The Kick by Sigelei?

[double_aa_ron]

Anyone see this yet?

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Looks like they cloning the kick.

 

[cardenio]

I just read about this from ........, can't wait to compare this one(when the kick becomes about 15 bucks everyone should buy like 4 knockoffs, such a good product!) to my actual kick that i could'nt afford to buy more than one of. Although i always think how ...... everyone must be at sigelei... those 40-50 new mechanicals they just came out with ripped off almost every mechanical design i've ever seen too.. All hail the king of the knockoffs

 

[crxess]

So, has anyone actually confirmed this is a clone and not a Venture put together by Evolv and Sigelei?
Just seems to make since to mass market for 4-8x sales volume @ one tenth the expense.
Personally I'd be happy with that. Coops here we come!

 

[Cjax]

I would almost more assume this is a joint venture rather than a direct copy. I can't see Sigelei marketing it as "by Evolv" if it weren't. I'd think if they were to try and steal credit, they'd steal ALL the credit. They'd say "Kicked by Sigelei". Either way, I'll be stalking the coops forum and picking up a couple of these for backups!

 

[t8kiteasy]

This might be china's knock off of the kick that was posted a couple of months ago called the "Stomp",i believe??

 

[Absintheur]

Sigelei has cloned almost every mech mod maker out there...why wouldn't they just use a stock Evolv pic to advertise yet another design clone? Obviously they missed the class on ethics...

 

[Cjax]

Sigelei has cloned almost every mech mod maker out there...why wouldn't they just use a stock Evolv pic to advertise yet another design clone? Obviously they missed the class on ethics...

It's not just in the pics, though. It's everywhere throughout their description as well. I'm not saying it's legit, and yes they have been known to use authentic pics of things they clone, but like when they made their Zen clones they didn't write "by Zen" in the description.

 

[cardenio]

if it's called "the stomp" Sigelei is a company of trolls

 

[double_aa_ron]

As long as it works reliably for a decent price I don't care. I've all but given up on the Kick by Evolv. I have three of them and only one of them works properly. If I can get the same product for $20 cheaper I'm all for it.

 

[double_aa_ron]

Just a thought, but what if Sigelli isn't making a direct clone. What if they are making something that goes up to 15 watts instead of 10, or maybe they are making one that changes volts instead of watts.

 

[Lavaca5]

Given the slew of new mechanicals they've just put on the market, it makes a lot of sense that they would team up with Evolv on the Kick. I love the look and size of the mech mods, but I only like using them with the Kick. At this price point, each mech can have its own - no swapping. Hear that whooshing noise? That's the sound of my Vamo flying out the window

 

[neofelis]

I think you'll find that all along The Kick was made in china.. If makers say It's designed in USA they can some how justify charging $50 for a $3 item.

All Evolv ever said was that "We have partnered with Dimension Engineering and are releasing a Modder’s Board version of our Power Regulated technology. This will bring our Power Regulation to a more customizable format for various creative applications."

No where did it EVER state, Made in USA. It's all in the dishonest writing.

I've heard of many people were never happy with the product for X, Y, Z reasons. Maybe the new price point of $10 will be more appealing?

A co-op was just done on these so I'll post back with more info on these soon.

 

[cardenio]

maybe i got lucky, my original kick works so good... damn lol.

 

[Oktyabr]

I'm one of those guys who just doesn't get why anyone would want to kick a mech in the first place. I mean, a 10w limit and the first gen kicks cost more than a vamo!?!? HEY! Don't throw your vamo out the window! Send it to ME!!!

BUT that's off topic. The main reason I'm posting in this thread... and this is just pure speculation on my part... is that I believe Sigelei is flooding the mech market in an attempt to pretty much become the Vamo of the mech world. Just as good as competing products at a lower price. Flooding a market means cutting per unit profit margins drastically and relying on market share to make up for it. I think they are doing that with mechs and it wouldn't surprise me if they did a joint venture with Evolv on these new kicks for the same reason. Remember, just because it has a lower price does not necessarily mean the quality of components and craftsmanship is equally low.

 

[Lavaca5]

I kid about the Vamo - I'm actually fond of it, although it's awfully big and clunky compared to my Kicked Chi Chi. That was just my way of making basically the same argument you did. Mechs are the hot item right now, for both the sub-ohmers, who obviously wouldn't want a Kick, and folks like me who dig the form factor of the mechs but need a little extra oomph to compensate for a little extra resistance. Sigelei + Evolv = something for everybody. And yeah, I know - I should just get a Zmax V3. In fact ... could you excuse me for a moment, please?

 

[Oktyabr]

LOL! I love my vamo too. I love my un-kicked mech MORE

Of course I'm having to vape liquid with only half the nicotine and sometimes those gigantic clouds of SLR vapor make it hard to see but everything has it's price.

 

[Lavaca5]

You must have a Braille keyboard . I do the sub-ohm thing from time to time, only I call it shorting out. If I ever learn to do it on purpose, then I can give up the Kick, too

 

[Oktyabr]

You must have a Braille keyboard . I do the sub-ohm thing from time to time, only I call it shorting out. If I ever learn to do it on purpose, then I can give up the Kick, too

It's really nothing magical. I just wrote an extensive post in the New Members section (yeah! really!) of the forum in defense of SLR vaping. TL;DR version: lower gauge wire = thicker wire and longer runs to better incorporate thicker wicks at a given resistance. Thicker wicks = more juice to the coil. Thicker wire also means a bigger contact area on the wick which translates to more juice being vaped up. Of course you need an *un*kicked mech, a good battery, and an RBA, usually modded to provide better airflow. I love it!

I posted that reply to my blog. You can read it here if you like:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/oktyabr/4045-noob-s-low-ohms-concerns.html

(SORRY! Didn't intend to high jack this thread!)

 

[muzichead]

I'm one of those guys who just doesn't get why anyone would want to kick a mech in the first place. I mean, a 10w limit and the first gen kicks cost more than a vamo!?!?

In response to the first part of your statement, people do it because they want a regulated vape from a mechanical device... As to the second part of your response, most Vamo, V/Zmax, Evic, & (insert any other failed VV/VW devices here), vape between 7-10 watts and are very happy with the vape. This is where just about any mechanical and an installed Kick come into play! Most people are curious about mechanical's and RBA's but don't either know how to or can't set them up properly and consistently to get the same vape they were getting with their VV/VW devices. You also have those people that don't have an interest in rebuilding their own coils, (for whatever reason), and would rather use just a standard atty or carto on their device and again this is where the Kick installed is the viable option for them.

I am one of those people that enjoys my vape at 9-10 watts and I can just set the Kick, install it, and vape happily, (and consistently), all day... I also own other mechanical's and have RBA's on them and have tried the sub-ohm coils and IMO, its nothing to write home about.

The same feeling you have about not understanding why someone would want to kick a mechanical, I don't understand why anyone would want to vape sub-ohm coils!!! To me its a step back in time, prior to VV/VW, with vaping and the draining of the battery leaving me with an unsatisfied vape and wanting to pick up an analog!!! At least with using the Kick installed I don't have that craving!!!

Something to remember, what makes your vape enjoyable to you is usually not going to be the same for someone else... Its not rocket science!!!

 

[t8kiteasy]

This is another topic that has been explained in another thread here.There are some of us that enjoy a mech. with a .5-.8 coil at certain times of the day.Then there are times of the day we prefer to use our kick in the mech. it's really simple.