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Not enough new features to justify the cost. Not even variable wattage. Maybe in the next software upgrade, and yes they are software upgradable, at least that's what the web site says. Also, just how much technology do we need in an e-cig. What's next? Computerized TP dispensers, count the sheets and efficiency of the wipe. Don't get me wrong, I want one but, just cause I am a tech nut and they look cool. Not bad enough to spend the bucks. What do you all think the actual price will be? list is $139.

I do believe that this device is VV and VW ...
The price will be up to $200 ???
For that kind of money what is the warranty?

According to the joyetech website the device is VV and VW however I don't see anywhere on the site how to increase/decrease the power.
The pics show the steps required to change the voltage. How do you adjust the output power?

" b. You can adjust the output power from 2.0W to 15W and
the output voltage from 3.0V to 5.0V by yourself."

Additionally you can purchase the control head only ---> good idea. This way you don't need a new kit in the event a replacement is required. $100 USD head only.

You can download the full manual here:

Joyetech Manual Download

The menu items are <Power Set> and <Output> then adjust two digits and decimal. Default is 05.2 watts.
 

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I agree with you Mindfield, but I also disagree.

yes, variable is nice, for those of us that want it. but is it actually necessary?

You have your approach and i have mine, none are wrong , but neither is perfect.
As long as we spread the love, its all good :toast:

I've been trying to convert my Mom for almost a year now. I agree with you Buzzkilla. If it's not simple and easy it won't get used. I got her a nice burgundy 510 with a black PPC. She like everything about it except taking it a part to put it away. She also wasn't thrilled with filling with the carts with that darn polyfill. I just got the eRoll and showed it to her this weekend and she thought it was much better. But she also made the comment about where you keep extra tanks and or liquid.

But I'll make this observation. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Same thing with smokers. You can lead them there but they will try it when they want. The eRoll isn't the best device (I'm thinking flavour here) but is probably getting to be the best thing for a new vaper. I haven't tried the Redds kit but heard it's really good.

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Vaporus is guessing 2-3 weeks, so everyone should have it out by then give or take a week unless something goes wrong. ( http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canada-suppliers/354415-lavatube-robust-vamo-more-now-stock-vaporus-com.html )

I think I'll put off buying the Vamo and go for batteries and a charger for now and save my money for this and risk the bugs. Joyetech has a pretty reputation of not releasing total crap, well aside from the 510-t, EGO-T ... and E-CAB .. :) .. they still have a better reputation than clones !

I'm guessing charging a 2600 mah 18650 over usb is going to be 12+ hours, but .. at least it comes with a decent 18650 from the looks o it. :) So us cheap .. er frugal people can guy the eVic and get more batteries and a charger separately and cheaper.
 

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I think I'll put off buying the Vamo and go for batteries and a charger for now and save my money for this and risk the bugs. Joyetech has a pretty reputation of not releasing total crap, well aside from the 510-t, EGO-T ... and E-CAB .. :) .. they still have a better reputation than clones !

I'm guessing charging a 2600 mah 18650 over usb is going to be 12+ hours, but .. at least it comes with a decent 18650 from the looks o it. :) So us cheap .. er frugal people can guy the eVic and get more batteries and a charger separately and cheaper.

According to the manual it takes approximately 3 hours to charge with the built in charger. I guess it is optimized for this particular battery.

I agree that it would take a long time with most regular chargers because they have to keep the amps low to accommodate many different battery types.
 

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I think I'll put off buying the Vamo and go for batteries and a charger for now and save my money for this and risk the bugs. Joyetech has a pretty reputation of not releasing total crap, well aside from the 510-t, EGO-T ... and E-CAB .. :) .. they still have a better reputation than clones !

Personally I'm not going to hold the T's and eCAB against them. The T's were experimental and just happened not to work very well. The eCAB was a kind of weird ....... child that didn't really fit comfortably anywhere. But I have to admit that despite more than a year of stagnation and resting on the laurels of their wildly popular eGo line, they've come back with a vengeance this year with the Twist to bring real VV to the eGo crowd, the eRoll which turned out to be a surprisingly respectable super-mini tank kit and besting most of the rest of the slims out there, and now this eVic, which is without a doubt the most high-tech PV in existence right now. And I tend to put some fair trust in them that their releases will generally be of high quality even for a 1.0 -- but even if there are bugs in the eVic, it's software-upgradable, so unless the "bugs" are hardware in nature, they can be ironed out with a firmware update.

I'd like to know if the display is OLED of VFD though. It looks like OLED based on the mild flicker I see in the one (German) video I've seen on it, but it's hard to say.
 

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Very interesting but the USB port ..... when plugged in you charge ... can version updates (how?) .... do we get an app on the computer for data download from the device to the computer? Is there any information available for what the computer screen interface looks like? can we make our settings from the computer when connected with the USB? and if the latter is true why to heck does't it have a bluetooth so I can do that from my phone instead of the tiny little display on the device? If your going geeky, go all the way!
 

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Very interesting but the USB port ..... when plugged in you charge ... can version updates (how?) .... do we get an app on the computer for data download from the device to the computer? Is there any information available for what the computer screen interface looks like? can we make our settings from the computer when connected with the USB? and if the latter is true why to heck does't it have a bluetooth so I can do that from my phone instead of the tiny little display on the device? If your going geeky, go all the way!

Yes, you can download the MVR (My Vapor Record) software (Windows only) that will download stats from your PV, let you graph your stats, and also download and install any firmware updates that may be available for the eVic. The software (and some screenshots) are here.

Its lack of wireless connectivity is probably a cost issue; it would probably end up costing an extra $20 or more at the retail level if you had that extra hardware in there.
 

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in the instruction manual, its MAX is at 5V....
I have a Kick and am used to adjusting watts... for all the voltage guys , does this seem low?

i'm assuming that the modders section is going to have to create a new sub directory for software....
eVic hacked firmware update, anyone?

maybe then i would consider buying one... i just really hate the "how many puffs" nonsense that was added in, to an otherwise functional menu.
 

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Thanks Mindfield. I also just had a look at the german video for the first time too. The software (MVR) doesn't show the data for the currently attached atty/carto and doesn't show current device settings like voltage/watt. It would also be cool if you could get historical battery data.

It's sort of hard to tell from that video frankly. I think it's something I'm going to have to play with to get a proper understanding of everything, so we'll see how it all plays out when it arrives.

in the instruction manual, its MAX is at 5V....
I have a Kick and am used to adjusting watts... for all the voltage guys , does this seem low?

i'm assuming that the modders section is going to have to create a new sub directory for software....
eVic hacked firmware update, anyone?

maybe then i would consider buying one... i just really hate the "how many puffs" nonsense that was added in, to an otherwise functional menu.

I did find it a bit of an odd thing that its max in voltage mode is 5V, but in power mode it can do 15W, which tells me should be capable of doing more than 5V, but it isn't. Maybe that's something they can address in a firmware update -- they did mention that this first 1.0 version is really just a test, so maybe one of the next versions could up the voltage max to 6V.

The puff counter thing ... I think that's probably largely a cultural thing in China where they probably care more about that sort of thing than we tend to. I never pay attention to it except as a secondary or tertiary indicator of vape time over battery charge level.
 

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I did find it a bit of an odd thing that its max in voltage mode is 5V, but in power mode it can do 15W, which tells me should be capable of doing more than 5V, but it isn't. Maybe that's something they can address in a firmware update -- they did mention that this first 1.0 version is really just a test, so maybe one of the next versions could up the voltage max to 6V.

The puff counter thing ... I think that's probably largely a cultural thing in China where they probably care more about that sort of thing than we tend to. I never pay attention to it except as a secondary or tertiary indicator of vape time over battery charge level.

makes sense... i guess they are testing the waters to see if the mod can handle the abuse without frying any circuits.

never thought about the puff counter from a cultural view, i'll stick with the mL units.
4mL & 1800mAh a day, works for me :laugh:
 

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makes sense... i guess they are testing the waters to see if the mod can handle the abuse without frying any circuits.

Possibly -- although if it works fine at 15W there's no reason it shouldn't at 6V. Although if you think about it, 15W is 15W no matter what carto you have attached, whereas 6V on a 2ohm carto (18W) could burn the crap out of it.

never thought about the puff counter from a cultural view, i'll stick with the mL units.
4mL & 1800mAh a day, works for me :laugh:

Puffs is a good marketing strategy in its own way. It's more granular and quantifiable on box callouts and in ads than the more nebulous ML. Granted, it doesn't take into account the voltage being used or the length of each puff, so in the end it's pretty meaningless, but like all quantifiable things in advertising, it's always a best-case scenario that never plays out that way in reality. Still though, I think China is more culturally inclined to regulate themselves in some activities, vaping being one of them, and a puff counter is a good way to determine your usage and regulate it as desired.
 
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