I equate this to cell phones. Do you want to use it for phone calls and texting? or do you want a smart phone, gimmicks and all? Knowing the buying public, I believe we want more gimmicks with a solid e-cig experience. This device will be reviewed and reviewed, if it is a solid ecig device, than the so called gimmicks become a must have. Being able to upgrade the software with my computer....I'm so into that.
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I equate this to cell phones. Do you want to use it for phone calls and texting? or do you want a smart phone, gimmicks and all? Knowing the buying public, I believe we want more gimmicks with a solid e-cig experience. This device will be reviewed and reviewed, if it is a solid ecig device, than the so called gimmicks become a must have. Being able to upgrade the software with my computer....I'm so into that.
now if only you could play angry birds on it!!! tracking program built in great, the more advanced the ecig the better, they should make one that's a mobile hotspot then im sold!!!, the more bells and whistles the better, who doesn't like gadgets!! better yet, why not just make a smartphone with a 510 connection and drip well on it!!!! <----- rights to the idea!!!!
And if you get this too you can vape the charger while charging the eVic ... http://www.vaporbeast.com/Cylapex_p/sk29.htm?Click=391... kind of looks like an Iphone
I don't know about you but I had modified one of my CD/DVD empty drive covers to hold a car style cigarette lighter that ran of my Computers powersupply, so when I had my analogs at the computer I always had a light
I don't know about you but I had modified one of my CD/DVD empty drive covers to hold a car style cigarette lighter that ran of my Computers powersupply, so when I had my analogs at the computer I always had a light
+1 for shades... that's hardcore....
Well I as always modifying my computer and I would be lying if I didnt say similar thoughts for a pv hadn't come to mind many a time
Well this is all great. But none of the Chinese companies have come out with the thing that we really all need. An atomizer with a wicking system that never, ever needs to be replaced. Now if Joyetech came out with that I would be really impressed. Sorry folks the inventors are focusing on the wrong thing here ...
It does look nice, one thing is for sure ... Make sure you never, ever drop it! I wonder what the warranty is?
And now that I am on a roll (more like a b!#&ch session) what about a compact battery that really, really has some mAh to it?
These are the things I need, I don't need a mod with a operating system. Besides, I work with computers (the day job). Last thing I want to do at home is fiddle and fart around with something that needs to interface with my pc
It does look nice, one thing is for sure ... Make sure you never, ever drop it! I wonder what the warranty is?
And now that I am on a roll (more like a b!#&ch session) what about a compact battery that really, really has some mAh to it?
These are the things I need, I don't need a mod with a operating system. Besides, I work with computers (the day job). Last thing I want to do at home is fiddle and fart around with something that needs to interface with my pc
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Well this is all great. But none of the Chinese companies have come out with the thing that we really all need. An atomizer with a wicking system that never, ever needs to be replaced. Now if Joyetech came out with that I would be really impressed. Sorry folks the inventors are focusing on the wrong thing here ...
It does look nice, one thing is for sure ... Make sure you never, ever drop it! I wonder what the warranty is?
And now that I am on a roll (more like a b!#&ch session) what about a compact battery that really, really has some mAh to it?
These are the things I need, I don't need a mod with a operating system. Besides, I work with computers (the day job). Last thing I want to do at home is fiddle and fart around with something that needs to interface with my pc
Agreed. But making an atomizer/wick that never breaks is like making a car that lasts 30 years. It isn't good for business.
Interesting times indeed. I appreciate all the advances especially after hearing the experiences of the veterans here from as little as a year ago.
+100 to focusing on attys and delivery systems. It doesn't have to last forever but it should be consistent. No wick trimming, no 'this doesn't work for vg', no 'you have to tilt', etc. We are going against analogs - buy a pack, light up the right end and you are good to go each and every time.
IMHO, this is not a zmax killer if it comes in at $139 US. Zmax's are around $80-$100 right now. IF the build quality is good, I'd say it would be competition (not killer) to the provari. I know aura that surrounds the provari and I do plan on getting one but they have to keep up as well. I own a zmax but not 100% happy with the quality - I'd say if it should be around $60 retail (not through co-op).
Again, just 'spoilled' and humble opinion from a new vaper...
+100 to focusing on attys and delivery systems. It doesn't have to last forever but it should be consistent. No wick trimming, no 'this doesn't work for vg', no 'you have to tilt', etc. We are going against analogs - buy a pack, light up the right end and you are good to go each and every time.
IMHO, this is not a zmax killer if it comes in at $139 US. Zmax's are around $80-$100 right now. IF the build quality is good, I'd say it would be competition (not killer) to the provari. I know aura that surrounds the provari and I do plan on getting one but they have to keep up as well. I own a zmax but not 100% happy with the quality - I'd say if it should be around $60 retail (not through co-op).
Again, just 'spoilled' and humble opinion from a new vaper...
Unfortunately you're battling physics here. E-liquid contains synthetic and natural glycols, plus flavourings. All of these things ultimately burn and gunk up whatever is vaporising them. Unless you can come up with some sort of super hydrophobic heating coil that won't burn off its hydrophobic coating, and come up with a wick system that somehow manages to mechanically suck up liquid while at the same time repelling it, there's just no getting around the fundamental workings of physics.
I'm not saying it's impossible -- it may indeed be possible to come up with a system that feeds straight liquid without a wick to a super hydrophobic heating coil that won't burn off its hydrophobic coating, but that kind of massively high tech stuff is going to be beyond the realm of E-cigarettes for the foreseeable future.
Again, you're arguing against physics here. Batteries are a simple combination of two different materials (usually metal salts and/or carbon) that react when a circuit is completed. When that happens, the ions from one material to pass through to the other, the act of which creates an electric current. (This is a somewhat simplified explanation.) The problem is one of energy density; different combinations of metals make for a different energy density -- the overall charge capacity of the cell. Right now, lithium ion polymer batteries (lithium and carbon) have the greatest energy density for their size, and there are variations on the lithium formula that meet other special needs, such as lithium-manganese (IMR batteries, high discharge rate but lower energy density), lithium-cobalt, lithium-iron-phosphate, and so on. Until a new combination is discovered that provides an even higher energy density while still being able to provide the needed voltage output and low internal resistance to supply the current required, then this is what we've got to work with.
I learned of these yesterday, and I have to admit, the gadget head in me has a raging pants tent right now. I know, I see some complaints about these things getting too complicated, but I think there's a lot of benefit here. Even apart from the dual VV/VW modes and dual charging modes (on-board or external), the fact that it has the ability to have its firmware upgraded over the PC to add or improve features is a major leap forward, meaning you won't have to buy another "version" of a device just because it has a few new features -- they can be added or upgraded on-board. The only limitations are physical, now, and that's kind of game-changing.
I'll have one for review whenever they become available, so I'm going to love giving this thing a workout.
I'll have one for review whenever they become available, so I'm going to love giving this thing a workout.
Good info and a great reply as always by the PV master. Actually, I am aware of and concur with the replies to my post.
All I wanted to do here is generate discussion and it seems I have succeeded.
BTW, didn't Boge have something about a year ago that connected to your PC?
Not enough new features to justify the cost. Not even variable wattage. Maybe in the next software upgrade, and yes they are software upgradable, at least that's what the web site says. Also, just how much technology do we need in an e-cig. What's next? Computerized TP dispensers, count the sheets and efficiency of the wipe. Don't get me wrong, I want one but, just cause I am a tech nut and they look cool. Not bad enough to spend the bucks. What do you all think the actual price will be? list is $139.
I do believe that this device is VV and VW ...
The price will be up to $200 ???
For that kind of money what is the warranty?
I do recall something along those lines, though I can't for the life of me remember who reviewed it or what specific features it had. I recall thinking that it was an interesting gimmick but really didn't do very much that I would have considered truly useful, and it certainly wasn't upgradable over the web.
MSRP is US $139, but I'm hearing rumours that Joyetech may allow pricing to be as low as $104. Don't quote me on that though, it's just a rumour at this point.
As for the technology -- well, that depends on the consumer, really. Yes, I tend to see the eVic being aimed more at the higher end, more hardcore vaper, but it also seems like they're trying to make it simpler and intuitive to use; the plain English menu system, the power ring (looks to be a spring-loaded momentary switch rather than a dial), the on-board charging circuit ... it seems like they're trying to demystify and make more approachable the often ambiguous nature of big-battery VV devices and make them more intelligible to the slightly more average vaper who's interested in a proper high capacity VV mod, while at the same time offering a plethora of high end features.
If a vendor wants to send me one I'll be happy to review it, but so far I haven't had such an offer, and I'm not sure I want to shell out for one myself.
According to the Joyetech website the device is VV and VW however I don't see anywhere on the site how to increase/decrease the power.
The pics show the steps required to change the voltage. How do you adjust the output power?
" b. You can adjust the output power from 2.0W to 15W and
the output voltage from 3.0V to 5.0V by yourself."
Additionally you can purchase the control head only ---> good idea. This way you don't need a new kit in the event a replacement is required. $100 USD head only.
The pics show the steps required to change the voltage. How do you adjust the output power?
" b. You can adjust the output power from 2.0W to 15W and
the output voltage from 3.0V to 5.0V by yourself."
Additionally you can purchase the control head only ---> good idea. This way you don't need a new kit in the event a replacement is required. $100 USD head only.
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