and should only look at things that meet that criteria. If you're not familiar with Ohms Law and Power Law, you would be well served to learn. Power will be your friend as more power is more heat is more TH.

There are very few devices that can meet those power requirements.
 

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Undead, 6V with a 1.5 Ohm cargo should draw 4 amps from the battery. That is well beyond the current cutoff of the Kick. It is also beyond the capacity of many of the Li-ion batteries on the market. (You're in the high drain zone there, so it will be a fairly special protected, or a good IMR, to get enough current out to run that setup. There is one other battery chemistry I know that will run that, but those are pretty pricey.)

Obviously you are a high power user and should only look at things that meet that criteria. If you're not familiar with Ohms Law and Power Law, you would be well served to learn. Power will be your friend as more power is more heat is more TH.

There are very few devices that can meet those power requirements.
Hmm.. Something doesn't seem right there for some reason. Are you taking into account that they are dual coils, or does that matter? Maybe the carts are 2ohm. I'll have to have another look.
 

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just buy pure pharm grade Nic on the net and some flavoring and you should be fine:0)
I mix my DIY at around 10mg. only know one person that can handle 36mg. 60 OMG!
My advice to you if your looking to save money like I am stop buying unflavored ejuice from any company. Its so easy to mix unflavored yourself at what % you want. And you can play with the pg/vg mix.
First you need a free ejuice calculator app or find one online for free.
next you need a bottle of pg or vg with Nic as a base then a bottle of plane vg and pg.
Add some measuring glassware and you can mix unflavored 30ml bottle for under $3 vs what your now paying.
I use rtsvapes for my supply's not saying you should but its a good place to start to see how much you can save.

Message me here if you need help.

k mol

I'm already mixing my own juice. Although I've never heard of the RTSVapes. Their prices look pretty good. I might have to put an order in with them to see how good their products are.
 

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Hmm.. Something doesn't seem right there for some reason. Are you taking into account that they are dual coils, or does that matter? Maybe the carts are 2ohm. I'll have to have another look.

I=V/R=6/1.5=4 Amps

The power source, battery, doesn't care if you have diverted the current through 14 or 1 branch, current is current and it all has to come out of the same power source. (You can use the formula above to figure from the measured total resistance or add up the individual coils, it's still the same result.)

Even if it is 2 Ohms, you are still at 3 Amps. Most of the better protected Li-ion batteries on the market have a cutoff in the 2 to 2.5 Amp range.

Like I said, learning the basics of DC electricity would probably serve you well.
 

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I=V/R=6/1.5=4 Amps

The power source, battery, doesn't care if you have diverted the current through 14 or 1 branch, current is current and it all has to come out of the same power source. (You can use the formula above to figure from the measured total resistance or add up the individual coils, it's still the same result.)

Even if it is 2 Ohms, you are still at 3 Amps. Most of the better protected Li-ion batteries on the market have a cutoff in the 2 to 2.5 Amp range.

Like I said, learning the basics of DC electricity would probably serve you well.

Sorry pal, I didn't mean my response to come off as I was saying your formula was wrong. It just didn't seem right on my end as far as the equipment I was describing haha. Thanks for the tips. I definitely appreciate your response!
 

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A really inexpensive option (but not as much power as 6v) is the ego twist (up to 4.8v) with the 1.7ohm cartos (the single coil smoktechs from CCV). I don't have any experience with 6v to compare, but when I got this it was definitely an improvement over regular ego/riva batteries (similar to what you're using now). The twist is only $21 at Vaperite.
 

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This doesn't really seem to be about vaping. It seems to be about some mental issues like you describe as the "placebo effect". If this IS just about vaping, just measure your nic % and wean down slowly. But if it's about RL stress/hardships/depression or things that would have made you smoke more just as you now vape more you probably need to look into those issues and see if those things are causing an escalation in your nic % over time. Stress and depression really caused a massive upswing in my smoking. GL.
 

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Alright, I just made a brand new 10mL mixture and measured everything out. This is what I got:

8mL Nicotine (total brings it to 48mg)
1.5mL flavoring
0.5mL purified water

So it looks like I'm vaping at 48mg at the moment. Not quite 50mg, but definitely still high. Hopefully I can get some vodka tonight or tomorrow night and try and cut down the nicotine level a little and slowly ween myself down.
 

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This doesn't really seem to be about vaping. It seems to be about some mental issues like you describe as the "placebo effect". If this IS just about vaping, just measure your nic % and wean down slowly. But if it's about RL stress/hardships/depression or things that would have made you smoke more just as you now vape more you probably need to look into those issues and see if those things are causing an escalation in your nic % over time. Stress and depression really caused a massive upswing in my smoking. GL.

Honestly, I don't have any "harships" such as stress or depression or anything that would have caused my nicotine level to go higher. I think it all lies within my throat becoming "accustomed" over time to needing more TH.
 

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Stop spending money on mods... for your mod... return what you can and buy a vmax. It has a 5amp limit, and with efest 18350's can,handle absolutely anything you throw on top of it. CCV has it with efest batteries and free shipping. And yes, the efest outperformed even the aw imr high drains. See the vmax tips and tricks thread in the vv section for details.

Done and done. Seriously, it really is an excellent apv. Stop wasting money. This is one piece of the puzzle you need to have. The other is a notebook. Im glad to see you are measuring now. Next week drop down 2mg a week till you are down around 36mg and in a safer place vaping wise. Maybe I shouldnt be but I am concernex for your health and the effects of vaping that high of nic. I know you may feel fine but that doesnt mean its okay on your body. Keep that in mind.

Get a vmax. Pronto. Hoosier is right. Most LR coils wont vape at 6v as the amp limits on most mods are 2.5amps. Its only the last month or so Ive seen the newer mods with higher amp limits. Until now most people think they are vaping 5-6v on LR coils and the mod is really defaulting back to 3.7v and just not telling you. Letting you think you are at 6v and you really never were.

The vmax, the smok gripper, and the new yung june lavatube all have 4-5amp limits. The vmax being the highest at 5 amps.
 

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Undead, 6V with a 1.5 Ohm cargo should draw 4 amps from the battery. That is well beyond the current cutoff of the Kick. It is also beyond the capacity of many of the Li-ion batteries on the market. (You're in the high drain zone there, so it will be a fairly special protected, or a good IMR, to get enough current out to run that setup. There is one other battery chemistry I know that will run that, but those are pretty pricey.)

Obviously you are a high power user and should only look at things that meet that criteria. If you're not familiar with Ohms Law and Power Law, you would be well served to learn. Power will be your friend as more power is more heat is more TH.

There are very few devices that can meet those power requirements.
Its I=E/R hoosier ohms law not I=V/R
 

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Its I=E/R hoosier ohms law not I=V/R

Or PIE, P=IE for Hoosier's power law. Mix and match as your algebraic skills allow. (Nah, the real credit goes to a guy by the name of Kirchhoff as that is the real springboard understanding this stuff, but we try to keep that secret since Ohm is easier to pronounce.)
 

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For anyone that's curious, and just to put the information out there, today I reached a huge milestone and am finally down to 36mg nic mixtures. I've been going down by 2mg with each new 10mL bottle of nice juice I make, and have finally made it down to 36mg. I'm pretty excited! Here's to hoping I can continue going down further and get around the 30mg mark. That's the goal for right now anyway!
 
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