The Echo Thread

[Cyrus Vap]

Single coils are nearly as good as the dual coils. The dual coils have a little extra kick and get warmer a little faster. I personally cannot tell the difference between the two if I mix up which is which. I have heard they really perform at higher volts. The DCC's drain the battery and juice faster too. Flavor: same on both for me. Warmth: both reach the same temp for me, but the DCC reaches it faster.

good to know!

Also, the Singles are slightly easier to take apart because you can remove the stuffing first, where as you have to dismantle a DCC with stuffing in. And you can easily see the coil on the SCC to adjust it without taking it apart (still a bit tricky though.)

that makes sense, I'm guessing peeking down the hole at the coil on a single is just like doing that on a kanger, just a giant version. good thing you told me this, I thought I was supposed to destuff the DCC before trying to dismantle lol. I'm considering replacing the stuffing with some PTB to see if I can improve the draw, but obviously decrease the capacity. So hammer out first with something long, then remove stuffing. got it.
I enjoy the DCC's but the advantages of them are marginal for me on the standard Echo battery and the juice cost and battery life cost makes them not ideal for my all day vape. I use them for my occasional "heavy hitting" vapes.

Oh by the way the DCC's were invented by a Forum member. This echo thread is a very exciting read at times.

wow who was it? very cool.

And yes, as far as we have discussed on the thread the only way to use an adapter on the sealed Echo is to slot it yourself. It would work on an unsealed one though. (hope im helping)

Big help thank you I don't own a high speed dremel so I have no idea how to even approach this. If anyone is willing to do it for me I'll send 2 adaptors to you and cover all the costs!

 

[txtumbleweed]

mwa102464 was the first one to build an echo dual and he took the ideal to Mountain Vapor who had the manufacture build them. Mtn Vapor original ones were lower ohms than the present ones and worked very good on a mod but would not work well on the echo auto. They raised the ohm value after the initial prototypes so they would work on the auto. At least that is how I remember it going but I'm getting old and senile. lol

 

[StartLifeEndLife]

That sounds right according to my readings of this thread.
I thought it was really really cool that mwa did that!

Meanwhile what about sticky tac for keeping the center tube in place on a rebuild? Its semi reusable and the box says its non-toxic. I will have to do some research on it and maybe try burning some and see what happens to it.

It holds pretty firmly if you sandwhich the tube between two pieces of tack. Above (I think) is a pic of my prototype. I used tons of tac, but it should be able to hold with half or less of the ammount I used.

 

[StartLifeEndLife]

Okay, blue tack apparently has a flash point of 200 degrees F at which it releases some ammount of toxic somethings. But before that its supposably safe..even to eat. Disclaimer: the above statement is based on an unverified internet source at this time.

So might not be ideal...but could still work if I find out how hot my cartos can get from the coils. And if that's hopefully well under the 200 degree point.

okay, perhaps this should really be in an echo rebuild thread. Sorry.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

did we start an echo rebuild thread? need to subscribe!

could those of you who have sealed echos indulge me

find the little pin hole on the battery post, and see where it is in relation to the two pin holes on the battery threads

is it in line with one of them, or totally off?

 

[txtumbleweed]

did we start an echo rebuild thread? need to subscribe!

could those of you who have sealed echos indulge me

find the little pin hole on the battery post, and see where it is in relation to the two pin holes on the battery threads

is it in line with one of them, or totally off?

How can you see them?

 

[Cyrus Vap]

make sure you have good lighting (most important)

turn the battery slowly, keep an eye on the outside of the post. it helps to be looking down at it. The hole is actually in the middle of the post at about the same level height as the air intake holes on the battery thread. If that doesn't work you can take a sewing needle or small pin and gently tilt the post away from your line of sight, which should lift up the hole so you can see it

that post is way more pliable than you'd think, you're not going to break anything

And there is only one hole

 

[txtumbleweed]

I would have to begin with good eyesight so I guess I'm out. lol I can barely see the holes on the outside. I'm a little concerned about the inner hole plugging like the others do but they are easy to clear with a needle.

 

[Charlz]

I take the stuffing out of a dcc. If it's wet, the inner filler stays wrapped. Then you pop it out and unwrap that. I'm trying blue foam in one next. Geez.....haven't used blue foam since I used cartridges.

BTW I ordered 801 cartridges from a different site....they were rubber.

 

[txtumbleweed]

That's too bad. There are only a couple that have the hard tips that I know of. Word-up ecig has the best prices 2.75 for five and free shipping. They also list them as either hard or soft tip. Empty Cartridges I just got ten more in the mail yesterday

 

[Charlz]

silly me assumed they would all be the same. Oh well.

 

[txtumbleweed]

The reason I know is I use to want the soft ones for my Go-Go and got the hardtips a couple of times by mistake so I knew who had them.

 

[Charlz]

Just ordered because they aren't going to ship between the 13th and 20th. Hopefully they will send them out tomorrow otherwise I'm waiting.


Snagged some chrome horizontal kangers too!

 

[Charlz]

If anyone wants to swap out the wick on their turbos, COV has good wick in stock. It's hard to get too. Gonna use it to rewick my echos too. New Odysseus Wick

 

[StartLifeEndLife]

I take the stuffing out of a dcc. If it's wet, the inner filler stays wrapped. Then you pop it out and unwrap that. I'm trying blue foam in one next. Geez.....haven't used blue foam since I used cartridges.

BTW I ordered 801 cartridges from a different site....they were rubber.

Good to know, I only took apart a broken DCC so far so didn't know if i hurt anything when i pulled the stuffing out. Makes sense though that you wouldn't if the filler is wet enough not to snag anything.

Will have to pick up some of that wick.

 

[Charlz]

The inner wrapping has always stayed put and only the outer filler came out. (so far)

 

[lulu836]

make sure you have good lighting (most important)

turn the battery slowly, keep an eye on the outside of the post. it helps to be looking down at it. The hole is actually in the middle of the post at about the same level height as the air intake holes on the battery thread. If that doesn't work you can take a sewing needle or small pin and gently tilt the post away from your line of sight, which should lift up the hole so you can see it

that post is way more pliable than you'd think, you're not going to break anything

And there is only one hole

I have a super-duper flourescently lit magnifying lamp on my "DIY table" and I am not seeing any holes in the top of my sealed Echo 1300. I see two holes exactly opposite each other below the threads only.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Did you try gently prying up on the post witha pin? GENtLY

 

[lulu836]

I was letting the poster know that there is no hole in the top of my sealed battery. I decline to lift up the battery post 'cause I did that to an Echomizer and all the wires came out with it. I know those are two different things but I only do the battery post thing with 808 batteries.

 

[Charlz]

He was trying to help with air flow. Apparently he found the pot-o-gold. He was able to line the air holes underneath the sealed post of the battery with the air holes in the threads and thinks it may have improved air flow. They are down there.....




I just got in there with a bright led flashlight. I did see one of the holes. It's already lined up with the thread hole. Maybe that's why I really have to concentrate to notice a difference.