Um, no, don't remember any plastic bottle filled with water back in the 60's but do remember my mom telling me to drink water.
The Dehydration Myth
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Um, no, don't remember any plastic bottle filled with water back in the 60's but do remember my mom telling me to drink water.
and over here a pound is a measure of weight too
I think that originally our £ was literally worth a lb of silver; it's lost a little of its value over time.
The "liquid oz" or "FL OZ" is a measure of volume here too. It's used in water-like stuff since 8 oz = 1 cup. It is odd that we have to translate the oz (weight) to other volume measurements. So yeah. But it ends up being volume (8ths of a cup) for water-like stuff too, since most water-like stuff IS mostly water (soda, juice, milk, etc).
Wouldn't work with dry things like lead vs feathers. That's a true weight-only thing.
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Note that the nurse who ignored the 2000%+ rda of vitamin B2 and told me coffee doesn't count is also in the medical field. I asked my niece, a nutritionist an IBD question and got a fad diet answer. Mayo is jumping on the ANTZ ban-wagon including for Ulcerative Colitis in spite of medical science.
I always heard drink more to replace the fluids you're losing, the problem is drinking more caused more to be "lost". Add all the water you want but if the system to extract it isn't functioning properly it's going to make the symptom worse.
Everyone's medical situation is dependent on that person's situation, which is something medical science is forgetting in their quest to give us assembly line health care to maximize profits.
Curious thing about the Lo-So prep. It has the water drinking before the prep. After that first glass of water all the other glasses just made me pee. My body had all the hydration it could use for anything but a system flush. After taking the prep and following the instructions the other flush wasn't effective because all the water it had me drink before was gone. It didn't hydrate me to protect me from dehydration, although it did flush my kidneys and make them work harder than they need to.
The PEG prep had me pushing overhydration, I felt like I was dying and it wasn't because of the effects of the prep.
I'm sure these both worked great in clinical studies but my house isn't a clinic and I'm not a group of people.
Pat answers don't work as often as modern medicine wants to claim (not that they don't work "often" but they're not 100%).
There are some signals to look for. In normal situations (unlike my massive B2 dose) light colored urine means you're getting enough hydration. Skin that bounces back when pinched means you're getting enough hydration. And generally if you need hydration you are thirsty.
If anything I would say coating your mouth and throat with PG/VG would make one tend to be thirsty even if they were hydrated and cause them to drink more than their body desires.
My body works like it's supposed to and can extract water out of other liquids and even solid foods. I can even separate the water from the 4% alcohol that's in beer, use some of that water to flush my body of the alcohol and use the rest for hydration.
I can catch an animal every day. I think you are proving the old Indian word for bad hunter is vegetarian.
I hate to break it to your paleo diet fad but grains have always been part of our diet unless you think grass seeds were too fast for early man to catch too. Almost every dig where man has lived for any amount of time has grain grinding stones.
My brother-in-law had a 5mm stone. That was after breaking them up. It looked like a freight train.
More water = more pee = more flushing the PG and VG out of your system. (It's gotta go somewhere to exit. Helps liver/kidneys flush it out.)
Plus it's good to drink enough water everyday.
Plus it helps with dry throat.
So drink some water.
Drink a glass of PEG and it's not going to be flushing out in urine
You could eat enough fruit in a day. You could drink enough juice in a day. You could even drink enough soda in a day. Our bodies can separate the water unless there is some kind of dysfunction.
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Metabolizing vegetable glycerine and propylene glycol takes water just like anything else. However, I don't think there is anything exceptional about vaping that promotes dehydration.
And it's a liquid measure, too -- "fluid ounces" -- a cup has 8 of them, a pint, 16, a quart, 32, etc... a gallon has a whopping 128!
But it *can* be confusing even when you're used to it... my various measuring cups are a good example: my pyrex measuring cup, I'm pretty sure, is a liquid measure of 8 oz. But my metal cups, I'm pretty sure are for dry measure, like for baking. If I measure rice with the dry measure cup... then put in the water with the pyrex cup... it doesn't come out right! You have to use the same measuring cup for both the water and the rice, or there's either too little or too much water. That messes with me sometimes if I forget.
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And it's a liquid measure, too -- "fluid ounces" -- a cup has 8 of them, a pint, 16, a quart, 32, etc... a gallon has a whopping 128!
But it *can* be confusing even when you're used to it... my various measuring cups are a good example: my pyrex measuring cup, I'm pretty sure, is a liquid measure of 8 oz. But my metal cups, I'm pretty sure are for dry measure, like for baking. If I measure rice with the dry measure cup... then put in the water with the pyrex cup... it doesn't come out right! You have to use the same measuring cup for both the water and the rice, or there's either too little or too much water. That messes with me sometimes if I forget.
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The dry measure cup is the same as the liquid measure cup. Both are 8oz of volume. The difference is how you measure. With dry you fill to the top and scrape off. With liquid you look through the side because if you fill to the top you will spill some.
What throws people from other countries off is they use weights in their recipes, where for most of us in the US, even if we have a kitchen scale we don't use it to cook with.
You're so right; I think they use something like a "Bell curve" -- if you're outside that curve, then they think a) you're broken and so medical science must fix you, or b) you're obviously wrong, and if medical science took the measure then you'd fit in the curve, or c) you're so f'ing weird that they really have no clue, but lord love a duck if they'll admit it -- they'll just ignore you, call you an "anomaly".
That's true about those signals; the skin-pinch is how I know I'm on the edge of dehydration all the time -- but my urine is so light it could nearly pass for water -- because I drink tea all day, and I'm not sure who said it, but tea, with caffeine, DOES stimulate your kidneys and make you pee like mad -- even if you're already dehydrated, which means that it's "diuretic" -- it makes you lose water even if you can't afford to lose water. Drinking water is something I have to do, but don't really enjoy, because as someone pointed out, water actually makes my mouth/throat feel drier -- because I'm accustomed to the slicker feel that saliva has when you have sugar in your mouth -- water washes it away and makes me feel like I've just driven 100 miles with mouth wide open, hanging out the window like a dog. To quench my body's thirst, I have to drink water and powerade, but to make my mouth/throat not feel dry and thirsty, I have to drink something with a *small* amount of sugar in it -- too much sugar and it just compounds the problem.
I think you are proving the old Indian word for bad hunter is vegetarian.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!
I almost fell out of my chair.... Andria
LOL I used to pursue a career as a school psychologist, and shut that kind of thinking up on a regular basis because I liked the money. A good excuse to smoke. Nice to be free of both. The correct way of expressingYou're so right; I think they use something like a "Bell curve" -- if you're outside that curve, then they think a) you're broken and so medical science must fix you, or b) you're obviously wrong, and if medical science took the measure then you'd fit in the curve, or c) you're so f'ing weird that they really have no clue, but lord love a duck if they'll admit it -- they'll just ignore you, call you an "anomaly".
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would be "if you are way out in a tail of that curve".
IDK, I've been on a diet of Dr Pepper for over 40 yrs, I don't drink water, juice, or much of anything else.
I was raised on Artisan water, when I moved to the "city" I couldn't stand the taste of the water, so went to the soda.
I've never had a stone nor anything else health wise by doing that.
Since starting vaping, I now drink water with a little lemon and salt in it to kill the taste, cut back on the soda to about 16 oz a day.
ETA water in a little town called Sweetwater in TX, ain't.
I was raised on Artisan water, when I moved to the "city" I couldn't stand the taste of the water, so went to the soda.
I've never had a stone nor anything else health wise by doing that.
Since starting vaping, I now drink water with a little lemon and salt in it to kill the taste, cut back on the soda to about 16 oz a day.
ETA water in a little town called Sweetwater in TX, ain't.
Its been proven that by the time a human feels "thirsty" he/she is usually actually full-blown dehydrated.
You have lemon and the salt- where's the Quervo?
But seriously, water is life. However you get it into you, get it into you.
I'm such a water addict- I can't take a plane because I can't carry my water bottles with me. While my other favorite drink is tea- I grew up in Newfoundland where there is always a pot of tea boiling on the stove, I don't count it as water, I only count water as water. Left warm, it's totally gross- I freeze my bottles so there is always a bottle with ice in it in front of me, next to my tea. I have 8 bottles in rotation in the freezer in winter, more in the summer. I take one to bed with me because I wake up very dry. When I was in nursing school we had to keep track of what we drank and what our output was for 24 hours- my instructor couldn't believe how much water I drank a day, but what went in, also came out. I'm healthy for having smoked 38 years. Not wrinkly, and don't retain fluid either- so water is a very important part of my life. I love the taste of good water, and whenever we've moved I've done reconnaissance to find the closest spring, luckily there's always been one close. We have a good well and the water's fine, but I much prefer the water that comes from the spring I go to. And humping 5 or 6 5 gallon bottles is good exercise. I only started vaping last week and don't find myself dryer than normal, but with the amount I drink I wouldn't have expected to.
you might be surprised how hard it was to get meat on the table for your family in the ancient times. up until just after AD times, meat was for the upper middle class and the rich. Humans ate fish and bread. & the fish wasn't fish sticks full of fillers and preservatives. The bread wasn't separated from the whole grain and processed into low nutrient carbohydrate loafs. and our nomadic ancestors may have caught wild boars but they certainly didn't process them into little tubes full of fat, gelatin, hoof grounds, and wheat filler and call it a hot dog!
Don't forget electrolytes too......
But we get those from foods, usually. Excessive water could mess ya up (some have died, but they really had to work at it. That contest thing, for example.)
Guess there's always Gatorade.
I'm on the Dr. Pepper (or other low cost store brand knock off) + water regiment.
But we get those from foods, usually. Excessive water could mess ya up (some have died, but they really had to work at it. That contest thing, for example.)
Guess there's always Gatorade.
I'm on the Dr. Pepper (or other low cost store brand knock off) + water regiment.
I'm sure it's from your exaggeration of "full-blown" but that is wrong. If it wasn't wrong everyone would be in the ER getting IV's.
If it's true that by the time thirst happens a person is approaching dehydration that is a faulty design plan and we all deserve to die. However I also suspect that is an incorrect statement and the truth is more that people don't drink as soon as they're thirsty (notice how if you carry water with you, you drink more).
actually a real pound of silver has gone sky hi.... over here, a silver dime is now worth 1.14$
full blown??
mild dehydration 2-5% of body weight loss in fluids
moderate dehydration 6-10%
severe dehydration 11- 40%
so if you have a starting weight of 200 lbs... thats
10 lbs for mild 1.1 gallons
20 lbs for moderate 2.7 gallons
80 lbs for severe 7 gallons
When I was young, I had to go to the hospital for constipation a lot. Every time I went to the hospital for constipation, they told me I was dehydrated and they gave me an IV. As I grew into a teenager, I went to the hospital for everything from mind numbing stomach pain, to sprained ankles, popped ear drums, black eyes, public intoxication, you name it. Each and every time I went to the hospital, they specifically told me I was dehydrated, and they gave me an IV to get my counts back to "normal" I eventually started questioning why I was always dehydrated. They told me almost everyone that comes through the hospital doors is usually mildly dehydrated.
The way I understand what I've read: When you feel that almost unnoticeable feeling of a dry core... Thats when your dehydrated by 5% or so. By the time it reaches your throat, that is your body warning you that you're becoming more seriously dehydrated. If it reaches your mouth, you're beginning to be seriously dehydrated. Apparently "full blown" dehydration to you guys means crawling on the ground begging god for water. But I was talking about general dehydration.
The way I understand what I've read: When you feel that almost unnoticeable feeling of a dry core... Thats when your dehydrated by 5% or so. By the time it reaches your throat, that is your body warning you that you're becoming more seriously dehydrated. If it reaches your mouth, you're beginning to be seriously dehydrated. Apparently "full blown" dehydration to you guys means crawling on the ground begging god for water. But I was talking about general dehydration.
"Full blown" to me means "all the way". Headache, nausea, dizziness, weakness. You definitely know it.
If being thirsty meant serious dehydration we really need to be a dead life form. Our bodies don't know how to survive so without an iPhone app to tell us it's time to drink we would all be on the brink of death at any minute? We'd definitely need to be extinct.
I have more faith in my both than that. My cravings have kept my symptoms managed right down to taking up nicotine the same year I had my first GI tests.
You may be prone to dehydration, that's your hospital's cure all or it's their placebo to make people happy they did something. Considering they say everyone is dehydrated it sounds like it's a money maker selling IV fluids.
Personally, assuming you don't live in a desert, I would've been asking what condition you had that caused you to be chronically dehydrated all the time. All the visits you list and you never accidentally had enough liquid to drink the day of your accidental visit? Something is fishy there.
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