The Orchid clone has arrived!!!

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They are coming out with new versions of this faster than i recoil my v1 haha.That's cool that fasttech actually seems to be showing interest in the chimney idea.I think the best way would be maybe to tell them to take an orchid,put the quartz kit on there,and use that for their research,that way they have a definite measurement to work from,although if they do that,then you can bet there will be a v5 by the end of the week haha.
That plastic tube sounds like a good concept,although i'm wondering if your running a sub ohm setup,if the chimney would get too hot and possibly start melting the tube.
I forgot about talking with the maintenance guys at work about welding a chimney,i will try and remember tommorow.I know they can do it,just not sure if they will do it.I work in a food plant,so all of our mixers,tanks,etc. are made of stainless,and they have welded on those several times in the past.I'd really like to find an even better option for the glass tank though,as those metal rings really make it a pita to fill because they are so close to the chimney.When i get the v2,i'm going to take the bottom metal ring from the quartz kit,and use my dremel to open it up a bit on the inside,as it's quite a bit thicker than it really needs to be,that way hopefully it will not interfere with the fill hole.
 

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They are coming out with new versions of this faster than i recoil my v1 haha.That's cool that fasttech actually seems to be showing interest in the chimney idea.I think the best way would be maybe to tell them to take an orchid,put the quartz kit on there,and use that for their research,that way they have a definite measurement to work from,although if they do that,then you can bet there will be a v5 by the end of the week haha.
That plastic tube sounds like a good concept,although i'm wondering if your running a sub ohm setup,if the chimney would get too hot and possibly start melting the tube.
I forgot about talking with the maintenance guys at work about welding a chimney,i will try and remember tommorow.I know they can do it,just not sure if they will do it.I work in a food plant,so all of our mixers,tanks,etc. are made of stainless,and they have welded on those several times in the past.I'd really like to find an even better option for the glass tank though,as those metal rings really make it a pita to fill because they are so close to the chimney.When i get the v2,i'm going to take the bottom metal ring from the quartz kit,and use my dremel to open it up a bit on the inside,as it's quite a bit thicker than it really needs to be,that way hopefully it will not interfere with the fill hole.
Teflon would be able to take the heat. ;)
Here's one more that's about to come out:
Pallas 2014 New Orchid Kayfun Atomizer Have 7ml Capacity Kayfun Lite Plus V2 Upgraded From Kayfun As Fogger V4 - Buy Orchid Atomizer,Kayfun Lite,Rebuildable Atomizer Product on Alibaba.com
But this one probably wouldn't work with your glass tank. :(
 

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That one actually looks pretty cool though,although i'm not sure they know what it is haha.The orchid kayfun lite v2 fogger pallas,try saying that 3 times fast haha.Although when it comes out,i think i want one,if it truly holds 7ml,that would be great,i could fill it maybe 3 times a week and be good,and with that kind of capacity i wouldn't care about the tank being plastic haha.
 

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I got a reply from FT about the taller chimney request. I didn't get the canned "we'll put it on our to do list" response. Instead, they asked how much longer it would have to be. I estimated 5mm and told them it would have to be measured more carefully, but don't have a caliper, so dunno where to go from there.


Laying in bed, I had this really awesome idea. What if you ask FT to make an "Orchid Chimney Adapter"? Basically take the fat part of the Orchid chimney, and thread the top to fit Kayfun top chimney pieces. That way, it could be used with any Kayfun tank system! Orchid M-Tank, anyone? :vapor:



This should also save you from having to send them any measurements, as they should obviously have some kayfuns sitting around.
 
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Anyone see why this wouldn't be do-able?

I think that's what the Cali guy did when he modified his, from the pic I posted earlier. I heard the real (non-clone) Orchid 1.5 is supposed to have a 2-piece chimney. We might have to wait for those to come out, if FT's gonna come out with something. Apparently, they need something to clone first. :laugh: Told myself I wasn't buying another one till V4 (the taller one) comes out, which should be soon - The reply I got from them is that they'll be contacting the manufacturer to negotiate.
 
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I heard the real (non-clone) Orchid 1.5 is supposed to have a 2-piece chimney. We might have to wait for those to come out....

True, but even if this happens, chances are the kayun upper chimneys won't thread in, leaving us in the same boat we are now. We need the flexibility that you get from the kayfun system, and an Orchid Chimney Adapter would be the easiest way.
 

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How often you guys change out your cotton or clean your coils on the Orchid

Alot of it will depend on the juice your using,as some will gunk up faster than others,and how much you go through,just like with any other that you would use cotton in.I don't use cotton in this,i use rayon,so i get a long time out of it,but back when i used to use cotton in other atties,i always needed to change it every 2-3 days,now that i use rayon,it's 2-3 weeks.
 

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Alot of it will depend on the juice your using,as some will gunk up faster than others,and how much you go through,just like with any other that you would use cotton in.I don't use cotton in this,i use rayon,so i get a long time out of it,but back when i used to use cotton in other atties,i always needed to change it every 2-3 days,now that i use rayon,it's 2-3 weeks.

With the Orchid V2, I have been changing cotton after a couple tanks. I don't see any advantage to keeping dirty cotton in your Orchid. I don't know about your area, but I get organic cotton here for very little, many times CVS has buy one get one free 80 count organic cotton balls. My opinion is alot of flavor complaints come from having dirty cotton. Change that .... out.

My Orchid V3 has shipped, I'll post thoughts on it when I get it. Crazy how many versions are popping up, V4, hell haven't used the V3 yet.
 
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Yeah,like i said i had to change cotton every few days,rayon is a whole different animal,if it's wicked right,there is no need to change it as often as cotton.Rayon does not soak up juice the way cotton does.Cotton acts sort of like a sponge soaking in the juice,where as rayon just carries the juice on the surface,so it doesn't get gunked up the way cotton does,or not as quickly anyway.The most i ever got through with cotton was maybe 20-25ml before they were gunked and giving bad flavor,since changing to rayon,i can go over 70ml+ with no change in flavor at all.I still have an almost full bag of organic cotton,but it has not been touched since switching to rayon,there is just no comparison between the 2,so no need for me to go back to rewicking every 2 days,when i can get better flavor and rewick once a month.
 
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.......My Orchid V3 has shipped, I'll post thoughts on it when I get it. Crazy how many versions are popping up, V4, hell haven't used the V3 yet.


I know the v2 was supposed to have deeper juice wells and bottom fill. What's new in v3 and v4? Is there someplace to read the revisions like a wiki or something?
 

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I know the v2 was supposed to have deeper juice wells and bottom fill. What's new in v3 and v4? Is there someplace to read the revisions like a wiki or something?

They're both clone versions, not authentic. The V3 is basically a V2 with a shorter stem, then fitted Kayfun Nano drop kit and finned top cap. Focal has them, FT was out of stock for awhile, don't know if they've restocked yet. The V4 isn't out yet, but it will just be a taller version of V3, with longer stem and full-size Kayfun parts (I hope). I'm hoping the V4 will be able to be fitted with m-tanks and full-size quartz kits.
 

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Ok,got the glass back today.I am now the proud owner of what i'll dub the orchid v1.75 haha,it's almost perfect now,i just need to get a v2 and switch these parts over,then i can dub it a v4.If anyone else gets the glass done like this,i highly reccomend putting it on the v2,i have it on a v1 and it is a pita to fill because the metal rings for the glass are very close to the chimney.Dont get me wrong,it is doable,i amvaping with it now,it just takes some patience to fill it,the v2 should eleminate this issue though.As for capacity,i got 3ml in it,and could probably have gotten more in it,as there was an air pocket in the top cap that i didnt realize until after i screwed the base back on.I strongly believe with a v2,this setup will hold 3.5ml+.The glass turned out great as well,the cut was perfectly done.Only thing now is to change the o-rings to some black ones.

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Oh,and kaezziel,totally agree,you definitely need to try that thing out with lower ohms on a mech,nothing like it haha.I run mine at .9ohms on my stingray,just fantastic.
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Here is my V3 I purchased from Ebay. The deck and build seemed much easier then a Kayfun....this thing DRINKS juice like no other!! Haven't measured but I believe around a 2ml juive capacity. And with the v3 It cant be filled quickly using the top cap, you got to have a screw driver and 're load through the bottom.

So my question I've read multiple people mixing kayfun parts with Orchid Parts but with so many different versions do you or anyone have suggestion which Kayfun kit to use?? Preferably only reason I want to change is more liquid capacity

Yours looks nice too ha I like the red accents.


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You can't do much else with the V3, because they've shortened the stem of the chimney. You can try to extend the length of that stem though, then you'd be able to use any KF tank (m-tank, full size quartz tank, etc.). I'm about to try silicone aquarium tubing, 4mm ID x 5mm OD. It's stretchy (same material as o-rings), so I should be able to work it over the stem and get a tight seal. Others have used 1/4" tubing from the plumbing dept. (tight fit to top cap though). Or you can wait for the V4, which is basically a taller version of V3.

I'm good with the V1 that I have - way too many tanks, not enough mods - so I'm just gonna tweak the hell out of it. :laugh:
 

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That aquarium tubing sounds like a great idea,since the o-rings hold up to the heat on the chimney,that should too.I have an old setup from an aquarium sitting in my closet,i may check the tubing that's with it,but then again,it's used so not sure i want to chance what may have grown on it being in fish water haha.I can say now though,after using mine with the modified glass for a while,it flat out sucks trying to fill these with those metal rings for the glass haha.The gap is so tight between the chimney and the metalring that i can't even get a 14 gauge needle between them,so i have to basically squirt a bit in,wait for it to run down into the tank,then squirt some more,etc.It's really nice to not have to worry about cracking a plastic tank,but the way ihave to fill it takes forever,so this weekend,i will be doing some more modification.I noticed the inside lip on those rings is fairly thick,so i'm going to grind/sand/file whatever i find works,and take about half off of those inside lips,this will give plenty of clearence then,and filling it should be a breeze after that.
 
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