The most important video you will ever see!!

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Hi all, .....I have just watched all eight of this series of video's ....I believe the title is absolutely correct. I hope everyone will take the time to watch them all. It really 'is' the most important video for everyone to watch and to think about. I only have a GCE in mathmatics but I don't even need that to understand everything the guy says is the truth and certainty. I think it's incredibly important for people to give this some thought. It isn't an exciting video, it isn't fun ....but it is important.

YouTube - The Most IMPORTANT Video You'll Ever See (part 1 of 8)
 
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Hi all, .....I have just watched all eight of this series of video's ....I believe the title is absolutely correct. I hope everyone will take the time to watch them all. It really 'is' the most important video for everyone to watch and to think about. I only have a GCE in mathmatics but I don't even need that to understand everything the guy says is the truth and certainty. I think it's incredibly important for people to have this understanding and pass it on to everyone and anyone they know. The importance of our problems with people who want to ban e-cigs are insignificant in comparison. It isn't exciting, it isn't fun ....but it is important for people to understand.

Yeah, I don't know which is more condescending, this guy telling a class of college students they don't understand exponential growth, or your post.
 

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Yeah, I don't know which is more condescending, this guy telling a class of college students they don't understand exponential growth, or your post.

Sorry you took it like that. Certainly not meant to be condescending to anyone. I expect a lot of people do already understand it completely. It just seems as if all our leaders and most people have their heads buried in the sand because there seems to be no answers to the problem and the best thing to do is ignore it. Of course none of it bothers me ..I am getting old..but I think it matters if we care about future generations.
 

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AHHHHHHHH
ok math 102
YOUR POINT BEING ???????
What does this have to do with the ECF ?????

UM......nothing at all to do with ecf.......this is the section for off topic chat!

oh sorry I thought I got it in the outside section.......can a mod please move it, or perhaps even delete it, if it only get's negative responses. I thought it was really interesting but perhaps it's just me.
 
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Yeah, I don't know which is more condescending, this guy telling a class of college students they don't understand exponential growth, or your post.
I'd make a large wager that if you surveyed students outside math, accounting and engineering departements you'd get a lot of blank looks.
Sorry you took it like that. Certainly not meant to be condescending to anyone. I expect a lot of people do already understand it completely. It just seems as if all our leaders and most people have their heads buried in the sand because there seems to be no answers to the problem and the best thing to do is ignore it. Of course none of it bothers me ..I am getting old..but I think it matters if we care about future generations.
I agree with you. Opening lyrics of a John Barlow tune...
"We don't own this world but we act as if we did
It's a loan from the children of our children's kids
The actual owners haven't even been born yet"
 

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If anyone does watch the whole series of eight vids....you will get to see how daft it is that there are loads of people worrying about things like vaping or smoking, when there really are far more important things to be worrying about and if you think the FDA give out some bad misinformation you should hear some of the terrible misinformation that people give out about fuel and energy reserves.
 
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Growth=bad
Using energy=bad
Professors with string ties=good
Jimmy Carter=thank God for the USA, we could elect him again!
Malthus theory, global warming, oh my I guess it is all true.
We are wrecking everything just by being here, carbon bad. We are a carbon based lifeform, so are plants and animals all BAD. If we just had more professors and more nanny scolds we might realize that we do not deserve to live. Problem solved.
 
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Growth=bad
Using energy=bad
Professors with string ties=good
Jimmy Carter=thank God for the USA, we could elect him again!
Malthus theory, global warming, oh my I guess it is all true.
We are wrecking everything just by being here, carbon bad. We are a carbon based lifeform, so are plants and animals all BAD. If we just had more professors and more nanny scolds we might realize that we do not deserve to live. Problem solved.

yes but if we can convince everyone into self-imposed rationing we can slowly raise the price of utilities and consumables until we are producing less and charging more... yay profits!
 

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Yes that was an interesting vid.. I have read something about the fact that they are starting to be able to manipulate and make things out of atoms and there is a very good possibility that it won't be very long before we could turn soil, rocks and rubbish into anything we want just by rearranging all the atoms!! This would certainly solve a lot of problems if it happens.

Unfortunately we are running out of time and the only problem that science cannot solve is our exponentially growing world population and unless we very soon find a way to expand out into the universe and colonise other planets or else do something to limit the worlds population ourselves, we really are in trouble.

The UK already has a population that couldn't possibly be self sufficient and survive without resources from the rest of the world and the same problem is starting to happen everywhere. Luckily it won't be in my lifetime but we really are only talking about a couple of more lifetimes at the most before something bad has to happen and our minds do tend to look to the future as if we are going to live forever.
 
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Yes that was an interesting vid.. I have read something about the fact that they are starting to be able to manipulate and make things out of atoms and there is a very good possibility that it won't be very long before we could turn soil, rocks and rubbish into anything we want just by rearranging all the atoms!! This would certainly solve a lot of problems if it happens.

Unfortunately we are running out of time and the only problem that science cannot solve is our exponentially growing world population and unless we very soon find a way to expand out into the universe and colonise other planets or else do something to limit the worlds population ourselves, we really are in trouble.

The UK already has a population that couldn't possibly be self sufficient and survive without resources from the rest of the world and the same problem is starting to happen everywhere. Luckily it won't be in my lifetime but we really are only talking about a couple of more lifetimes at the most before something bad has to happen and our minds do tend to look to the future as if we are going to live forever.

I tend to be optimistic regarding the future. I'm hoping that as has been shown in the past Kurzweil's views on technology trends continue. It might just be that if there is any major catastrophe awaiting us in a couple of generations that we might be able to save ourselves.

If we do survive, I'm thinking that even 50 years in the future the civilized world and society will be very alien to us.
 

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I tend to be optimistic regarding the future. I'm hoping that as has been shown in the past Kurzweil's views on technology trends continue. It might just be that if there is any major catastrophe awaiting us in a couple of generations that we might be able to save ourselves.

If we do survive, I'm thinking that even 50 years in the future the civilized world and society will be very alien to us.

Even if humans are somehow able to develop the technology to keep on surviving and increasing the worlds population, the quality of life for future generations will be terrible, with no land and no countryside for them to see and nowhere to go other than inside their own little homes, where I expect they will all be putting on virtual reality goggles and living in fantasy worlds, which will be the only place left for anyone to drive a fast car along an empty road or to view any beautiful countryside. Loads of People are already starting to live in computer generated fantasy worlds right now.
 

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Even if humans are somehow able to develop the technology to keep on surviving and increasing the worlds population, the quality of life for future generations will be terrible, with no land and no countryside for them to see and nowhere to go other than inside their own little homes, where I expect they will all be putting on virtual reality goggles and living in fantasy worlds, which will be the only place left for anyone to drive a fast car along an empty road or to view any beautiful countryside. Loads of People are already starting to live in computer generated fantasy worlds right now.

I've been living in my own little fantasy world all of my life ;) I think it is safe to say we all have been to some extent or another. Ultimately, I think it will be more than goggles though. It seems quite plausible to me that bypassing our senses and connecting them through a computer is going to happen. Already we are restoring sight to the blind, even bypassing the eyes completely. Although the technology is still in its infancy, it shows that it is possible.

To a lot of people, it seems horrifying. To live in a virtual world, but to me I see that we are already doing so. Our subjective experiences on the input we receive from the real world place us in a state where it is nearly impossible to distinguish what is real.

I imagine that the future will be very alien to us. How we envision our world today is not how things are going to stay. With technology moving at an exponential rate, and with the ability to integrate technology at a physical level with our selves we will be different.

As far as I see it, such changes are inevitable.
 

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I've been living in my own little fantasy world all of my life ;) I think it is safe to say we all have been to some extent or another. Ultimately, I think it will be more than goggles though. It seems quite plausible to me that bypassing our senses and connecting them through a computer is going to happen. Already we are restoring sight to the blind, even bypassing the eyes completely. Although the technology is still in its infancy, it shows that it is possible.

To a lot of people, it seems horrifying. To live in a virtual world, but to me I see that we are already doing so. Our subjective experiences on the input we receive from the real world place us in a state where it is nearly impossible to distinguish what is real.

I imagine that the future will be very alien to us. How we envision our world today is not how things are going to stay. With technology moving at an exponential rate, and with the ability to integrate technology at a physical level with our selves we will be different.

As far as I see it, such changes are inevitable.

Yes. Unfortunately my own idea of heaven and my own selfish desire is to have open spaces, woodlands and streams all around me and within walking distance. My childhood was like that, with miles of quiet woodlands, open space and orchards to walk and play in but by the time I had become an adult it was all just houses and motorways.
I have only recently moved away from towns again to a quiet little village, with views from my home of nothing but distant rolling hills and lovely countryside, it's heavenly except that they now have plans to build houses on it all! .....better get my plug ready so I can vanish into my own virtual reality world. lol.
 

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Yes. Unfortunately my own idea of heaven and my own selfish desire is to have open spaces, woodlands and streams all around me and within walking distance. My childhood was like that, with miles of quiet woodlands, open space and orchards to walk and play in but by the time I had become an adult it was all just houses and motorways.
I have only recently moved away from towns again to a quiet little village, with views from my home of nothing but distant rolling hills and lovely countryside, it's heavenly except that they now have plans to build houses on it all! .....better get my plug ready so I can vanish into my own virtual reality world. lol.

I can relate, growing up in Maine. I used to walk around for miles in the wilderness. I never saw another person, sure there might be a plane over head that I would hear but that was it. Sometimes I would walk along an old abandoned train track, come across abandoned graves. It gave me a certain level of peace. There is a lot of history in the north east that was abandoned and left to be explored. To be alone, was awesome.

I miss those days in Maine. They are gone now, I moved to Florida because of a few factors. But such a reality is gone now, and it is never going to be back. That is the reality we all face now. Privacy is gone, and we can't just will our way back.

The only option we have now is to sit back in our houses and ignore the rest of the world while we jack into the net to try to find some form of entertainment. That is now our reality, regardless of what we want. That is the future.
 

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I can relate, growing up in Maine. I used to walk around for miles in the wilderness. I never saw another person, sure there might be a plane over head that I would hear but that was it. Sometimes I would walk along an old abandoned train track, come across abandoned graves. It gave me a certain level of peace. There is a lot of history in the north east that was abandoned and left to be explored. To be alone, was awesome.

I miss those days in Maine. They are gone now, I moved to Florida because of a few factors. But such a reality is gone now, and it is never going to be back. That is the reality we all face now. Privacy is gone, and we can't just will our way back.

The only option we have now is to sit back in our houses and ignore the rest of the world while we jack into the net to try to find some form of entertainment. That is now our reality, regardless of what we want. That is the future.

Wow I have seen Maine in a few movies and some pictures and it has looked very much like my own vision of the perfect place. My brother lives in Fort lauderdale, I haven't been there but from what I can see of where he lives on google earth, it's just endless miles of houses. It certainly doesn't make me have a desire to go there. I sure wish he lived in Maine though.
 

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Wow I have seen Maine in a few movies and some pictures and it has looked very much like my own vision of the perfect place. My brother lives in Fort lauderdale, I haven't been there but from what I can see of where he lives on google earth, it's just endless miles of houses. It certainly doesn't make me have a desire to go there. I sure wish he lived in Maine though.


376 Butternut trail wells Maine 04090 is where I used to live if you wish to google it. (I think that is the address, google maps is close enough). I can see quite a bit of change since I have moved away from there. Most of the houses there now were not there when I lived there.
 
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