I wouldn't advise going below 2 ohms. The lower ohms seem to be hard on the batteries and will take it to cutoff everytime.
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I wouldn't advise going below 2 ohms. The lower ohms seem to be hard on the batteries and will take it to cutoff everytime.
whoa there! Before we go galloping off the the suppliers we need to have the proper info. The original echos on the market had a very airy draw. Version 2 addressed this and these are the ones I originally purchased. They were perfect. very easy draw and filled your lungs with no primer puff in about 3 seconds. That was when you first saw me, singing "the hills are alive!"
These new ones suck for a different reason. Mainly they are pumping out echomizers that anyone should see should have gone in the trash rather than make it out the door. Here's a crappy pic of the new DCC I got.
That glob on the right, is a hundred times more solder than should ever be used and is sitting right on the lower wick, partially blocking the hole. The wick has been pulled back in place. Originally it was inside the tube and the solder was further in the hole.
The wire that sticks out on the left and attaches to the gigantic glob of solder, is the resistance wire. That's right! There is a tiny tail that glows red inside on the wick, the rest sticks out the tube. I dropped it fiddling with my camera and disconnected it but yes, the wire ran up the outside of the tube, burning the inner filler as it did. Echo manufacturers, hang your head in shame.
None of this is our suppliers fault. But if we are going to ask them to address these issues to the manufacturer, we need to have them fix the right thing. I don't want my next batch of echos having too airy of a draw. That was corrected already.
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It's the 510 version and it's beyond my ability to get it to move.
Had good luck doing the same thing with an Echo-E using a 510 battery but when I tried the same thing on a 808/901 Echo using an adapter on a 510 bat I didn't have the strength, felt like the adapter would give up before it came apart, hence the punch method.Errol
It's the 510 version and it's beyond my ability to get it to move.
Errol
The punch method is the new method for tricky 510 turbos. A metal rod thicker than the post. Tap it with a hammer a little to loosen it up. Then you can finish with the wiggle method. A tube that fits over the center post would be better so you can punch it against the base. RockinRobbie made a vid for the new ones. I will find it and pm you.
Don't bother Charlz, I'm not that wild about the turbo anyway. Just wanted to see if I could get it apart without a lot of fuss. Actually I like the Vision Stone along with a VISION DEUX that I purchased several months back and finally got around to trying a lot better. I even tried putting some extra wicks in the Turbo as you had talked about, didn't make much difference.
Errol
I just implied that people seemed to like whatever he had been distributing and not liking the new and improved tight ones
Lol sorry!
Feel free to correct any damage vis a vis tony or tell me what to tell him and I shall
Lol sorry!
Feel free to correct any damage vis a vis tony or tell me what to tell him and I shall
I just wanted to give you the bigger picture. The tighter draw thing was last year. This issue now is just the sudden degrading of what is the best product on the market.
Of Course, Mr Horse....
You will be buying more. You're experience and input does matter. Say what you want, if you want it. Maybe you'll get it. It's the only way.
and all of the issues I have had, save the one from above were silly issues that were easily fixed. Readjusting the coil and wick...rewrapping the filler....etc. Not HUGE, just time better spent vaping.
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I hope this method gets perfected for most but for me my hands aren't strong enough. I can get one apart that was previously punched out but no luck on a new one.
Keep working on it, I know I'll be giving it more thought, maybe off to the gym to build up some arm, wrist and hand strength.
Errol
Ill try some more brand new ones tonight that the coils and wicks look iffy on from initial inspection. I push the carto near the top as that seems to give more of a fulcrum action at the base. And I'm working with 808 echo cartos on an 808 echo auto. Could still be a fluke, who knows.
I hope this method gets perfected for most but for me my hands aren't strong enough. I can get one apart that was previously punched out but no luck on a new one.
Keep working on it, I know I'll be giving it more thought, maybe off to the gym to build up some arm, wrist and hand strength.
Errol
Me either. I use a combo now. Punch first then wiggle to finish. I'm afraid too much wiggling on a battery will disrupt the battery seal. Sooner or later it will happen. That's a big no no. In case of a battery that gets too hot, you need it to vent forward. If the seal is damaged, the force could blow it towards you. I use a dead 808 battery to wiggle with.
So just tried the wiggle method on two new cartos. Carto one: stiff but worked. Carto two: ouch...just ouch. No ammount of force made it budge.
Tap tap wiggle wiggle method currently in the lead. However on ones that have been taken apart wiggle seems to work fine even if they were pushed all the way back together.
Tap tap wiggle wiggle method currently in the lead. However on ones that have been taken apart wiggle seems to work fine even if they were pushed all the way back together.
Has anyone ask her who makes them? I wonder if it is Vision instead of HG Hangsen. I was on the Vision site today looking at some interesting cartos and tanks. http://www.visionecigar.com/pid11205754/Vision+Echo+Ego+Cartomizers.htm
I don't see where they are making any batteries seems like they are just doing the Vision Cartos and some they call Echo cartos.
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That's been a concern of mine also as I did pull the end of one battery doing essentially the same thing we're talking about, fortunately it had been retired.
Errol
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Errol have you seen the new Vision Stone3? they have some pretty good pics here of them and how to replace the carto. http://www.visionecigar.com/pid11205213/Vision+V3+Stone+clearomizer.htm
More rumors that the echo isn't even made by HS. Wasn't it that one vendor that is no longer around who told us that? I don't think the stealth are hs. The picture on the iTurbo kit showed a different manufacturer on the battery. I looked it up.
Is the problem that I haven't been buying true HS echos? Before I got the one from Victoria, the batch I was complaining about came from a vendor who told me they came from HS.
Either way, would love to get my hands on the dcc they picture. I've only had three. One got tossed before we understood how to take them apart. Another is sitting till I understand how to fix a broken connection on a dcc and the third.....well, you saw that one. Looked nothing like the picture.
They also say they will make any ohm we want. A single coil 2.5 ohm would be great.
Makes sense that there are several making something like the echo. Probably not a brand name so anyone can put one out like anyone can make an ego or a kgo.
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Then there's the fact that some look different on the inside when you take them apart. Why would they have two different bases? Unless I'm being paranoid and it's like I said. They did what they had to with whatever parts they could get to keep up with demand.
I saw this same exact thing somewhere, just can't remember. Same pics for re assembly as well...
Here is a very good video on rebuilding the Vision Turbo Repairing L.L. LeakLess / CE4 atomizer GR
lookie here:
(I have no idea why all my photos load sideways these days, wtf lol)
(I have no idea why all my photos load sideways these days, wtf lol)
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