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On a lighter note, vapemail arrived today! Nothing enormously earth-shattering, but some nice fun stuff:

1. The best surprise in the "Hmn, I wonder if this will work?" category is GS-H5 Bottom Coil Clearomizer (3.0mL)
GS-H5, Translucent, 2.4ohm / SKU: 1456403 .

It is a nearly totally transparent BCC, which is incredibly light and works wonderfully right out of the box. No washing or whatever.I took it out of the box and said "Flimsy?" but it isn't. It has a lovely soft draw that is slightly less airy than the PT1s, very smooth, no leaks, very minimalist. Do not crush it, however. Does not add additional weight to heavy objects. For $3 I think I'll get more. While it isn't a drawback for me, you can't change the drip tip and it is plastic.

2. Second cool little thing: iClear16/CE4/CE5/CE6 to 510 Drip Tip Adapter https://www.fasttech.com/products/1473509 . Although this little thing adds an extra centimeter of height, it works perfectly, and clearos - normal CE4s - can now have towering drip tips. It dresses them up. Nice unified look with the metal top of the clearo. No draw problems. Just really cool for $1.67...

3. Two more pretty little jade stone drip tips. I really like these. Both were inserted into their own little foam sleeves, so they withstood the trip well.

4. K2 E-Cigarette Round Mouth Atomizer (3.5mL) K2, Silver, 2.4ohm / SKU: 1439803 The jury is still out on this one, because the post will not connect to my MVPs, but works fine on mech mods and egos. If I could find my little adapter, it would probably fix that situation, but I think one of my felines has made off with it. The exact opposite of the GS-H5, this one is heavy, sturdy, made of glass and a bit Baroque in design. I didn't have any luck with the X10, but this one draws well and tastes great. No need to wash it either. The silver does not really suit stainless steel mods, however, but that's just me.

5. Bits and bobs like a window thermometer, replacement Kanger heads, little cord organizers made of brightly coloured pieces of velcro ( they work well and believe me, you can see them...) and a travel Universal 4A AC Power Adapter 6-Port USB Travel Charger (UK/Euro/US/AU Plug) 6-USB, UK/Euro/US/AU Plug, White / SKU: 1335504 also to try and organize my existence.

For the delivery-time obsessed, this took nearly 4 weeks because it came through HKP, not SGP, and waited the full 15 days in HK before the obligatory week in our Customs... :)

All in all, fun and useful stuff. I am especially pleased with the adaptors and the GS-H5.
 

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I couldn't hold it any longer so I ordered Taifun, was waiting for something exciting.
Besides, original Taifun GT is $173 vs $19 at FT.


Me too ... ordered ... Fogger works pretty well, and this Taifun clone should be easier to work on (can get to the coil WAY easier)

I also like how the juice control on this Taifun works better than the Fogger's
 

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Both issues are very clearly showing that china has a ways to go where health and safety regulations are concerned. It is not something else entirely. They are very much the same issue. If there is money to be made, at the expense of someone else health, it's worth it.

And by voting with your dollars, you support this.

Also to the people getting emotional because someone said something other than "OH MY GOD FASTTECH IS THE BEST" grow up.

This is a thread for people who purchase from Fasttech and want to discuss their Fasttech purchases.
 

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This is a thread for people who purchase from Fasttech and want to discuss their Fasttech purchases.

In all fairness his first post was as a FastTech customer. People just need to learn when to stop. Simple complaints turn into vendettas way too quickly around here.
 

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In all fairness his first post was as a FastTech customer. People just need to learn when to stop. Simple complaints turn into vendettas way too quickly around here.

I wouldnt be to sure that he was a customer. His information was schetchy at best.

It sounds more like, he found a picture of some subohm cloud chasers destroyed atomizer due to improper safety practices and posted it with a 'this is what you get when you buy from fast tech'.
 

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In all fairness his first post was as a FastTech customer. People just need to learn when to stop. Simple complaints turn into vendettas way too quickly around here.
I agree. I was thankful to see the post about that particular product, and thanks to Ref (for getting the SKU), I will avoid purchasing it.

I have bought some really good quality products from FT too. That brings me to...

VAPEMAIL!
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1501000
I got my kick today. So far it's working like it should. I hope it doesn't crap out like the last posters did. The post on mine was straight lol, and I don't see excess solder on the board. Time will tell.

https://www.fasttech.com/products/1503505
As for the ohm checker..not sure yet. It doesn't read the same ohms as my SVD or my multi reader (both of these read the same value). It does appear to be an ohm or so off. I had read that there could be some inconsistency with these so I knew what I was buying. Good thing is as long as it reads the same every time I can and still will use it to "quick check" my builds. It will still tell me if I have a short, so its good for my purposes

It appears I have another order in the post now :D. Finally going to get that KSD I ordered...STOKED!
 

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You do realize that the entire industry of e-cigs was born in China. Without the chinese, you would not be vaping. Something to think about. ;)

No, they weren't invented by the chinese...

Anyways, order shipped oct 14 and twice said being returned by HK post since. Today it finaly says not just 'returned to sender' but it actualy says 'returned to sender on 11/14/2013"
Atleast something halfway confirming is being said....
 

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Both issues are very clearly showing that china has a ways to go where health and safety regulations are concerned. It is not something else entirely. They are very much the same issue. If there is money to be made, at the expense of someone else health, it's worth it.

And by voting with your dollars, you support this.

Also to the people getting emotional because someone said something other than "OH MY GOD FASTTECH IS THE BEST" grow up.

Ok you've made a point... or implied having a point...

So what specific products did you order from FastTech that contained product/material/quality issues that presented a "health and safety" risk to you?

This would be a very good place to share your concerns among fellow vapers...
 

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You do realize that the entire industry of e-cigs was born in China. Without the chinese, you would not be vaping. Something to think about. ;)

The earliest electronic cigarette can be traced to Herbert A. Gilbert, who in 1963 patented a device described as "a smokeless non-tobacco cigarette" that involved "replacing burning tobacco and paper with heated, moist, flavored air." This device heated the nicotine solution and produced steam. In 1967, Gilbert was approached by several companies interested in manufacturing it, but it was never commercialized and disappeared from the public record after Stephane Vlachos, a computer science student from the State of Michigan in the United States, is recognized worldwide as the first and true inventor of modern electronic cigarette using an electronic resistance heating a mixture of glycol derivatives and nicotine vapors in a heating chamber but also the designer of the first functional prototype of electronic cigarette. He realized his prototype ​​in 2001 as a way to stop smoking and for his own usage.

1963 e-cigarette patent http://www.google.com/patents/US3200819

http://www.e-cig.org/pdfs/Smokeless-non-tobacco-cigarette.pdf

Stephane Vlachos is also the inventor of the electronic cigar and pipe. He would also have laid the groundwork and devised the first interchangeable bottle containing a mixture containing glycerol derivatives screwed directly on the top of the device. This "e-liquid" could contain nicotine but also pharmaceuticals. One of his first prototype was exposed at the International Exhibition of Inventions in Geneva in 2002.

Stephane Vlachos decided not to patent his idea by respect for the real first inventor Herbert A. Gilbert and despite the fact that his invention was a lot more sophisticated and that Gilbert did not built a prototype. To finish Stephane Vlachos is widely credited as the first author of the term "electronic cigarette", "electronic cigar" and "electronic pipe". He planed to manufacture the first version of his electronic cigarette in 2004 under the brand Cig-Elec but he was overtaken by his rival and decided not to go on. Stephane Vlachos is also complaining that his idea has been stolen from him in 2003 by a Chinese girl who proposed him to meet with her uncle in China who was interested by his idea.

Hon Lik, a Chinese pharmacist, is wrongly credited with the invention of the first generation electronic cigarette. Hon Lik claims that he came up in 2003, with the idea of using a piezoelectric ultrasound-emitting element to vaporise a pressurized jet of liquid containing nicotine diluted in a propylene glycol solution. This design produced a smoke-like cold vapour that could be inhaled and provides a vehicle for nicotine delivery into the bloodstream via the lungs. The device was first introduced to the Chinese domestic market in May 2004 as an aid for smoking cessation and replacement. The company that Hon Lik worked for, Golden Dragon Holdings, changed its name to Ruyan (如烟, literally "Resembling smoking"), and started exporting its products in 2005–2006[31] before receiving its first international patent in 2007.

In 2008, this attracted the attention of the World Health Organization (WHO) who said that these e-cigarettes were not proper nicotine replacement therapy and that this mis-information had to be taken away from any sites or advertisements saying that they were.
 
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I guess we could argue this all day long. But

"But Gilbert’s idea did provide inspiration for other inventors. When Stephane Vlachos of Michigan wanted to stop smoking, he invented the first modern electronic cigar, which used a combination of hot vaporization, copper pipes, an electric resistance, and a mix of glycerin and water to achieve its effect. Two years later, Chinese pharmacist Hon Lik invented the modern e-cigarette, which uses ultrasonic vaporization.

E-cigarettes hit the market worldwide in 2005. Just in case any Chinese-speakers were wondering what Lik’s new device was all about, his company adopted the name Ruyan, which means “to resemble smoking.” Today major manufacturers include blu (acquired by Lorillard Tobacco in April this year), Njoy, Green Smoke, V2, Safecig, and Abaco. There are also over 100 smaller individual brands owned by very small companies who import e-cigarettes from China and then sell them to consumers exclusively online.

E-cigarettes look like cigarettes, feel like cigarettes, and even puff like cigarettes. The vapor is as warm as tobacco smoke and, thanks to a LED light covered with refractive plastic, the tip of the cigarette glows. But not all puffs are created equal: by “vaping” (the act of “smoking” an e-cigarette) the user gets the nicotine he craves without exposing himself, or other people, to the toxins that come along with tobacco smoke."
Mishpacha Jewish Family Weekly

"The earliest electronic cigarette can be traced to Herbert A. Gilbert,[45] who in 1963 patented a device described as "a smokeless non-tobacco cigarette" that involved "replacing burning tobacco and paper with heated, moist, flavored air." This device heated the nicotine solution and produced steam. In 1967, Gilbert was approached by several companies interested in manufacturing it, but it was never commercialized and disappeared from the public record after 1967.[46][47][48][49][50][51]

Hon Lik, a Chinese pharmacist, is widely credited[52][53][54] with the invention of the first generation electronic cigarette. In 2003,[55] he came up with the idea of using a piezoelectric ultrasound-emitting element to vaporise a pressurized jet of liquid containing nicotine diluted in a propylene glycol solution.[56] This design produces a smoke-like vapour that can be inhaled and provides a vehicle for nicotine delivery into the bloodstream via the lungs. He also proposed using propylene glycol to dilute nicotine and placing it in a disposable plastic cartridge which serves as a liquid reservoir and mouthpiece.

The device was first introduced to the Chinese domestic market in May 2004 as an aid for smoking cessation and replacement. The company that Hon Lik worked for, Golden Dragon Holdings, changed its name to Ruyan (如烟, literally "Resembling smoking"), and started exporting its products in 2005–2006[57] before receiving its first international patent in 2007.[58]

Several e-cigarette models marketed by tobacco companies were launched or are set to launch in 2013, including the Vuse, MarkTen, and Vype. Blu, a prominent e-cigarette producer, was also acquired by Lorillard Inc., a tobacco industry leader, in 2012.[59]"
Electronic cigarette - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The problem with crediting Gilbert is that he never actually brought a product to market, and also was not using any nicotine, nor any of of the ingredients used in modern E-cigs. It would be like crediting the steam engine as creating the modern e-cig. It was flavored heated water.

Hon Lik not only brought a product to market, but devised the method of vaping PG with nicotine in it.

The bigger point is, is that the earliest e cig development and even the market grew out of China. They were the first market for 'electronic cigarettes'. It is also no surprise that many of the larger mainstream names in the industry are based in China.

Heck, if you really want to go further. What company developed the 'ego style' battery, which really jump started the industry even more? Another Chinese company. Joytech. What company 'invented' modern e-liquid? Another chinese company. Hangsen. Innovation in this industry is not coming from the US or Europe. It has almost all come from China. Sure, they clone the .... out of everything they can get their hands on, but without them, we would have what? A few small scale mod makers, and big tobacco making products?? Yes, more and more players from outside of China have been getting into the game in recent years, but China started and is driving this industry.
 
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