The Holy Grail of e-cigs

[cyberwolf]

I still want to try bottom feeding and variable voltage mods, but the eGo with LR atties and dripping has provided the best satisfaction yet. The combination of flavor and throat hit is what I was looking for, all in a compact and reliable device. I absolutely agree with SimpleSins, though, every persons holy grail is different.

 

[Doug_Dread]

I contacted Smoore and they are willing to mod a 900mAh batt for me to fit their M201 atomiser. Discussions are in progress and I've also enquired whether they have the 900mAh USB batts that could be so modded. Now THAT would be my holy grail!!

 

[Strigoi]

dripping w/ my Chuck at 3.7v and an LR 510 atty is perfect for me right now.

 

[MXBNW]

My Holy Grail REO 6ml bottle 18650 batteries with a 510LR Atty. Been on it all day and am on my second bottle of juice without changing the battery. Now it may not be a good on the run mod but for at the desk this thing can’t be beet.

But I just got a GG Transformer and AFS that takes a 18650 battery and holds 6ml of juice and that may be my on the go mod. Just my 2c.or if you can find one get a UMP my Mr. Puffer it holds a 3ml bottle and takes a 14500 battery seams to do well as my on the run mod.

Any way Big battery and juice feed systems are becoming my best bet for low maintenance and best performance.

Just my 2c

 

[Surf Monkey]

The only thing I've found that comes close is the Prodigy V2, and even it suffers from many of the same problems that other devices do. Frankly, I think there need to be advances not just in liquid delivery to the atomizer but in atomizer tech itself. They're too inconsistent and the standard crop running at 3.7v just don't do it for me. I've got to have 5v or better. Low resistance atomizers don't seem to be cutting it for me either. They just don't pack the same punch that standards at 5v do.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

...the standard crop running at 3.7v just don't do it for me. I've got to have 5v or better. Low resistance atomizers don't seem to be cutting it for me either. They just don't pack the same punch that standards at 5v do.

That's been my experience also. I've come to believe that the oft-repeated phrase simulated 5V vaping is nonsense, but 3.7V with an LR atty does have its place; When my deeply saturated 6V flavors get to be overpowering, I'll break things up with 3.7V and a good menthol flavor.

 

[kylewinther]

maybe it was their e-cig atomizers, maybe they were not meant to last.

 

[Doug_Dread]

Smoore renaged on their offer to supply me with a battery to fit my M201 atomisers, so I've bought an eGo 650mAh USB 'vape while I charge' battery and Mega XL atomiser to try. Wow, this thing rocks! Could be Holy Grailish if it continues to perform so well.

I can use the M201 atomisers with the aid of a 510/801 adapter, but the restricted airflow overheats the atomiser and ruins it in a few days. My dealer agreed to swap out my spare, new and unused, M201 atomiser collection for e-juice, so it's bye bye M201when my last atties/batts expire.

 

[Automaton]

That's been my experience also. I've come to believe that the oft-repeated phrase simulated 5V vaping is nonsense, but 3.7V with an LR atty does have its place; When my deeply saturated 6V flavors get to be overpowering, I'll break things up with 3.7V and a good menthol flavor.

Were you using the LR on a 3.2v device, or a true 3.7v? I learned something new the other day, thanks fo Biffo...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-wanted-know-plus-bit-electronic-theory.html

...A true 3.7v with an LR is almost equal to 5v with a regular atty in the actual power output, which is what matters - not the voltage. If it was a 3.2v PV, the power output would be somewhat lower.

 

[librarising]

Right now I am vaping with my holy grail. Riva battery with a ce2 r3.5 carto (not modded), filled with DIY vanilla custard. Will it be my holy grail in 5 minutes? I don't know because the unreliability of these cartos. This one came out of a box where 2 were defective. I thought the r4 could be my holy grail and I tried my 1st and disappointed with the inconsistant taste and wicking. I'm being led to believe it would be better at a higher ohm than I have. So now I have to wait to try that and keep fingers, toes crossed that the carto I'm using now won't die anytime soon.

You see, I don't ask for much. I'm an addict, not a hobbyist or connoisseur (in 40+ yrs only smoked 3 brands of cigs), in need of a simple, satisfying, non-messy, fix.

 

[Chalie_Champ]

I've been vaping and off analogs for 10 months now so e-cigs are doing their job well. However, I must confess to getting really tired of the constant battle for a decent vape. Always fiddling with intrinsically unreliable devices and their flawed components in a often vain attempt to keep them operating optimally.

Vaping would be far more enjoyable and hugely cheaper than smoking if only we could find the Holy Grail of e-cigs; an e-cig that gives fabulous flavour, huge vapour and 100% reliability.

My Twisp (Janty) Stick has many advantages but suffers from unreliable bodies (swopped out the body 3 times in the 3 month warranty period), and is very low on flavour. The flavour can be improved by converting to a 510 or fitting an M201 atomiser, but not enough.

My Smoore M201 is a flavour king and after using it, I can't vape the Stick anymore. However, the bulletproof old-design parts are no longer available and the new-design is horribly unreliable, eating expensive batteries and atomisers at an alarming rate.

Others I've tried and given up on are the 801 penstyle, the 510 in various forms and the J118.

So, has anyone found the Holy Grail of e-cigs?

LOOK ALL YOU NEED IS THE EgO WITH lr306 ATTYS AND A DRIP TIP, INCREDIBLE FLAVOR, AND HUGE HUGE HUGE VAPOR

 

[Automaton]

LOOK ALL YOU NEED IS THE EgO WITH lr306 ATTYS AND A DRIP TIP, INCREDIBLE FLAVOR, AND HUGE HUGE HUGE VAPOR

...For you.

I don't like LR's. Or dripping, generally speaking.

Everyone's Holy Grail is different. Glad you've found yours. But not everyone is going to agree with you.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

Were you using the LR on a 3.2v device, or a true 3.7v? I learned something new the other day, thanks fo Biffo...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-wanted-know-plus-bit-electronic-theory.html

...A true 3.7v with an LR is almost equal to 5v with a regular atty in the actual power output, which is what matters - not the voltage. If it was a 3.2v PV, the power output would be somewhat lower.

I once measured the device in question (a Riva), and (not under load) it was putting out 3.5V and change. I've used different LR atties from different manufacturers, and there doesn't seem to be a consensus on what low means in terms of ohms. Bottom line, I've been on shifting sands.

Meanwhile, I've been shifting myself. I have to admit, after scraping my soul clean, that part of my motivation for vaping at 6V (whatever the wattage worked out to) was the fact that I could. It was a novelty. I was seduced by the creamy, super-abundant vapor; yeah, the flavors were saturated down to their socks, but those socks were singed around the edges.

These days, I've mellowed to a 18650 3.7V power source (it's more like 4.0V when fresh off the charger) and a standard atty.

 

[Automaton]

I once measured the device in question (a Riva), and (not under load) it was putting out 3.5V and change. I've used different LR atties from different manufacturers, and there doesn't seem to be a consensus on what low means in terms of ohms. Bottom line, I've been on shifting sands.

Meanwhile, I've been shifting myself. I have to admit, after scraping my soul clean, that part of my motivation for vaping at 6V (whatever the wattage worked out to) was the fact that I could. It was a novelty. I was seduced by the creamy, super-abundant vapor; yeah, the flavors were saturated down to their socks, but those socks were singed around the edges.

These days, I've mellowed to a 18650 3.7V power source (it's more like 4.0V when fresh off the charger) and a standard atty.

Yup, that's true. I've heard everything from 2.5ohm to 1.5ohm referred to as "LR." It also apparently varies from atty to atty, although I, being completely disinterested in high-power vaping, have never bothered to check.

6v vaping... I think that might actually kill me. Kudos to you for surviving.

 

[Gizmo362]

My holey grail today is the Evercool. (a Buzz clone) When my batterys come off the charger at 4.2V and quickly drops to around 3.7 volts then slowly die to 2.5V. After a while the vapor suffers. That causes me to flood my atty thinking I am out of liquid. When I set my Evercool 4V, it stays at the voltage setting and then stops when my batterys drop below the rated input. No more guessing. Always a consistent vape....Ah!

 

[Chalie_Champ]

uhhh whats that i cANT FIND IT WHEN I DO A SEARCH FOR IT....EVERCOOL 4V....HMM I AM INTERESTED.

 

[texastumbleweed]

eGo with mega cylindrical cartridge and mega cylindrical atomizer and 900mah battery

 

[librarising]

eGo with mega cylindrical cartridge and mega cylindrical atomizer and 900mah battery

That's almost a holy grail for me but the mega cart often leaks or sometimes dries out in the front of the cart, and I have to keep tending it..

 

[BuzzKill]

My Holy Grail is a big CUP , I think the French have it ???

Everybody has their individual needs and wants so yours is yours and mine is mine

 

[Gizmo362]

uhhh whats that i cANT FIND IT WHEN I DO A SEARCH FOR IT....EVERCOOL 4V....HMM I AM INTERESTED.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/114901-evercool-variable-voltage-mod.html