The "Let's give Levitas a helping hand" Thread

[Levitas]

Reporting the results of a blend I mixed tonight:

For one, I remixed that Vanilla/Black Honey, because I thought it to be pretty good before I added the raisin, lol. This time, I added a drop of ethyl maltol, to round it off. Will allow it time to bake, so to speak.

Now the blend, I decided to go a little different and throw a little of this, and a little of that. It's a tobacco blend:

3% <TFA> Black Honey tobacco (I'm starting to like this guy), 3% <SM> English tobacco (First shot with this one), 1% Ethyl Maltol, and 1 drop of <LA> Chocolate (just for fun). Mixed a 5 milliliter sample @ 100% vg (minus any pg in the flavorings) 12mg (irrelevant I suppose, but, why not).

Okay, because I haven't tried the English before, I decided to go equal on the tobacco flavorings to see which one would dominate the other, and/or, to see if I needed to tweak it one way or the other. I have read that Seedman Tobacco flavorings are added to compliment juices, well, this is the other way around.

The Black Honey is definitely the compliment to the forerunner, English tobacco, and I dare say, it's working splendid. If you haven't had either of the tobaccos before:

Black Honey: Robust, earthy, honey seems to come with age.
English: Tropical-esque, wanna say... pina colada-ish (which normally, is definitely not my bag, baby).

As previously said, the English is definitely up front, but, the Black has got its back. Imagine a smooth island theme, but not overly sweet (even with the EM), and I contribute this to the robust Black balancing it to a light, and once again, smooth flavor.

I am enjoying this, much more than I could have anticipated. I am curious to see how it turns within the next few days, and as always, I will keep updating my results.

Anyways, just sharing. Anyone else have a similar blend, or results?

 

[graffinfected]

i have been extremely interested in tobacco flavors lately... i got some seedmans flavors a couple days ago.. i love them, i got dessert ship and commercial tobacco.. they are both fantastic... i also like the tobacco abs. pg and alc based flavors from tpa.. i never tried the english tobacco though.. ill call john tomorrow to see if i can drive up there and pick one up.. im interested in that flavor now

 

[Levitas]

What do those other Seedman tobacco flavors taste like?

 

[Charlie C]

I have the same flavors. All from Wizard Labs but the chocolate has also proved to be an impossible mix to get right.
My conclusion and what I do now is go for a chocolate cream mix.
(Just got some White chocolate AND sweet cream yesterday so will try adding that too at some point)

Now I use Bavarian Cream or Banana cream AND French Vanilla added with chocolate it can produce some pretty good results.

Chocolate on its own though..... Cannot master it.

 

[graffinfected]

What do those other Seedman tobacco flavors taste like?

the dessert ship is like a nutty flavor, but i dont know to me its lighter than the 555... it good!!

the commercial tob. speaks for itself.. it tastes good also its actually my favorite tobacco....

 

[LucentShadow]

On the subject of tobacco flavorings, I've only tried a few. I almost bought that TFA Black Honey tobacco with my last batch of flavorings, but it got trimmed out in the interest of keeping my costs down. I think I'll end up getting it, though.

FA Ultimate Camtel - I think they renamed this to 'Cam Blend Ultimate'. Hated it, but kept it. Posted about it here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-ultimate-tastes-like-pepper.html#post5705794

TFA M-Type Premium - This stuff hurt my tongue on my first try, and the taste persisted for many hours. It's incredibly strong, and I think that it would be useable at somewhere around one drop per 30-50ml, for me. Since I don't make batches that big, I haven't gotten around to figuring it out, yet. I'll probably dilute the flavoring to 1/4 strength with PG or VG, sometime, to make it easier to work with. It has a distinctive toasted-nutty flavor. I'd definitely add EM to it.

TFA RY4 - Their original RY4, and not what I was expecting. Strong, and very floral. I disliked it so much, I poured it down the drain. My drain smelled like it for days... Bah, maybe the toilet would have been better.

TFA RY4 Double - I really like this stuff. Not very strong, IMO, and seems good to me at around 8% alone. I usually mix it a bit lower, with some EM and TFA Bavarian Cream, though it works with pretty much any other flavor notes that you might like. It seems to me to have some of the M-Type flavor in it, though I have a hard time describing the overall flavor. I've used it a lot since buying it.

TFA Tobacco Blend (PG) - This is an oily-looking tobacco extract mixed with EM. Seemed similar in strength to the RY4 Double, but very sweet and mild. IMO, this needs a more robust flavor added. Since I like the RY4 Double a bit sweeter, mixing this with that works well. I haven't explored it much, yet.

I've been thinking of adding a drop of the M-Type to the 30ml bottle of Tobacco Blend to see if, and how much, it might add more of a bite to it's flavor, and possibly making something I like better out of those two.

 

[Leothwyn]

My $.02 on chocolates... some of the chocolate that I have tried have more of a dark chocolate, bitter taste (FA cocoa, TPA dbl dark, CAP dbl choc). That might be the sort of peppery taste that you got.
For more of a creamy, milk chocolate taste I like CAP choc fudge brownie, CAP choc coconut almond (the coconut is pretty subtle), and TPA dbl choc clear. Both of the CAP flavors will kill your attie/carto pretty fast, so my favorite is TPA clear. I like it mixed with a little vanilla and EM.

 

[Levitas]

Dang, Leo, I had that double chocolate in my cart the other day too... and I took it out.

I just ended up getting the flavors needed to make a Pseudo Gorilla Juice, along with some sweetener and PG.

Guess I'll have to think of it next time around.

 

[zoiDman]

No suggestions, anyone?

No one here likes chocolate vapes, or, those who do love the above flavors?

...

Not sure if you have tried this or not.

But I have found that adding a Couple of Drops of Water per ml to Any DIY Helps with All Flavors.

As to the VG. Remember that VG can come from Different sources. Or a Blend of sources. Some have more Flavor than others. Some Taste Sweeter than other.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Hey Cyrus

Yes, it's Raistlin Majere

My favorite sci fi/fantasy character for a very long time, perhaps still, just been a long while since I read those books. I got to meet margaret weiss when I was a kiddie with my older brother, I remember her talking about how attached she got to the character, would feel like he was walking with her at times...:shudder::

As far as the chocolate flavorings: What do they taste like to you? The two I've tried so far smell really good, just like chocolate, however the taste is severely lacking. I am allowing it time to steep, trying it daily (haven't tried it yet today) before making any final assessments. I am looking for something tried and true, and while I know it's all completely subjective, this is the reason why I post my results so that those who have similar results might be able to recommend what worked for them.

Did you like those chocolates from vaping zone? What did, or didn't you like about it? Flavor comparison to say, something in a real world application? Definite no thanks on the hazelnut, however, though I appreciate the offer. I love to eat them, but vaping them... not so much

It's been a while, but the VZ milk chocolate was very rich, chocolatey, almost buttery, but it has a certain 'banana' note that you find in many of the VZ tobacco flavors (black and mild, etc). Its actually a good thing, and perhaps not overpowering, but its unique, lets put it that way.

The hazelnut has some nutty notes for sure, but I remember my initial complaint was "where is the hazelnut?!" I don't taste any. Its basically like the milk chocolate except with more 'generic nut' notes. Its not a dry, hazelnutty flavor at ALL.

Real world comparison...that's a hard one . I would say milk chocolate + banana. Perhaps I could do better if I mixed a drop in some water and did the swish test, I'll try it out later

VG: I do not know for sure what it is, as I got it from Wizards Labs. I do have a bottle of Humco as well from way back when. I recently mixed a bottle of Dragon Fruit @ 15%, and it's an improvement. So, I guess I like more flavoring? Still tweaking with it all. That's the second recommendation I've seen on the NOW vg, so, I might have to check that out, just for fun.

I do not know if cutting with pg will boost the flavor of my mix, however, I do not know if diluting the vg with anything will, or will not, help relieve some of the vg'ish taste I get. More tweaking needed.

Anyways, thanks for the advice and the offer. Let me know what you think of VZ chocolate.

Well the wizard has good stuff I'm sure of it. I do believe thinning VG with water/PGA does great things for flavor with no loss of vapor unless you go nuts. You may need more flavoring! I'm telling you I'd be shocked if BB/GJ used less than 20-30% flavor, or maybe 10% of really concentrated flavorings. I for one diluted it in half and detected zero flavor drop off lol. But I also spent a long while on unflavored, still am in a way, so I feel like my buds have recalibrated kinda.

I'm gonna go thrash through my vape drawers now, bbl

 

[Levitas]

Okay, got my flavors from High Desert today. I just got two flavors, Capella's Chocolate Fudge Brownie, and FlavorWest Cinnamon Churro.

Alrighty, so first up is the Brownie. Mixed at 13% with 3 drops of sweetener added. 5ml, ~25pg/75vg ~12mg

Man oh man, this stuff is rich. After trying TFA Milk Chocolate and LA Chocolate, my standards for this one were looking bleak. But dayum, this is chocolate, have no doubt. Very true to the description, though not baked brownies, but more of the batter. This is very good, and definitely not what I was expecting. (What was I expecting? I dunno. Something more artificial I suppose?)

I do not know if this is a viable all day vape as is. It is just too rich, lol. I wanted chocolate, and I got it. It came up and slapped me in the palate whilst chiding me, "You doubt thy chocolate goodness, *slap*, backeth down 'fore I slap you a second time 'round". This is a winner, in terms of looking for a dessert chocolate I can enjoy when craving chocolate. The next step is making it into something I can enjoy all day. I am going to experiment with Banana Nut Bread and this flavor. Might be too much, might be just right. I shall see. Be warned though, if you plan on using this flavor, it sticks to the atty.

OKAY, next up. I decided to immediately mix the Cinnamon Churro with Blueberry extra. I figured this flavor was to be a mixer anyhow, so I went straight up commando and mixed a bottle of Blueberry 12% Cinnamon Churro 3%. Same ratio and nic as above.

I only started with 3% because of the smell. It's potent. It smells of something dough-y and cinnamon-y. First thought on smell, super cinnamon rollish. After mixed, I can barely smell the blueberry, lol. Time to try it...

Heh, that's pretty good. Remember that the flavor ratio was 12% Blueberry/3% C.Churro? I cannot even taste the blueberry, lol. Well, I can taste the aftertaste of blueberry. This is cracking me up, truly. This flavor is extremely powerful, if only at 3% it drowns the blueberry.

However, the flavor, pretty good. It tastes like it smells, like cinnamon rolls. Perhaps more like cinnamon roll dough. Okay, I can start tasting the blueberry some more the more I vape on it. Perhaps after a couple of days, the blueberry will come out more. When I can taste the blueberry, it's a pretty decent blend. Might add a drop or two more of blueberry if it doesn't meld within a day or so.

Alright! That's what I got. Two flavors, both of 'em good. Both of 'em strong, so be aware. I will update any changes or additional findings.

 

[BakuPeg]

Thank you for your feedback. I was going to get some C Churro but I had no clue the % so I didnt get it just yet. (Now I am thankful I didnt buy 4oz from FW).

I'll definately get 10ml on my next order.

The Cap Brownie does pack a punch. It is good!

 

[Levitas]

4 ounces would last you a lifetime

I guess if you had done that, you could have always used some in baking. I'm willing to bet some this stuff in sugar cookies would be orgasmic.

 

[BakuPeg]

I did go ahead and buy 8 flavors directly from flavor west in 4oz. I kept buying 10ml of ecto cooler (and running out).. it wasn't cost effective. I have found Ecto Cooler a great mixer for anything that needs an intense orange/mandarin/tangerine taste. I have 10 mixes that have a little or a lot of ecto cooler.

Now I have 8oz of Ecto Cooler and a handful of good fw flavors. (also got the jungle juice and pink champagne new ones). The DoubleMint is great, as is the Extreme Ice. Also, I think my husband is addicted to Swedish Fish. (Three 15ml bottles of juice are empty...)


Has anyone tried their Candy Corn? I'm thinking of trying a small bottle..

 

[Levitas]

I have been doing the same thing with Blueberry Extra, heh. I feel like that everything will go good some Blueberry. I am going to mix a bottle of Blueberry Black Honey Tobacco here soon.


Also, for anyone watching, can anyone give me the name of a flavor(s), or vendor(s) that sell flavors with nicotine already in them? Preferably PG-Free, if any such animal exists

 

[graffinfected]

I do not know if this is a viable all day vape as is. It is just too rich, lol. I wanted chocolate, and I got it. It came up and slapped me in the palate whilst chiding me, "You doubt thy chocolate goodness, *slap*, backeth down 'fore I slap you a second time 'round". This is a winner

lmfao!..........

 

[graffinfected]

I have been doing the same thing with Blueberry Extra, heh. I feel like that everything will go good some Blueberry. I am going to mix a bottle of Blueberry Black Honey Tobacco here soon.


Also, for anyone watching, can anyone give me the name of a flavor(s), or vendor(s) that sell flavors with nicotine already in them? Preferably PG-Free, if any such animal exists

i didnt even know this existed. do vendors sell extract or flavorings with nic already in them .. i mean besides tobaccos?

 

[Levitas]

i didnt even know this existed. do vendors sell extract or flavorings with nic already in them .. i mean besides tobaccos?

Well, I guess I am talking about the tobacco flavors. I am pretty certain that Alien Visions uses such flavorings, and I am just curious to try a couple out.

 

[BakuPeg]

I have been doing the same thing with Blueberry Extra, heh. I feel like that everything will go good some Blueberry. I am going to mix a bottle of Blueberry Black Honey Tobacco here soon.


Also, for anyone watching, can anyone give me the name of a flavor(s), or vendor(s) that sell flavors with nicotine already in them? Preferably PG-Free, if any such animal exists

I don't think so. Flavor vendors have other customers other than the vaping community. I imagine they have candy makers/beverage/food/bakery. Flavor West sells caffiene on their site so I can guess they also cater to companies who make energy drinks.

As John at WL can probably tell you, Selling Nicotine has its own headaches. Selling flavors is a different matter and I don't think the two industries have combined in "that way".

There ARE PG-Free flavors out there. Lorann has a natural (?) like but it is much weaker than its usual mix.

 

[Levitas]

Straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak: "We are glad you are enjoying the Boba's Bounty and Gorilla Juice. However, all of our tobaccos come with a flavoring that contains nicotine. This addition prevents us from producing our tobacco line in 0mg. Only our sweet flavors are available in 0mg."



http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/alien-visions-e-juice/179588-0mg-nicotine-juice.html