The Lemo RTA: A Build With Pics

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WeirdWillie

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So why do you think the larger one taste better to you than the Drop? (I thought the only difference that might effect flavor is the length of the chimney?)

Yes personally I think it's because of the shorter chimney not concentrating the flavor quite as well as taller chimney.
 

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The opposite has been true for me. Maybe it has to do with our differing vape styles. I tend to vape in the 12-20 watt range. Also, you're using Nickel in TC mode. Maybe the big brother is better for that.

vaping style at this point is irrelevant and yes while it's true what I like in a vape may not be what you like but thats not the point.
What I'm attempting to do is a side by side one on one comparison of both using identical builds, identical juice, identical wicking with identical settings.
That said I still stand with my initial statement as is right now the drop does infact produce a more muted vape than big brother.
But in all fairness I do ntend to try both using a variety of identical builds at various different settings.
 

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Vaping style at this point is irrelevant and yes while it's true what I like in a vape may not be what you like but thats not the point.
What I'm attempting to do is a side by side one on one comparison of both using identical builds, identical juice, identical wicking with identical settings.
That said I still stand with my initial statement as is right now the drop does infact produce a more muted vape than big brother.
But in all fairness I do ntend to try both using a variety of identical builds at various different settings.

I have had the same experience -- the Lemo would seem to produce more clouds and better flavor than the Lemo Drop. I cannot explain it, but it just seems to have a bit more oomph. If one is debating between the two, I would recommend the original Lemo given this and the bigger tank. You will be amazed at how much more juice you go thru with these things.
 

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Now I'm curious. I'll have to break out the bigger and do a direct comparison. I would think that the shorter chimney would concentrate the flavor, not the other way around. One thing I do remember was that the bigger one seems to have more wide open air flow...anyone else notice that? Granted, I'm building larger, spaced coils now....would that obstruct the air flow noticeably?

Either way, Lemos rule. :vapor:
 

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Vaping style at this point is irrelevant and yes while it's true what I like in a vape may not be what you like but thats not the point.
What I'm attempting to do is a side by side one on one comparison of both using identical builds, identical juice, identical wicking with identical settings.
That said I still stand with my initial statement as is right now the drop does infact produce a more muted vape than big brother.
But in all fairness I do ntend to try both using a variety of identical builds at various different settings.

I don't want to come off like a troll here (but I'm sure that's what it feels like). I just thought it seemed a bit unfair to compare the two after just one build, and more importantly, one wick job. When someone here asked the difference in the two, another person answered by saying the flavor wasn't as good on the drop, and his answer was based on your findings, which is why I posted my question back to you.
 

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Now I'm curious. I'll have to break out the bigger and do a direct comparison. I would think that the shorter chimney would concentrate the flavor, not the other way around. One thing I do remember was that the bigger one seems to have more wide open air flow...anyone else notice that? Granted, I'm building larger, spaced coils now....would that obstruct the air flow noticeably?

Either way, Lemos rule. :vapor:

Maybe that's it. I have noticed the air flow being slightly better on the Lemo. Again, can't explain it and it might be in my head -- but maybe that's what is impacting my perception of the vape and the overall flavor.
 

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I don't want to come off like a troll here (but I'm sure that's what it feels like). I just thought it seemed a bit unfair to compare the two after just one build, and more importantly, one wick job. When someone here asked the difference in the two, another person answered by saying the flavor wasn't as good on the drop, and his answer was based on your findings, which is why I posted my question back to you.

One thing I am going to do since I do have the means to do so, and since both are identical with exception of the upper chimney and glass tank, is I'm going to leave the same build, wick, and lower chimney, but replace the upper chimney with a tall chimney from another Lemo along with the taller tank and try it again.
This will rule out any minor build, wicking, or air flow discrepancies, and see if in fact chimney hight has something to do with it.

Just to clarify I did not say the Drop vape was bad, on the contrary the vape is quite good, but just not quite on par with the full size.
I've been vaping on Lemo's since they first came out, before anyone even heard of a Lemo, I own 5 full size and now 1 Drop for a total of 6 and know what I should expect, but my findings should in no way deter anyone from purchasing one or more they are great rebuildable tanks and will give a most pleasurable vape,
And I will do more extensive testing and post my results, but by all means take it with a grain of salt and form your own opinion, personally I'd like to see others systematic comparison results, and compair them with my own findings.
 

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I got the lemo drop because i wanted the smaller size - Lasts me an ok period of time well one that varies and takes very little time and effort to refill.

I don't care if one version tastes better than the other - It vapes great for me.

If the larger one to some people tastes better then not sure how that equates to many people saying drippers taste really good.

I have a dripper and I guess the flavour may be more pronounced but for me thats probably just because i use one with dual coils and it produces more vapor which doesn't travel far before you inhale it.

At this moment I would be more inclined to buy another drop or a different tank than a larger lemo.
 

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One thing I am going to do since I do have the means to do so, and since both are identical with exception of the upper chimney and glass tank, is I'm going to leave the same build, wick, and lower chimney, but replace the upper chimney with a tall chimney from another Lemo along with the taller tank and try it again.
This will rule out any minor build, wicking, or air flow discrepancies, and see if in fact chimney hight has something to do with it.

I was thinking the same thing! Of course, If I tried that, the lower chimney would unscrew and wreck the wicks, LOL
 

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I was thinking the same thing! Of course, If I tried that, the lower chimney would unscrew and wreck the wicks, LOL
Why do you say that? the upper chimney unscrews just the full size, and have the same threading, I'm not at home right now so I cant do the experiment until this evening when I get home.
 

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What changes do you guys make to your builds for the lemo to keep up with high VG juices?

I've only been able to get mine working well when using 40/60 ish juices. Would love to be able to use something like 90/10 juice but I'm new to the lemo and RTAs in general. Read the thread and came to the conclusion their are two basic build methds:

1) make a Z wick with angled coil, paste the tails along the inside of the deck leaving juice channels open (rip trippers kayfun)
2) make bunny ears with your wick, trim a bit above the chimney base, then tuck back under leaving juice channels open (rip trippers lemo)

Any other methods I should be aware of? Which seems to work best/most reliably with high VG?

Other things I'm thinking about are coil / wick size. I had a lot of problems trying to get the stock coil to work because it was so big. Was only able to get mine working once I built a 2mm coil which I'm more comfortable building wicks for. Should I revisit macro coils to get better wicking to handle the thicker juices?

My current build is a 28ga 1.8 ohm 2mm coil with the Z type wicking method using KGD.
 

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After inserting the wick in to the coil, i wet the wick with juice, then trim it and shape it with scissors to correct length and size before screwing on the chimney. That way ones the chimney is on, i just have to do is split the wick in the middle so it looks like a V and i can clearly see the juice holes. See pic on previous page.

Larger separated coils +3mm seem to be working way better for me then tightly packed coils. Closer to 1ohm or lower is better as well IMHO. Get 26 guage or 24guage and get it closer to 1ohm or under.

So far, no issues with 70vg and 80vg juice.


This is how i cut the wick after i wet it with juice.

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