The Dehydration Myth

[Racehorse]

The 8 glasses of water thing started about the same time people started buying/selling drinking water. Makes you wonder?
Jim

That's strange because the earliest nutritional advice from yogis as well as Chinese Medicine and which are 3,000+ years old suggest 1/2 your body weight in ounces of water per day, and there are many texts that explain how tiredness, aching joints, dry skin, headaches, etc. are all because the body is not getting enough water.

So I doubt this is a conspiracy on the part of bottled water sellers.

but I don't drink 64oz per day.....I tend to drink when I am thirsty which apparently means I'm already dehydrated

 

[Ohms Lawbreaker]

"The 8 glasses of water thing started about the same time people started buying/selling drinking water."

And the whole selling bottled drinking water thing started about the same time as the deregulation of clean drinking water resources. Conspiracy? You bet your bottle on that one. But neither President Regan nor anyone else really foresaw making a buck from bottled water; President Regan sold out to the polluting factories instead.

 

[moosedog]

When I started vaping, I quickly found myself dehydrated from it. That is about the only side effect I noticed. I am a very heavy vaper, so I have to have a lot of liquids to prevent it.

 

[FourWinds]

I still think it's strange that you guys measure your liquids by weight rather than volume. I just drink when I'm thirsty by the way, as I'm way too addled to remember how much I've drunk and when that might of been.

"I'd like 473mg of beer please Mr Barman!"

 

[AndriaD]

As I said, I live right on the edge of dehydration all the time, and what it causes, apparently, is LEG CRAMPS!!!! The godawful screaming kind that bring you straight up out of a sound sleep cussing like a sailor. If I drink enough water, they're not quite as bad, but the only way I can vanquish them is to drink both lots of water, and at least one serving of Powerade a night -- because if I DON'T drink the powerade BEFORE bed, it's a sure bet that I'll be hopping and limping and cussing into the kitchen at 4am to get some!!!

Andria

 

[amoca]

I drink a great deal of water, always have. A huge amount. I dragged bottles of water around long before it was cool...We're in Canada and I'm a water snob- but for me that means taking my 5 gallon bottles to a nearby spring, filling them, and drinking a full five gallons every 3 days. All I drink is tea and water, and I drink a lot of both. I'm not diabetic. My husband can't understand why I dislike tap water, and I can't understand why he doesn't understand that water has a different taste, wherever you go. You like beer- but you like a certain brand of it- not just any gut rot beer. Same with water. I can tell if he goes to a different spring and fills up. The upside to drinking lots of water is- I'm 50 and have no wrinkles (or grey hair), despite having smoked since I was 12. My mother was a wrinkled prune when she was my age...so drink water folks, drink water!
On menopause- I was completely done by the time I was 44, haven't had a hotflash for 6 years till I stopped smoking last week, now I'm waking up soaked again. But it's winter so at least I can run out into the snow! : )

 

[AndriaD]

I still think it's strange that you guys measure your liquids by weight rather than volume.

We do? First I've heard of it. I measure liquids in ounces, cups, pints, quarts, and gallons. The way the rest of America does.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

I drink a great deal of water, always have. A huge amount. I dragged bottles of water around long before it was cool...We're in Canada and I'm a water snob- but for me that means taking my 5 gallon bottles to a nearby spring, filling them, and drinking a full five gallons every 3 days. All I drink is tea and water, and I drink a lot of both. I'm not diabetic. My husband can't understand why I dislike tap water, and I can't understand why he doesn't understand that water has a different taste, wherever you go. You like beer- but you like a certain brand of it- not just any gut rot beer. Same with water. I can tell if he goes to a different spring and fills up. The upside to drinking lots of water is- I'm 50 and have no wrinkles (or grey hair), despite having smoked since I was 12. My mother was a wrinkled prune when she was my age...so drink water folks, drink water!
On menopause- I was completely done by the time I was 44, haven't had a hotflash for 6 years till I stopped smoking last week, now I'm waking up soaked again. But it's winter so at least I can run out into the snow! : )

I'm totally with you about the taste of water -- we have a whole-house filtration system + reverse-osmosis at the kitchen sink, so if we go to visit my parents for a whole day, I take 2 20 oz bottles of water with me -- my mom doesn't get that to me, her water tastes like the lake she lives near. Before my dad died, same story, but his water tasted like the river he lived near, and those are 2 different kinds of water, alright!! *My* husband doesn't get that room-temp water of ANY kind just flat-out gags me; it must be cold or I can't drink it at all. Fortunately I live in the south, where keeping water in the fridge is very much the norm.

My own menopause ended just before I turned 48, about 5 yrs ago, but the hot flashes think it was last week; they haven't gotten the "no more estrogen, ever!" memo yet. But I have a LOT of fans in my house, so I try really hard to get cool before the sweating starts -- but you're right, not much you can do about sweating in your sleep; if I didn't wake up with a soaked pillow every morning, I'd probably think The End is Near! (5 yrs ago, I'd wake up with my entire side of the bed completely soaked!) And people have the GALL to laugh at menopausal ladies!

Andria

 

[Zay_Haze]

Wow, I didn't realize how serious people were about their water. Its pretty awesome to be that enthused about something that healthy though. Unless im mistaken, there's a website where you can plug in your body-weight and it suggests how much water you should drink a day.

As for me I love a glass of filtered tap water while im vaping, I find it cleanses the palette more so you can taste the e-juice better.

 

[FourWinds]

We do? First I've heard of it. I measure liquids in ounces, cups, pints, quarts, and gallons. The way the rest of America does.

Andria

Over here you see, an ounce is a measure of weight.

 

[zapped]

Theres no myth to it.

I chain vape all day long, going through 5-10 ml of juice and it does indeed dry you out. Thats not my opinion, thats fact backed by thousands of members personal experiences and years of anecdotal evidence.

The OP might not get dehydrated from vaping but for all we know they only vape 1/2 a mil a day.....or maybe theyre a mutant?

 

[Plumes.91]

We're animals. When will there be an ad campaign re-teaching people this simple fact?
This is a public service announcement. The major subject of this post: You should drink MORE water!!!!
We need water. Its the universal SOLVENT. Like how we extract alkaloids from plants with the solvent alcohol, or naphtha, our BODIES need WATER to extract the nutrients from the garbage we slide down our throats for our organs function.

H2O(Not carbonated dissolved corn sugar sludge)(Not 30 grams of sugar dissolved into the juice of 2 apples)Our bodies NEED water to function properly. If we had never began corralling animals into blocked off areas, we'd still be living in the wild. We'd still be spending 30% of our days where? THE RIVER. The watering hole. Thats what animals DO. We're so detached from what we are its ridiculous. You wonder why we've got "diseased" and ailments like diabetes, high cholesterol, obesity? Yo all we eat is meat. Bread. Do you think our bodies are designed to eat meat every single day? As if we could catch an animal every day in the wild? Think our bodies are designed to gorge on "bread" the way we do? It's unnatural for what our bodies were designed for.

E-cigs definitely do make me feel dehydrated. Sugar doesn't take the feeling away though, it makes me feel worse! Water almost instantaneously makes me feel so much better if I know I'm dehydrated. Vaping increasingly feels worse. It makes you slow down mentally, and it slows your body down physically. As vapers, we should definitely be drinking our 2 liters a day imo.

 

[Robobob1221]

I usually drink 2-3l of water a day and vaping definitely gives you of feeling of dehydration.
Sometimes I'll get one of those 'hypotonic' drinks (in Japan, Pocari sweat or something similar) and that makes it a lil better.


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[MikeNice81]

The PG is known to dry you out. Ask any musician that has spent time on stage with fog machines. It isn't horrible, but it can be pretty bothersome. Make sure you are drinking more water if you are exposing yourself to PG on a regular basis.

I worked sound for a band that used a lot of fog in their show. My board was right beside the stage and I basically ended up standing in fog for almost two hours. I drank about 40ozs of water and still felt like my eyes, sinuses, and skin were desert dry. Vaping isn't going to be that bad, but it will require some extra hydration. That is even more true if you exercise on a regular basis.

 

[FearTX]

Over here you see, an ounce is a measure of weight.

Here as well, there is a distinction between fluid ounce and ounce though. The distinction is dropped locally figuring people would just know the difference depending on what they were talking about.

BTW The "water myth" you all are talking about happened way before they started selling bottled water. I understand some of you are young but do your research

 

[Bunnykiller]

hmmm I see alot of people here drinking lots of water.... and quite a few of them say that "make" themselves drink more water...
I drink fluids when I get thirsty ( and since I started vaping I have seen no change for my desire to drink more)....

 

[Bunnykiller]

Over here you see, an ounce is a measure of weight.

and over here a pound is a measure of weight too

 

[GPC2012]

I've lived with all kinds of dental pain since I was in my early 20s.. just bad genetics. The stone I had, I dunno, I suppose I passed it, though not in any way that I noticed. The pain (AGONY!) was in my back, right at the area of the kidney. It felt like there was a burning hot SPIKE, INSIDE my back. Heating pad made it worse, and though I usually HATE ice anywhere on my person for any reason, that time, it was the only thing that helped at all. But when I woke up... just gone. Poof! I guess it was just trapped in a bad spot, and eventually moved, and was small enough that I didn't notice passing it. Nice thing about being a woman, I guess.

Andria

My brother lived with kidney problems his whole life, he equated passing a kidney stone was like passing a frieght train wrapped in barbed wire. ouch

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

This is an interesting topic. I don't know if you read my earlier post Bill, but I used to bike a lot. From that experience I know that in typical summer temperatures I have to be drinking a bit over a liter of water per hour to remain adequately hydrated. After 5 - 6 hours of pedaling I typically weighed almost four pounds less than when I started the ride, so about two liters low, if I had been fully hydrated at the start. By the next morning, I'd say I was only two pounds low. If I rode that day again I would loose the two pounds but no more.

I really didn't feel any different with that much difference in hydration and my performance was pretty much the same either way as far as I could tell. I did occasionally get myself dryer than that and did feel that. I've also run out of energy and wow, that can hit you hard!

I don't have to drink anywhere near 64 ounces (1.9 liters) of water a day to stay comfortably hydrated when I'm not sweating. These days I vape maybe 4 ml a day. I know it's a humectant, but how many ml of water can a ml of juice remove from me? Even at 10 to one, that would still only be 40 ml a day (1.4 oz).

I am certainly not saying that hydration is not important or that people can not get dehydrated. But the 64 oz minimum fluid intake per day seems a bit far fetched. And what am I missing about the PG and VG humectant effect?

Hey Ryedan!!

The problem comes in when the average American is chronically dehydrated, and vapes, removing even more water from the body. So many people get their liquid through sodas and other highly destructive liquids and have insufficient amounts of water in the body to start with. The research on the amount of water is controversial. The research on the effects of dehydration is not. Dehydration leads to a host of disorders over time. What you vape today and how much water you lose today is not the issue. The issue is 40 years of chronic dehydration, and the emergence of catastrophic illness. Add to dehydration the heavy metals, pesticides, chemicals, air pollution, electromagnetic pollution, pathogens and parasites for say 4 decades and you have the sickest, non third world country in the world - the good old USA. The research on these points in overwhelming. Anytime you create a condition in the body where it is out of balance, even a little, and magnify that deficiency over decades, you have the formula for the diseases that we see today in society in numbers tens and hundreds of times higher than we saw only 100 years ago. The question of dehydration is simply a loser over time, no matter how much we try to minimize the effect and impact. Think bad diets, dehydration, etc., etc., over decades and that's how we got here. I'm not the least bit concerned with the loss of 1.4 ounces today. But if you started out at chronic dehydration, say an ounce too little today, add 1.4 ounces to that number, now multiply by 40 years, you have catastrophic illness. Bad habits, become negative behaviors, and with enough time, the body will break down. May take decades, but it will happen, and happens to about 70% of the population like clock work these days.

 

[AttyPops]

More water = more pee = more flushing the PG and VG out of your system. (It's gotta go somewhere to exit. Helps liver/kidneys flush it out.)
Plus it's good to drink enough water everyday.
Plus it helps with dry throat.

So drink some water.