The Iken Cannon on Bottom feeders

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mwa102464

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I've been using these for a while now and there just a super Atty, they don't flood and produce great flavor like the 801 is known for but with the bottom end being a 510 it seems to make a great deal of a difference, especially on all of my bottom feeder mods, are others having the same great experience as I am with these awesome Atty's :2cool:?
 

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i just got to mine today mwa... it's on my Vari at 4.5v. for about an hour or two of vaping.
I really like it... for all the reasons you said already; lots of vapor and taste, but i have yet to fully get used to it:
1. I put wide mouth d/t because the whistle tip kept getting some juice in the mouth piece, so that wide tip is strange.
2. the draw is really airy, but much better than the tight draw i got from the the mini LR 801's when i was using them. it makes for better at at least 4v and up so you don't have to draw as much.

I don't have any bottom feeders, as i sent my Phid back to Fono for some rehab... but i'll sure try it out as soon as it gets back.
 

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I have tried one my Grand and mini, 1.8 stealth canon. I haven't tried the 2.0 silver canon I have yet. I Squonk and the juice goes in the atty, then comes back out and fills the catch cup to the brim not allowing air to get into the atty. I then remove the canon and blow it out, clean out the well, and repeat this process.
 

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Allot of things will play havoc on attys:
  • liquid viscosity is the biggest one;
  • flavour;
  • equipment used; and
  • method used.

They were designed to be dripped, and although some have had some success with bottom feeders, were not designed with bottom feeders in mind. Bottom feeders have their own set of problems:
  • if the pin is too long = will short out the atty if it come into contact with the coil. I have done this with others attys. I have also had attys that simply did not work on the device, but yet worked flawlessly on others;
  • for feeders not using the pin, if the contact point is not totally sealed = may not be delivering the liquid to where it needs to go; and
  • liquid viscosity.

There is a myriad of things that may or may not go wrong with an atomiser dependent on the aforementioned reasons. If individuals only have "A" device then I can see potential problems. OTOH before embarking on the next rainbow, folks should wait a little for some feedback? e.g. The first one I fired was the 1.8 stealth on the Omega with an 18650 = yuck! This was a live review during a conference call. I switched devices and moved it to my 3.7V boxmod = :) Does that make it a bad atty, or one that needs to be vaped at lower current? OTOH the Omega is equipped with the 3.5Ohm for HV vaping.

Contrary to popular belief, one size does not fit all unfortunately and this can be seen with all the attys out there and not limited to the IKV line. Take for example the controversy with the CE2s, for the love of God I personally can't see why anyone would rave about them, but hey those who like 'em like 'em allot and I am cool with that.

In the case of the Cannons they do not perform like the 801 shortys. Why? They are not 801s. Do they have their place in someones vaping arsenal? I would say yes, they do in mine. Do I prefer them over the shortys? No. BUT that is not saying much because the variance is but one or two tenths of a point in favour of the 801s. 2 different atomisers for 2 different purposes. Once size does not fit all.

Hope this helps...

In closing one atty that never made it out of the blocks was the 306 tank, yet some folks rave about these, They are known and sold as mini tank systems, just goes to show you what some vendors know about the gear they sell. At less than 0.5ml capacity, that is not a tank!

Was Isaac disappointed when I showed him the pics of the LR 1.6 clearomizer that I scorched? You bet! OTOH reports were out there wrt this problem. The dual coil did not scorched perse but upon post mortem heavy discoloration of the sock was evident and scorching would have ensued sooner or later IMO. Folks do indeed rave about them, they are simply not for me and my vaping style (flavour). At 6V the DC provided a reckless TH, for folks that seek TH this puppy will get you there :)

I am also a realist when it comes to cartomisers. I do not expect them to last for weeks/months, it was never the intent in the design. It is something that was placed upon them from the over enthusiastic and demanding vaping community?
 
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I don't use atty's. Usually a Fusion, mega-808 and recently, some duel-coils to see if they were for me.

Regardless, I read all of your discussions such as this one on atty's just to increase my knowledge of vaping and how to properly use the various types of equipment available to us. Each time you write one of these, its a learning experience for me as I'm sure it is for many other people.

So I guess this is just a pretty long note to simply say "thank you" and please, keep educating us!

TT
 

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You are welcome TT. I do my best to offer sobering perspectives at times. I will openly admit that I am not an IKV fanboy perse, but he is the only supplier I purchase atties and cartos from, for all previously stated reasons throughout this sub. I like mom & pop shops, especially those that deliver what has spoiled many :)
 

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for those that drip, hey i guess that's what this is for...

i have a 2.5 Ohm Cannon and it looks like one... with a narrow 510 connection. The voluminous barrel, although short in stature, is a smoke stack!
Is that good? yep,,, but what I find is the draw, on my Provari, is very airy. Combined with the wide wide mouth on the 801 stub delrin d/t i put on it, i think it's a superT wide contour (the whistle tip cap that it came with gets juice in it) makes for an unusual pull...
I work it at anywhere from 3.9v to 4.5v so far.
Being it's new, it's really cool, but i prefer the narrower 510/901 barrel, and with a good vv, the vapor production is similar.
As far as taste, the TH is cool... just how i like it.
Overall, the wideness of the d/t is a downside... maybe a narrow tip fitted for 801, and one that doesn't pull juice vapor condensate into the mouth, and i'd be very happy with it....
 

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i used the 2.5 ohm on the vvpv prototype and it almost put out more vapor than i can handle. It is a fog machine for sure and i'm not an atty user normally either. I'll die a happy man with a fusion in my hand but these are exceptionally great attys.

what voltage are you using the fusions on?
 
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