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Tony at Cropduster has the 650 for 12.95, 1300 for 15.95 and the usb charger for 2.75
BATTERIES AND CHARGERS : Cropduster901!, Home of the B-52
smoktek has the manual 808 ego type 650 and 900 for 18.95 http://www.smoktek.com/808-eGo-battery-650-900mAh--manual_p_162.html
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I saw that. Less than $20 for a 1300 big batt and a charger. Is the manual echo-e KR808 friendly? Sorry, not up to speed on this stuff.
The Echo-e has 510 threads! The manual from Smoktek is 808 You might want to pick up one ot the small cones to cover the threads if you go with the manual from smoktek.
The Echo auto battery is a very good battery though and my favorite.
Thank you very much for the info! A lot of the time, I like the auto. I think I'm going to do the Cropduster deal, you just can't beat that for under $20, although I don't see a 420ma charger for the echo, just the echo-e.
The Echo does use the the lower mah chargers and does take about eight hours to charge a dead battery. They are designed to take a very slow charge and it is recommended to not use a faster charge on them. It is better on the battery to take a slower charge and I think this is how they get a 1300 mah rated battery without making it bigger.
The echo with it's slow charger is one of the only batteries I feel comfortable charging overnight. It has never even gotten remotely warm on the charger and it won't complete the charging cycle long before I get up and take it off.
found a good method for looking at the coil with a led flashlight. Easier to see whats what when they are empty though. I was worried that the bottom of the tube was off center too meaning it would be too close to the white glue. (been reading the old posts) but by the angle i have to look down the tube to see anything i can tell that the bottom of the tube is still centered so that glue should not be an issue unless the coil and only the coil is out of place.
I understand the recentering with a toothpick. but the pin from the bottom, thats going up from the bottom and AVOIDing the atty right? Otherwise you would be hitting something and that would be the coil yes?
I'm starting to get this now. All my cartos should be fine. I guess I am paranoid as my first post after I got the echo was about the center tubes being off center. But now I understand how and why they should still work fine.
PS YES i turbo tank just came in the mail with my new juices! perfect!
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Much smaller than I thought! I'm sold. It doesn't look THAT much bigger than a regular KR808. And you're right- 8 hours can be done overnight.
And oh- are those regulated?
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Hey guys, heads up, the Echo and the iTurbo look similar, but they can't be the same. because the Echo factory only makes the Echo. I talked to my guy and they don't sell them to other factories to mod and sell, so this iTurbo batt must be different. At least by my detective work. Don't mean to beat a dead horse, just saying.
Here's a pic if I haven't posted it in enough places yet, LOL!
and a pic of the ITurbo:
Here's a pic if I haven't posted it in enough places yet, LOL!
and a pic of the ITurbo:
I got one of the iTurbos today to try with my echo and they are a very nice looking and well made, They are very easy to fill with a bottle or syringe. The first tank vaped very good with lots of vapor and wicked well with no leaking at all. The second refill didn't go quite as well being as I had some leaking and it was getting into my auto batt which isn't a good thing. I might have filled it too full but I took it off my echo and I'm using it on my L-Rider for now until I see if it is going to have anymore leaking issues. If it doesn't leak it appears to be a very good ce2 type tank for the echo.
Ive been using mine since the afternoon, Got to my third refill, and had some leaking from the battery connection side, but i could feel the juice in the center tube when i inhaled so i dismantled and had a little juice on top of my drip resistant echo battery (luckily), it happened right off the fill, and i did blow out the center tube before i reattached. I'm thinking i got some on the center tube when filling as i was filling with nozzle not syringe. Perhaps letting it sit for a bit like a carto is a very good idea just incase there is some late-comer juice getting ready to slide down.
Also, getting some crazy dark juice discoloration, but read that was normal.
Giving it another go, I really think at this point my leak was user error as after blowing it out alot more and waiting i cant get it to leak at all.
I think mine was filling error too but I think we will have to be a little more careful with these especially with the unsealed autos. I just refilled again but this time I didn't fill it quite as full and I haven't had any problems. I'm going to use it on my L-Rider for awhile until I'm sure they don't leak or I get familiar with filling them.
Careful is key. At first i thought the leak happened because i got some down the metal tube, but im sure that didn't happen. So then i thought perhaps juice got on top of the silicone piece but after looking at it carefully i don't think that could cause that much juice to crawl up the mouthpiece and then down the tiny center of the metal tube.
My fear is the atty over wicks and starts to spit juice down the tube. Its either that, or filling error, or the silicone/mouthpiece seal loosens up after it gets warm, but i think in that case i would find alot more juice stuck under the mouthpiece.
Perhaps Charlz can shed some more light on these things after he is done with his testing, as he also seems to have experience with the 510 stardust visions.
My fear is the atty over wicks and starts to spit juice down the tube. Its either that, or filling error, or the silicone/mouthpiece seal loosens up after it gets warm, but i think in that case i would find alot more juice stuck under the mouthpiece.
Perhaps Charlz can shed some more light on these things after he is done with his testing, as he also seems to have experience with the 510 stardust visions.
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They are alot like the vision except the wicks are much shorter. I like the looks of these better though. They do seem to go through the juice pretty quick and you can almost see it go down as you vape. lol It could be because I'm used to a 3.4 ml echo carto and you can't see the juice in them. Did you fill yours to the top line?
Yep, my first fill i over shot it a hair, but that didn't cause any issues. [I did see a post about a supplier reccomending that you do not fill it more than 2/3rds full on the first fill, but it didnt say why, and it was for the E-turbo]
The over filling thing seems a little odd since the juice goes all the way to the top when you vape...but it could be an internal pressure thing??
I know what you mean about watching it go down lol. If the echo cartos actually eat juice as fast as this guy does than I am vaping DRY echo cartos! So i dont think they do.
is your juice turning as dark as mine? A little disconcerting still.
The over filling thing seems a little odd since the juice goes all the way to the top when you vape...but it could be an internal pressure thing??
I know what you mean about watching it go down lol. If the echo cartos actually eat juice as fast as this guy does than I am vaping DRY echo cartos! So i dont think they do.
is your juice turning as dark as mine? A little disconcerting still.
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A little darker but not much. The juice in the vision gets pretty dark after a few days. I haven't vaped them real steady though so the juice sets in them for awhile.
I always vape my Echos pretty dry and usually get 3ml on a refill.
I always vape my Echos pretty dry and usually get 3ml on a refill.
I just got some juice from vapor renu in and it goes from clear/light yellow to brown to dark dark in the matter of one tank full. Something in it must be very reactive to heat/light. Its starts changing color in minutes! Ill try a different juice later...
Oh and I alternate between 3 cartos all day so i dont get super dry unless i forget to fill at night
. I don't syringe refill, but i think ill start as i seem to have some trouble getting em vaping right again for a little while.- Status
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