The Orange Juice Test.

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Anthal69

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Well technically, you're not getting metal fumes from the kanthal, you have to heat the wire to well above 1200c to melt it. Metal fumes only form if the metal is taken above it's melting point. With wick and liquid, the coil will never reach that temperature, unless there is a hot spot causing the area to increase in temp until it reaches the melting point and the coil fails. That failure happens very quickly. You're not tasting metal fumes. IMO


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wow I can't believe I just read through this entire thread. I just couldn't pull myself away. I'm still the new guy around here so this kinda lets me get a better feel for some of the ECF community I'm now a part of. Honestly, I want to try this OJ test. Not because of science or opinion, I'm just curious to see for myself. I have tasted metal in my vape before but I'm sure that it was due to being a new coil or cartomizer type thingy. I can see other new members scratching their heads while reading this thread though.
 

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Well technically, you're not getting metal fumes from the kanthal, you have to heat the wire to well above 1200c to melt it. Metal fumes only form if the metal is taken above it's melting point. With wick and liquid, the coil will never reach that temperature, unless there is a hot spot causing the area to increase in temp until it reaches the melting point and the coil fails. That failure happens very quickly. You're not tasting metal fumes. IMO

Shhhhhh with your facts!

He is tasting metal ions in the vape. Not machining oils, or... get this... OILS FROM THE HUMAN HAND THAT HANDLED THE COIL... Nope. It's definitely metal ions.

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Also, you silly people; of course organic orange juice has no quality and consistency control over the taste of their product. Bunch of hippies those organic product manufacturers are. They don't know science!

Why are you PUSHING non-organic orange juice Good News? Who are you working for??? You need to disclose who your work for!!!







Seriously dude.. people have been known to taste metal in their mouth right before having a heart attack or seizure. I'd look into that pronto. The WebMD boards are calling your name....
 

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I would like to point out that drawing conclusions based on one person's experience is not even vaguely science. To suggest that because one person's taste buds seem to sense 'metal' under certain circumstances somehow proves the presence of metal is faulty logic, regardless of how special those taste buds are. And it is a logic that the OP does not always adhere to - were the other odd tastes previously reported also actually present in the vapour? I won't list them here. Clearly, I am not convinced that orange juice is magic.
 

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I'll bite. For the sake of science.

My takeaway: tastes like orangey butterscotch. Two great tastes that do NOT go great together. What was supposed to happen again?

I couldn't wait to read the rest of the thread to say that wss the funniest thing I read all day. Seriously, thanks for the laugh!

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And yes, if I can taste metal in my vape, metal ions are actually in the vapor, or transporting through (heaven forbid) the drip tip. The human tongue cannot taste metal where it is not present. I taste metal all the time in really bad or too-high-powered coils.

Well, I do know that metal ions are known to bind with protein, but I'm not sure if there is any protein in vaping liquid.

On a lighter note, a metallic taste in the mouth is a common complaint and can be due to a variety of causes - from medication you may be taking to dental problems. Are you on any medications? How are your teeth? Do you have a purdy mouth? In the absence of other symptoms, it is unlikely that a metallic taste in your mouth indicates serious disease. But if you haven't had a thorough general checkup recently, I would suggest seeing your doctor to rule out any undiagnosed health problems. Some people report tasting metal right before a seizure, so it's no wonder so many people are concerned about their metal taste. If you're worried, or think you might have a seizure disorder, contact a doctor.

Anxiety does appear to cause a metallic taste in people's mouths. What's interesting, however, is that there doesn't appear to be a medical reason for it. Even during the fight or flight response, there isn't necessarily anything activated in the taste buds that should be creating this metallic taste. There are a lot of different theories for why someone would experience a metallic taste, and all of them appear to be true for different people. These reasons include:

Bleeding Gums – Stress can cause a reaction from bacteria inside of your mouth that make your gums bleed. Blood happens to tastes like metal, and can be tasted even if the amount of blood is barely perceptible. It's possible that during anxiety attacks and stress, you're experiencing a minor gum bleed.

Over Sensitivity to Taste – During periods of anxiety, it's not uncommon to be more sensitive to your usual tastes than others. In addition, there is some scientific evidence that during periods of intense stress, your taste buds may actually change, so the same taste may have a different affect.

Stomach Acid – Those with gastroesophageal reflux disease, or other related acid reflux problems, may taste metal when the acids reach the tongue. During times of intense stress and anxiety, stomach acid may be more likely to come up.

Medications – Medications that are used to treat mental illness may also cause this metallic taste.
 

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I would like to point out that drawing conclusions based on one person's experience is not even vaguely science. To suggest that because one person's taste buds seem to sense 'metal' under certain circumstances somehow proves the presence of metal is faulty logic, regardless of how special those taste buds are. And it is a logic that the OP does not always adhere to - were the other odd tastes previously reported also actually present in the vapour? I won't list them here. Clearly, I am not convinced that orange juice is magic.

Monkey ....!!!!
 

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Now GoodNews has my shorts in a twist. Is this thread about the metal ions he can taste, or the oils from kanthal wires he can taste. He starts one thread and says it's the metal ions. Next thread he says it's the oil. Another thread he would say it's the gunk on the coils. And YET another would be the pg.

Sheesh. Which thread am I on again? Just can't keep up with him.
 

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Now GoodNews has my shorts in a twist. Is this thread about the metal ions he can taste, or the oils from kanthal wires he can taste. He starts one thread and says it's the metal ions. Next thread he says it's the oil. Another thread he would say it's the gunk on the coils. And YET another would be the pg.

Sheesh. Which thread am I on again? Just can't keep up with him.

You forgot Orange Juice, Dirty Socks, Elbow Skin............................................. The list just keeps going. I think I seen somewhere that he now attributes it to a short at 3.0 ohms or some such nonsense.
 

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You forgot Orange Juice, Dirty Socks, Elbow Skin............................................. The list just keeps going. I think I seen somewhere that he now attributes it to a short at 3.0 ohms or some such nonsense.

I didn't forget about the 3 ohms short. That's why I said my shorts are in a twist. :)
 
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