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I think we're saying about the same thing worded differently. Were you originally wondering why a dual at 1.5 ohms total resistance (each coil 3 ohms) needs more power applied than to run a single 1.5 ohm coil to get a similar vape?

I was originally trying to figure out the amps to not overtax anything. Looking at electronics equations wasn't getting anywhere because they're not thinking about heat.
Learning electronics math (which doesn't always follow what you'd think it would) I kept coming up with a free lunch, twice the heating area at no cost. So I was wondering where the cost was, I could only see it using ribbon because it took a while to heat up. I really got confused when I went to thinner wire and started treating them as a single coil, until I figured out to crank the wattage up (while reading that thread), then it all clicked. I started seeing the doubled vapor and higher cost.


Just remember ... resistance by itself isn't that meaningful, as you can reach the same resistance in different ways. So if you are not taking into account those ways, the analysis of coil performance will be incomplete.

But when making a comparison between dual and single mixing masses between them makes it more confusing. I think that was part of my original confusion.
And probably is still part of my questioning of the sense of V9 duals vs IGO-L single because I have 32ga in the V9 and ribbon in the IGO. They're probably basically doing the same thing and I need to go more extreme with the V9 dual to make it really shine.


I find it more appealing to run a single coil of thicker wire than to run multiple coils of thinner wire. Lower gauge, thicker wire takes more watts to heat up at a given resistance too. A 1.5 ohm, 32ga coil runs much hotter at 10 watts than a 1.5 ohm, 28ga coil. The 28ga coil needs more watts to heat up the same as the thinner wire, but that heat is spread over a bigger area to increase the vapor like dual coils do. About the same effect, but I only need to wrap and install one coil.

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Overall, me too. But the V9 doesn't seem to do good with any single coil set up I've tried compared to the IGO-L. Lighter dual wires in it gives me a wide range of possible settings which alone is a big plus. When I had dual ribbon in it too low of power wouldn't produce, too high would quickly burn.


Myk's post finally moved my two remaining brain cells to rub together and create a spark and then I realized my mistake.

I could confuse the matter further by bringing into account the added mass, surface area and environmental factors that affect the temperature of the coils and require us to use actually more than double the power , but it's best to just tell people to turn it up until it tastes right... :)

That's how I felt trying to figure it out. I could only console myself saying that it's not the first time electronics have confused me.
Turning it up until it tastes right is my usual mantra. But if you've never had duals before tasting right would be judged on single coils. I think my new mantra for duals is to either double the wattage and adjust or use voltage and treat it like a single coil and adjust. My usual with the V9 dual set up I'm liking is a little lower than double. I can go over double but I'm not sure if the Vamo is giving all it says it is that high with a single 18650.
 

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The express kit comes with the short tube only, but you can still use 18650s with the short tube, so the long tube is unnecessary unless you want to stack two 18350s.

The full kit comes with the long and short tubes, and two iclear 30s, the full kit is worth the extra cost for the iclear 30s and spare heads, but the spare tube is superfluous.

Im stacking with short tube, working perfect, using 2x efest 18350 flat top, the tube screw in to cover the treadings. So no need for long tube here


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So the long tube would be needed for...... no reason that we know of? I guess it would give a different look and feel, but it seems weird Innokin would have included it just for that. Either way, I'd get the express kit, so nice to know I won't miss out on anything not having the long tube.

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So the long tube would be needed for...... no reason that we know of? I guess it would give a different look and feel, but it seems weird Innokin would have included it just for that. Either way, I'd get the express kit, so nice to know I won't miss out on anything not having the long tube.

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Just for look! Unless we found a 18950 battery or triple stacking. Lol

BTW, i put an eye on the KMAX mmm, never too many mods i need a backup for the backup of the backup, i liked the chrome one, if they listed in a couple of day the gunmetal with red screen im in


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Just for look! Unless we found a 18950 battery or triple stacking. Lol

BTW, i put an eye on the KMAX mmm, never too many mods i need a backup for the backup of the backup, i liked the chrome one, if they listed in a couple of day the gunmetal with red screen im in


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What's interesting with the Kmax is it has some kind of mirrored screen, so the display matches the mod until a button is pushed. The chrome/silver one hides it the best. I do like the antique brass look of the bronze colored one though. I'm pretty sure I'll get a Kmax, the hard part to decide will be what color scheme to get. I'm sure FT will be getting more colors too.

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Nice to meet you Blue!!... That's usually what I do too! I've already got a couple things in my FT cart.. LOL
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Now I am thinking of putting that ithaca clone in my cart. I need someone to sneeze some moe cobans in my liquid. :)

A pleasure mate. :)
 

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What's interesting with the Kmax is it has some kind of mirrored screen, so the display matches the mod until a button is pushed. The chrome/silver one hides it the best. I do like the antique brass look of the bronze colored one though. I'm pretty sure I'll get a Kmax, the hard part to decide will be what color scheme to get. I'm sure FT will be getting more colors too.

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I like the Kmax too but I want it in the green, red or gold.. I like the bronze but would like a different screen colour....they are sure to get more colours in :)
 

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I like the Kmax too but I want it in the green, red or gold.. I like the bronze but would like a different screen colour....they are sure to get more colours in :)

I'm very much leaning towards the bronze, but with a different screen color than the black that FT is currently offering. I've seen pictures of the other screen colors on the chrome. The gold or red might match well with the bronze. I also like the color of green they use, it looks good with the chrome, maybe it'll be a good look with the bronze too.

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Does anyone know...if I put stuff in the Cart whether it can be there for an extended period of time or does FT dump the Cart after a certain number of days?

They had some deal where hitting enter to search would add stuff to the cart. I never had one of those disappear unless I removed it, but I have no idea how long I left them there.
 

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They had some deal where hitting enter to search would add stuff to the cart. I never had one of those disappear unless I removed it, but I have no idea how long I left them there.

It happens to me something similar after looking new arrival or searching, my cart get 1 - 2 items added.... Mmmmm was a signal from heaven to buy them ?


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Apologies if this has been brought up... This is a mammoth thread, and well... Search on mobile sucks hard, but...

What about tracking numbers?

My first fasttech order "shipped" on Friday, and the tracking number continues to come back "delivery status not available."

Is this common? Will it be available once it hits U.S. Soil? Is there a way to track it before then?
 

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Apologies if this has been brought up... This is a mammoth thread, and well... Search on mobile sucks hard, but...

What about tracking numbers?

My first fasttech order "shipped" on Friday, and the tracking number continues to come back "delivery status not available."

Is this common? Will it be available once it hits U.S. Soil? Is there a way to track it before then?

For me it takes 2 to 3 days since they give me a tracking number to the point it appears on the Singapore Post website.
 
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