The most RELIABLE e smoking devices and methods?

[Giantfan]

I am in search of the most reliable e smoking devices and methods. I started with the 510, and loved it. But after weakening atomizers that taste like crap, and other issues, I am getting frustrated to the point where I am ready to give up.

When I can direct drip into a 510 and have it work, and taste perfectly, I am happy. But, I have been unable to keep this consistent.


The quality control for atomizers seems to suck.

 

[cassavetes]

Have you tried the auto drip mod on the carts? It might help a bit.

The 510 has been my go to device, but I bought an 801 recently and found I get much better flavor from the huge 801 atty plus the large carts seem to keep the wick moist so you don't get a constant burnt taste.

 

[Giantfan]

I want to direct drip. I am not interested in inhaling bits of polyester. I can already taste a metallic taste, probably from the mesh in the atty.

I just want a reliable e cig. I have spent hundreds recently, and it sucks. I love the 510 when it works right, but that isn't often.

I am thinking about going with a mod, but it still probably doesn't solve the atomizer reliability problem. Plus, I don't know if I want to spend the money, considering there are new and improved products coming out all the time, or that will come out.

 

[Pyrate]

Ive never really had a problem with my 510 unless I flood, clog or fry the atty.
They have always worked great (except for the lame battery life)

I never liked the standard polyfill of carts so I started using PTBs, but once I tried dripping I stopped using carts completely.
I am able to get a more consistent flavorful hit each and every time and it really isnt a hassle to re-drip after 8-12 hits. Once the vapor starts to get weak and I get the metallic taste its easy to pull out my bottle, drip 3 drops and Im good to go again.

 

[Fedor]

My biggest issue with 510 is the atomiser and battery life. The atomiser works great only for the first 2 days. The battery is renowned for short life. Many also mentioned the loss of flavor when using a 510 but i don't find this to be too big of a problem. I can live with the battery life but the atomiser performance drop is just too fast for me. I have used 3 atomisers of the 510 and all 3 dropped 50% in power within 2 days.

For this, i vote for the Mseries for reliability.

 

[pmd]

My biggest issue with 510 is the atomiser and battery life. The atomiser works great only for the first 2 days. The battery is renowned for short life. Many also mentioned the loss of flavor when using a 510 but i don't find this to be too big of a problem. I can live with the battery life but the atomiser performance drop is just too fast for me. I have used 3 atomisers of the 510 and all 3 dropped 50% in power within 2 days.

For this, i vote for the Mseries for reliability.

I hear ya Fedor, the atty's have been a huge disappointment for me. Weird how the 2 that came with the kit lasted a normal atty life,since then I've gone thru 3 in one month, should have longer life than that.
I am thinking of maybe another model but the idea here was to save some $$ from not buying analogs. Maybe the hype and honeymoon is starting to wear thin on me. Won't give up just yet but the cart mods, the time and inconsistencies with good vape days and bad ones is getting me down.
Maybe there will be a good side, to rethink my vape habit and mabe just quit altogether

 

[keyzygirl]

When I got fed up,I switched to V4L cartomizers.

 

[YoMike]

Get yourself some Blue foam for your carts. Works like a charm.
I don't have time to do a search for it guess you'll need to do some foot work.

 

[Fedor]

I hear ya Fedor, the atty's have been a huge disappointment for me. Weird how the 2 that came with the kit lasted a normal atty life,since then I've gone thru 3 in one month, should have longer life than that.
I am thinking of maybe another model but the idea here was to save some $$ from not buying analogs. Maybe the hype and honeymoon is starting to wear thin on me. Won't give up just yet but the cart mods, the time and inconsistencies with good vape days and bad ones is getting me down.
Maybe there will be a good side, to rethink my vape habit and mabe just quit altogether

Before you give up, i suggest you get the M401 with extra attys, manual batteries and a USB Passthrough. This has been a good combo for me.The PCC is on its way. Attys are not built to last but should at least have a decent lifespan. You went thru 3 in a month with the 510. I got fed up with 3 in a week!!

I am especially enjoying the M401/2 manual batts at the moment but the auto ones are useful in certain situations too. I suggest you get a normal kit and complement them with some manual batts. Check out my review of the manual batts:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ries-m602-manual-kit-absolutelyecigs-com.html

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

My biggest issue with 510 is the atomiser and battery life. The atomiser works great only for the first 2 days. The battery is renowned for short life. Many also mentioned the loss of flavor when using a 510 but i don't find this to be too big of a problem. I can live with the battery life but the atomiser performance drop is just too fast for me. I have used 3 atomisers of the 510 and all 3 dropped 50% in power within 2 days.

For this, i vote for the Mseries for reliability.

I concur with the above

 

[shasta]

Before you give up, i suggest you get the M401 with extra attys, manual batteries and a USB Passthrough. This has been a good combo for me.The PCC is on its way. Attys are not built to last but should at least have a decent lifespan. You went thru 3 in a month with the 510. I got fed up with 3 in a week!!

I am especially enjoying the M401/2 manual batts at the moment but the auto ones are useful in certain situations too. I suggest you get a normal kit and complement them with some manual batts. Check out my review of the manual batts:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ries-m602-manual-kit-absolutelyecigs-com.html

Awww... decisions, decisions! I just ordered another Joye 510 starter kit from cignot because I heard everyone rave about it. Before that I was seriously contemplating buying an M401/402 for a second model. Now, I've spent more money on another Joye 510 kit.

Ok... In a few weeks I think I will go ahead and get the M401. I just spent $100 on Joye 510 stuff! And I'm still buying analogs waiting for all these orders to come in. The one from China must have gotten lost at sea or something.

 

[Giantfan]

How much more reliable is the M series anyway? I would love some details, because I am seriously thinking of switching to something else.

I want strong vapor and a decent throat hit, and something I can direct drip. I want something that is more consistent, with atties that last.

 

[mcl5000]

The quality control for atomizers seems to suck.

I'm still on my first 2 510 attys. No signs of weakening or failure. I chain vape, and have been doing so for 4 months. Even had a month or so at 6v. I have spares, but haven't had to break them out yet.

I think the reason they go so quickly for so many people is because they clean them...lol. Sounds stupid, but I've seen a lot of people who have had attys last them forever who don't clean them, and lots of people who have problems keeping them going....who clean them.

Either way, they're only like $6. Just order 5 at a time. Even if they last you only 2 weeks, that's almost 3 months of vaping for $30 in parts. That's 1 or 2 packs of analogs per month.

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

How much more reliable is the M series anyway? I would love some details, because I am seriously thinking of switching to something else.



I want strong vapor and a decent throat hit, and something I can direct drip. I want something that is more consistent, with atties that last.

By comparison to the 510s that I've owned, the difference is immense.

I mainly use Intellicig EVOs. The battery life is more or less double that of my standard 510 & more than the Mega. The atties are a lot more consistant, only dropping off months in as opposed to weeks. The cart size, some see the smallness of a 401 cart as a disadvantage, it's not. Although they are smaller, they wick better than a 510 without the need for modding the cart. Something else to take into account while we're taliking about the carts, is although they are smaller, the M401 isn't as thirsty as the 510, so they last as long if not slightly longer. 401s also burn cooler than the 510 so you will find the taste of your liquid also improves.

You can drip quite easily, you also (because of the exposed bridge) dip.

 

[Luv2CUSmile]

I have the Dragon (M401), the Gold Edition M401, and soon a Phoenix (M401)- it will soon be on the way...
I love my 401's- Very reliable in my opinion, great vape, great flavor, great lifespan on battery and atty... battery standard charge time is about 5 hrs for most people... (I am not an all day vaper and can have the same batt all day w/o needing my other one)
Still using the same atty I got w/ my kit on Oct. 2nd- this year and have ordered new ones just to have as back ups (I read many posts before I bought and just felt I needed extra)- I have opened 2 of them... others are still in the package...
Great prices for a Branded M401 at Truesmoker.com w/ wonderful Customer Service from JD
Great Prices if you just want the unit as is from Chris @ MyFreedomSmokes.com & Shawn @ Litecigusa.net
My 3 sources for 401 kits, parts and accessories- All of them are great to deal with!
I have auto and now recently one manual... I do like the manual even though I didn't feel it necessary- I don't get any of the sensitive-LED-coming-on-for-no-reason action that some people report... But I like it still- It is still something I am getting used to... using a button that is-
So many people will have different suggestions for what they feel is reliable though... If you are not sure, why not just get one batt and one atty and try it out before getting a whole kit... what doesn't work for you, put on the classifieds forum...

 

[CHUCKLEHEAD]

get a chuck ! its completly sealed this pic is a 510 atty at 3.7v

 

[Giantfan]

Thank you for your detailed replies. I am going to look into this.

MCL5000, you probably got lucky and got some good atties. The first two atties I got were great. I threw on away by accident, and then cleaned the other one. You're right, the cleaning may have taken some life out of it, because it wasn't as good afterwards.

But then, I ordered 3 more atties, and they all suck. The problem isn't so much the cost, as the stress of not knowing if what you order is going to work good. I don't mind paying for new atomizers all the time, but at least let them work.


Sludge and LuvCusmile,

I am going to check the M series out, certainly before I invest any more money into the 510. The only thing I worry about, is the amount of vapor, and the throat hit. I would love to taste the flavors more, because with the 510, I can't really taste most of the flavors, so that is a plus.

 

[Shadowdr]

How much more reliable is the M series anyway? I would love some details, because I am seriously thinking of switching to something else.

I want strong vapor and a decent throat hit, and something I can direct drip. I want something that is more consistent, with atties that last.

Use a dead 510 atty and make a Nicostick for a 401, cut off the end of the cart and drip. Over 80 days direct drip on my first 401 atty before it died. Best 7.00 I ever spent on an e-cigg. No variance, same big hit every time with more flavor then a 510.

 

[Giantfan]

get a chuck ! its completly sealed this pic is a 510 atty at 3.7v

I thought about getting a mod, but I know if I like something so big, and I also prefer automatics. Plus, I don't know how I feel inhaling that much more strong vapor. I mean, it seems like the regular e cig might be safer than a big mod with all that power. Hotter atties, more thicker vapor might mean you are getting much more exposure to something we don't know is 100% not bad for us.

Also, I like the e cig because I can hold it in my fingers like a real cigarette. I love it because I can read my book at night, and vape away. With a mod, it looks like it feels like you're taking a hit off a pipe. I can't use it in public, so I would still require maintaining my supply of whatever e cig I chose.

What do you think?

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

Sludge and LuvCusmile,

I am going to check the M series out, certainly before I invest any more money into the 510. The only thing I worry about, is the amount of vapor, and the throat hit. I would love to taste the flavors more, because with the 510, I can't really taste most of the flavors, so that is a plus.

Where are you based? US? UK? Other? (with regard to suppliers)

Vapour & throat hit wise, the EVO is only marginally less than my Titans were, but not as much as some 510 users would have you believe. In fact with a 2 month old atty & a brand new Mega 510 battery I was getting a bigger hit & more vapour from a 3 month old atty & month old battery on my EVO.