The Echo Thread - Part 2

[Cool_Breeze]

I have thought the draw on my 808 Echo CV Cartos was a little stiff. This evening I drilled out the center tube and the metal top hat to 3/32" on one carto. That seemed to help. I haven't yet noticed any drawback other than perhaps condensation in the carto which I don't recall having noticed before. That could have been from it not being empty and dry when I took it apart. I'm using homemade coils on cotton string wicks.

 

[Charlz]

I still have yet to understand why they changed that old wide top hat to a skinny nipple. I have two from the first batches that I treat like gold. Anyone who has spent any amount of time around pvs knows you don't try to force a lot of vapor through a skinny hole. I search online every now and then for some kind of substitute. When I find one, the whole world will know.

If there's condensation in the carto, it means you don't have a solid seal and vapor is somehow getting into the carto. That means juice can seep out too. Nice job, though. The other thing I do is break off the cone side of the metal and reverse it for more of a top hat thing. It's wider, but still not as wide as the original ones.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

The other thing I do is break off the cone side of the metal and reverse it for more of a top hat thing. It's wider, but still not as wide as the original ones.

What method do you use to break off the cone? I suppose you enlarge the opening in the small rubbery cap..(?) Does it still seal okay?

 

[Charlz]

If you squeeze the nipple side in a pair if needle nose, it cracks.....rotate it 90 and repeat. If you keep the pliers right next to the lip that keeps it in place, it breaks off clean at the base. Haven't widened the silicon because it doesn't matter when the metal piece is reinserted. However, I'm on the hunt for the perfect o ring that would seal it just above the wicks. Then you could widen the hole on the silicon, throw out the metal part and replace the tip for a perfectly clear path to flavor heaven and still have a sealed connection above the coil so there's no condensation buildup.

This explanation needs pics, I know.

 

[lulu836]

While I was out of town for a few days you guys have been posting about drilling out stuff and turning things upside down so I'm lost yet again. I've gone back and read each post but I'm still lost. So what I need to buy is a couple of non-stealth, regulated, black 1300 Echo batteries and a couple of clearos with the attributes that are the most desirable. I've hit the usual sites but some of the vendors are being a bit cagey about what they actually have. Can someone tell me which vendor has the batteries and clearos I'm talking about? As always........thanks.

Off Topic: American Airlines is running "puddle jumpers" for cross country flights (50 passenger type). If you can use another airline by all means do so.

 

[Charlz]

Don't be afraid of the stealth's. They seem to have the bugs worked out. Consider them version 2 stealths. The only one who still has leds for sale is Rob and he hasn't gotten new stock in in quite some time. Last I looked he still had some 1300s left but better snap them up quick. His 2.5 ohm ce4s are my favorite so far but I don't see them anymore. He has a vgo version with long wicks but those are for cone threads so they don't fit the echo.

 

[Cigarman]

Don't be afraid of the stealth's. They seem to have the bugs worked out. Consider them version 2 stealths. The only one who still has leds for sale is Rob and he hasn't gotten new stock in in quite some time. Last I looked he still had some 1300s left but better snap them up quick. His 2.5 ohm ce4s are my favorite so far but I don't see them anymore. He has a vgo version with long wicks but those are for cone threads so they don't fit the echo.

Search the site for 808 Clearo, you'll find them. 1300's in black, stainless and chrome with LED's and a few black 650's are available. Enjoy the weekend.
-Rob

 

[Charlz]

well, whatdya know.....Vision 808 Echo Transparent Clearomizer, 2.5 Ohm

 

[lulu836]

Search the site for 808 Clearo, you'll find them. 1300's in black, stainless and chrome with LED's and a few black 650's are available. Enjoy the weekend.
-Rob

Found 'em and ordered 'em. Thanks.

 

[lulu836]

Don't be afraid of the stealth's. They seem to have the bugs worked out. Consider them version 2 stealths. The only one who still has leds for sale is Rob and he hasn't gotten new stock in in quite some time. Last I looked he still had some 1300s left but better snap them up quick. His 2.5 ohm ce4s are my favorite so far but I don't see them anymore. He has a vgo version with long wicks but those are for cone threads so they don't fit the echo.

I know I'm somewhat of a stick in the mud but I just don't like the stealths. I can't give you a rational reason I just don't like 'em. The week I was out of town I vaped on the plane, at all restaurants and tourist venues and anywhere else I wanted to with no recriminations. On the plane I just put my hand around the LED and let the vapor out very slowly......no problems.

 

[whodat2112]

well, whatdya know.....Vision 808 Echo Transparent Clearomizer, 2.5 Ohm

I LOVE the 808 clearos!!!!!!!!!

 

[whodat2112]

I know I'm somewhat of a stick in the mud but I just don't like the stealths. I can't give you a rational reason I just don't like 'em. The week I was out of town I vaped on the plane, at all restaurants and tourist venues and anywhere else I wanted to with no recriminations. On the plane I just put my hand around the LED and let the vapor out very slowly......no problems.

I did the same at a concert!!!!! (hid the l.e.d.)

 

[Los Marauder]

I still have my unprotected 1st series stealths. As some here know, I am one of the few that got a couple that worked. Well, they still vape like chimneys, take more abuse than an anvill, and as my familly has come to be awair, will be willed to the old school Echo vapers here on this thread via my demise. Some one in China(bless their sole) put all the good parts in the ones I recieved. God gave me legs to walk to the car. God gave me stealths to vape when I get there.

 

[RugDoctor]

I would like to get a stealth battery but dont mind the LED batts at all. I just put my hand over the light when i dont want it seen. I would like one with the red/orange light so it would look like im smokin a big fat cigar haha. I definately like the clearos the best, give a real good flavor from the juice in them and easy for me to see how much juice i have in the tank and when it needs a refill.

 

[lulu836]

Maintaining the CE4+ Stardust cartomizer - YouTube

I'm posting this shortcut for about the last 15 seconds of the video about improving the draw on the iTurbo (or whatever everyone calls their particular edition of the Stardust).

First, I did a massive cleaning of all my Echo batts last week and during the cleanout of the juice-well I managed to get all the airholes gunked up. They were a really hard draw until I cleaned them out as well. So fellow noobs remember the airholes.

After I watched the above video I decided to give their improvement method a shot. The pipe only moves a squillenth of a millimeter but it does move (in my case too much but easily fixable). Then I decided to give the clearo a try with no juice in it and discovered that there was a pool of juice atop the battery after the draw. Don't know where it came from but it happened about 3 times.

I am in no way suggesting anybody actually do this since I have not tested the clearo I did it to so it may leak
or do any other plethora of weird and strange things. I just had never seen this addressed before. YMMV

Edit:
I've using the "experimental" clearo with no problems. The draw is not a lot different but vapor production seems a bit more using the same juice as before the experiment.

 

[Cigarman]

I LOVE the 808 clearos!!!!!!!!!

Me too! V2's are available in 2.1-2.4 now, it's a nice fit with the Echo batt.

 

[txtumbleweed]

Me too! V2's are available in 2.1-2.4 now, it's a nice fit with the Echo batt.

I wish I would have known that when I ordered this AM. I would've picked up a couple to try the lower resistance.

 

[lulu836]

GotVapes PHOENiX™ BottomCoil XL 1.5ml Cartomizer 2.6-2.8ohm -808 [gv-PHOENIX-XL-BC-808-2.6] - $11.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

808 Phoenix..............has anybody tried these yet?

 

[txtumbleweed]

GotVapes PHOENiX™ BottomCoil XL 1.5ml Cartomizer 2.6-2.8ohm -808 [gv-PHOENIX-XL-BC-808-2.6] - $11.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more



808 Phoenix..............has anybody tried these yet?

I've tried the 510 Phoenix and they work good but I don't think they would look very good with an Echo. They are longer than an echomizer and skinnier. They don't leak at all though and like I said vape very good for me.

 

[Errol]

FWIW I have 35 ECHO 808/901 Dual Coil Cartomizers I'll sell at a reasonable price in 5pack lots. PM me for details.

Errol