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The Path of Resistance - Smokers Who Don't Want to Vape
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I think the fact of the matter is that its just "easier" to smoke, Ive converted about 35 people in my home city and half of them are back on the analogs. They always have some kind of weak excuse like "I dont like having to plug it in at night" but the cell phone always seems to find its way on the charger every night? Or "I dont like refilling the carts"...sheesh! Maybe refilling the oxygen tank on their respirator will be easier, and you have to make sure your life support is plugged in at all times lol.
People WANT to smoke ! ive been smoke free for almost 5 months and Im NEVER GOING BACK.
People WANT to smoke ! ive been smoke free for almost 5 months and Im NEVER GOING BACK.
When I first started vaping one year ago I was not planning on quitting (as a matter of fact I didn't think I was ever going to quit) When the cigarette price went up I was looking on the internet trying to buy cheaper cigarettes and found a site that sold electronic cigarettes. I mentioned this to my husband and he researched. He found out they sold Nipros at the local pilot and purchased it for me. I though I would just try it since he was so enthused. At first I was not very satisfying but for him I keep trying. I did not want to disappoint him so I would not smoke around him. At night I was sneak outside and smoke. Then I found this forum and began reading. I ordered a 510 and eventually I found it better than cigarettes. You see I was not planning on quitting cigarettes instead it just happened. I had been smoking 3 packs a day for 40 years. It was that easy.
I, too, have seen and heard many of the same things previous posters have.... and have reacted in much the same way, responding "Vaping has worked for me, I tried your suggestions of patches, gum, meds, none of it worked for me, but vaping has.. I will give you some initial info if you are interested and you can take it from there and maybe it will work for you." I am going on the assumption that if they are not interested enough to do the research, then they are not interested enough in an alternative that might help them.
Some other scenarios I have encountered are those who respond with comments like:
"There's just too much stuff you have to carry around in order to vape, too much trouble."
MY answer: Well, it's a lot of trouble to fill/refill and carry around an oxygen tank also, and that's where you are headed.
"I just don't like the way those things look"
MY answer: Well, an oxygen mask is not too attractive either, and that's where you are headed.
Another perhaps more rare good effect of vaping for me: My husband is a slow eater, I am not. Previously, when out for a meal together, we often got tense (not an argument really, just tense) while I waited on him to finish his meal, him feeling rushed, me wanting to get out there to get a smoke. Now, if I feel the need, I stealth vape, but most of the time, just knowing I could if I wanted, helps relieve that tension.
Same sort of thing in an airport waiting to board, I usually don't vape, but knowing I can helps to relieve the tension. I do not CHOOSE to be confrontational in public places, although I do not argue with those who do. It's a personal choice. I don't usually vape in public no smoking areas by choice, but knowing I could helps me get past that deprived feeling, and knowing I can slip into the ladies room or a secluded corner and vape descreetly, well that gives me the satisfaction of making the choice that's right for me.
I offer help and info when asked, answer questions if I can, and be the best ambassador I can possibly be, but there are times, places, and people where nothing I do is going to have the desired effect, closed minds, stubborn attitudes, and I have come to accept that. Hopefully, at some point, those same people will have an epiphany and come back for the info, I was stubborn and unaccepting at one time also.
Good vaping to everyone and sorry for the long post.
Some other scenarios I have encountered are those who respond with comments like:
"There's just too much stuff you have to carry around in order to vape, too much trouble."
MY answer: Well, it's a lot of trouble to fill/refill and carry around an oxygen tank also, and that's where you are headed.
"I just don't like the way those things look"
MY answer: Well, an oxygen mask is not too attractive either, and that's where you are headed.
Another perhaps more rare good effect of vaping for me: My husband is a slow eater, I am not. Previously, when out for a meal together, we often got tense (not an argument really, just tense) while I waited on him to finish his meal, him feeling rushed, me wanting to get out there to get a smoke. Now, if I feel the need, I stealth vape, but most of the time, just knowing I could if I wanted, helps relieve that tension.
Same sort of thing in an airport waiting to board, I usually don't vape, but knowing I can helps to relieve the tension. I do not CHOOSE to be confrontational in public places, although I do not argue with those who do. It's a personal choice. I don't usually vape in public no smoking areas by choice, but knowing I could helps me get past that deprived feeling, and knowing I can slip into the ladies room or a secluded corner and vape descreetly, well that gives me the satisfaction of making the choice that's right for me.
I offer help and info when asked, answer questions if I can, and be the best ambassador I can possibly be, but there are times, places, and people where nothing I do is going to have the desired effect, closed minds, stubborn attitudes, and I have come to accept that. Hopefully, at some point, those same people will have an epiphany and come back for the info, I was stubborn and unaccepting at one time also.
Good vaping to everyone and sorry for the long post.
Excellent topic and certainly one that has puzzled me since I have experienced some friends that have tried vaping and still choose analogs.
As I have dealt with the challenges of charging batts, refilling carts, choosing juice, the whole vg/pg thing, cart mods, and the vaping in public, I have found that, for me, it is very much worth it.
My judgement (yes, judgement) of my friends is that if they were really committed to letting go of analogs, they would give vaping more than a cursory try.
Of course, they might say that I should join the gym, give up chocolate, loose weight, etc. All things they are doing while I am vaping away and ridding myself of analogs.
Perhaps our personal addictions and demons are the aspects of being human that continually remind us we are "works in progress". Perhaps they are ways we have each chosen to make the world appear less harsh.
I only know for certain that I am in control of my world and nothing else. It does not stop me from wanting others in my life to share the huge benefit for themselves that I am experiencing by vaping and letting go of analogs.
The posts to this thread are certainly reinforcing this path for me. Thank you.
As I have dealt with the challenges of charging batts, refilling carts, choosing juice, the whole vg/pg thing, cart mods, and the vaping in public, I have found that, for me, it is very much worth it.
My judgement (yes, judgement) of my friends is that if they were really committed to letting go of analogs, they would give vaping more than a cursory try.
Of course, they might say that I should join the gym, give up chocolate, loose weight, etc. All things they are doing while I am vaping away and ridding myself of analogs.
Perhaps our personal addictions and demons are the aspects of being human that continually remind us we are "works in progress". Perhaps they are ways we have each chosen to make the world appear less harsh.
I only know for certain that I am in control of my world and nothing else. It does not stop me from wanting others in my life to share the huge benefit for themselves that I am experiencing by vaping and letting go of analogs.
The posts to this thread are certainly reinforcing this path for me. Thank you.
Who knows why some people aren't open to vaping?
When I began researching e-cigs a few months ago, I was on the fence
about trying it. Then, when I saw a recommendation for V4L , I started
reading this forum. At first I thought it may be too much maintenance.
The more I thought about it, I realized that I'd much rather spend time filling and charging then cleaning the filth from analogs. I've been analog free for
5 weeks. I have absolutely no urge for an analog now.
My husband still smokes, and even though he is proud and happy that I stopped smoking, he has yet to say he wants to quit. I told him that he should try it but I guess he's not ready .......yet.
I'll be glad to help anyone who asks about vaping.....it's saving my life.
When I began researching e-cigs a few months ago, I was on the fence
about trying it. Then, when I saw a recommendation for V4L , I started
reading this forum. At first I thought it may be too much maintenance.
The more I thought about it, I realized that I'd much rather spend time filling and charging then cleaning the filth from analogs. I've been analog free for
5 weeks. I have absolutely no urge for an analog now.
My husband still smokes, and even though he is proud and happy that I stopped smoking, he has yet to say he wants to quit. I told him that he should try it but I guess he's not ready .......yet.
I'll be glad to help anyone who asks about vaping.....it's saving my life.
I haven't got my hub to convert but I don't push, I offer it to him when we are in my non-smoking car and he usually turns it down.
No, but I've got some looks from them when I top off my 510 cart.
I live on the Jersey shore and expect to be stopped during the summer. Oh I could avoid it but I choose not to. As long as I'm not publicly intoxicated and vape in the designated smoking areas only I'm not braking any laws. But to get back on topic. When I vape with the smokers I get questions and I answer them. I don't try to convert anyone. Anyone who shows an interest I refer them to ECF telling this is the best site to research on.
El Dee: "I guess it's best not to worry about other people." I would add, "Not out loud and in their face, anyway."
Unless they want to be worried about.
If they don't want to be worried about, the worry is our problem, not theirs.
That seems very sensible to me. If you love something, the more its disapproved of, or forbidden, the more your grip on it tightens. That's why many of us took so long to quit smoking.
For us, the grip let go when we opened it for something we love more. But not everyone will love vaping more. Some love the muscular, virile sort of feeling that comes with quitting cold turkey. Some love the way guilt makes smoking more titillating (like sex). Some just love smoking and there's NO one out there who doesn't know what it does - like we did, they say, "I'll take that risk."
I also agree with Mary - I think reading all of those thrilled testimonials creates a "set" for success here, as does the ongoing support. Look how many in here are already full of excited anticipation before their first kit arrives. And how many things that might have got in the way are addressed in here, and in the big forum. Even how to inhale the things. And health concerns, and reassurance that our vendors are not creepy snake-oil salesmen. And etc. It makes the change a lot less scary and daunting.
Unless they want to be worried about.
If they don't want to be worried about, the worry is our problem, not theirs.
That seems very sensible to me. If you love something, the more its disapproved of, or forbidden, the more your grip on it tightens. That's why many of us took so long to quit smoking.
For us, the grip let go when we opened it for something we love more. But not everyone will love vaping more. Some love the muscular, virile sort of feeling that comes with quitting cold turkey. Some love the way guilt makes smoking more titillating (like sex). Some just love smoking and there's NO one out there who doesn't know what it does - like we did, they say, "I'll take that risk."
I also agree with Mary - I think reading all of those thrilled testimonials creates a "set" for success here, as does the ongoing support. Look how many in here are already full of excited anticipation before their first kit arrives. And how many things that might have got in the way are addressed in here, and in the big forum. Even how to inhale the things. And health concerns, and reassurance that our vendors are not creepy snake-oil salesmen. And etc. It makes the change a lot less scary and daunting.
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I lent my brother a cart and battery when he came and stayed over a few days, he didn't smoke at all when I supplied it for him but after he left he went right back to smoking again.
The guys at work (3) All ran to the puter and purchased a 510. But after a week both sold em to me. Good for me bad for them. Really if your a smoker and dont switch to vapin,well lets just say,no damn sense,sorry,just my opinion.
I had a few family and friends say that E-cigs were just silly or chruches or dangerous. But when I post my 1 year analog free post on facebook next week..I bet there will be nothing negative anymore! Maybe a few will even get on the bandwagon with me.
I used to be like them. If I got 10 feet away from my pack of anologs I would start shaking. No one will stop me from smoking. It took me a year to accept e-cigs. But when I did it took only 4 days to throw away anologs. Free for 1 month & 2 days. Never go back.
I think a lot of smokers start with high priced "mall kits" that cost a lot and don't produce good results (satisfying vapor, adequate nicotine). I compare my Silver Bullet to my mother-in law's "mall kit" e-cig and theres just no comparison. If I had that kind of first experience, I would have probably went right back to analogs. Most people just don't put enough thought into the concept to get out here and research what is going to work for them. It's shame but I think thats the reality of the situation.
The best we can do as a community is to educate those who don't know and just hope we can help those who might have a chance at quitting the cancer.
The best we can do as a community is to educate those who don't know and just hope we can help those who might have a chance at quitting the cancer.
I think part of it is that so many of us smokers have been made to feel wicked, bad people so any even well intentioned seeming coercion immediately puts up the defensive. I've always been bad if other people try and tell me what to do! Also as said if people don't take the time and find this forum with its wealth of info they can struggle with inconvenient equipment then just not bother. So glad I took the time.
This kind of response is the most puzzling to me. In the years I spent smoking butts, I NEVER considered, or tried, to quit. It was always one of those "someday, but not today" things. I knew I had to quit, but I wasn't prepared to make a bunch of failed attempts (I acknowledge my own weaknesses fully).
The very first time I tried an e-cig I just knew. It was like a light went on. I could improve my health, spend less, and still have my beloved hand toy. In any color I wanted! It all clicked so easily and quickly for me that I can't imagine having suspicions or misgivings.
I'm also not afraid of doing research - I guess I was a bit apprehensive, but that just spurred me to read more, find answers to the things that were concerns. Maybe a lot of people are just too intimidated by anything science-y to seek out answers to those questions. I dunno.
I relate a lot to what Ddubya said.
I FIRMLY believe that were it not for cartomizers I would not be smoke free (4 weeks in a few hours) today.
With the Vapor King (which as I like to mention often is a TRUE 3.7v battery - unlike stock 510 batts) and cartos vaping is just too darn easy and convenient for me to fall back on the excuses I made when I tried to quit last year (batt life too short, carts need to be refilled too often and don't hold enough, etc. etc.) it was easy to make all of those excuses an addict makes and go back to cigs.
But even this time I was thinking along the lines of CES: I didn't intend to quit but then one day I woke up and craved my PV more than a cig.
As for the original question posed by this post - you've been given plenty of answers but I'll give you (an unpopular) reason: I think I look like an IDIOT when I am taking a hit from my PV. For some reason my 5v Prodigy isn't working as well as before and 6v is too high for me so in order for me to get the needed hit off of my PV (even with vaping 36mg) I have to take like 10 second long hits and I believe I look like an idiot. Luckily for me I don't CARE but I think there are people who do care that they'd look silly.
I can't manage to look sexy like Belletrist can
I am CONVINCED that it why my last smoking friend hasn't tried vaping - he's the type that cares what he looks like and what others think.
I FIRMLY believe that were it not for cartomizers I would not be smoke free (4 weeks in a few hours) today.
With the Vapor King (which as I like to mention often is a TRUE 3.7v battery - unlike stock 510 batts) and cartos vaping is just too darn easy and convenient for me to fall back on the excuses I made when I tried to quit last year (batt life too short, carts need to be refilled too often and don't hold enough, etc. etc.) it was easy to make all of those excuses an addict makes and go back to cigs.
But even this time I was thinking along the lines of CES: I didn't intend to quit but then one day I woke up and craved my PV more than a cig.
As for the original question posed by this post - you've been given plenty of answers but I'll give you (an unpopular) reason: I think I look like an IDIOT when I am taking a hit from my PV. For some reason my 5v Prodigy isn't working as well as before and 6v is too high for me so in order for me to get the needed hit off of my PV (even with vaping 36mg) I have to take like 10 second long hits and I believe I look like an idiot. Luckily for me I don't CARE but I think there are people who do care that they'd look silly.
I can't manage to look sexy like Belletrist can
I am CONVINCED that it why my last smoking friend hasn't tried vaping - he's the type that cares what he looks like and what others think.
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