Why X smokers don't vape.
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IF I ever decide to quit vaping...
cigalikes would be my "backslide" before a cigarette would.
One of the reasons I still occasionally will buy different cigalikes---so I know which ones I could like.
I don't think I would try to "convince" or "cajole" an ex-smoker to start vaping---even if it was 0 nic.
If they wan't to try it on their own, fine.
cigalikes would be my "backslide" before a cigarette would.
One of the reasons I still occasionally will buy different cigalikes---so I know which ones I could like.
I don't think I would try to "convince" or "cajole" an ex-smoker to start vaping---even if it was 0 nic.
If they wan't to try it on their own, fine.
Oh, I think I could easily relapse to smoking if vaping were outlawed. As long as I can vape I'm good though.
If she's not having the urge to smoke, leave her be
If she's not having the urge to smoke, leave her be
I quit smoking in 2003. I started vaping early 2014. I was in no danger of starting to smoke again. I chose to start vaping because I wanted nicotine. I don't think choosing to use nicotine is any crazier than somebody choosing to drink coffee or a beer. Nicotine helps me with my anxiety and OCD. During my years as a non-smoker those things were very negatively affecting my life. Rather than take (in my mind) more dangerous pharmaceuticals to help I decided to try nicotine. It's working great for me. Vaping doesn't make me crave cigarettes. Totally different thing to me.
For me, it is a means to quit smoking. I am slowly lowering my nic content.
But, I do enjoy it sooo... I will think about that later.
But, I do enjoy it sooo... I will think about that later.
My oldest daughter quit smoking years ago. She didn't want to try vaping because it might be a temptation to smoke.
Fast forward. She started smoking again during a stressful time. So, now she vapes.
Fast forward. She started smoking again during a stressful time. So, now she vapes.
X smokers may not want to vape. Because they see vaping as a FORM of smoking. Just without the combustion and combustion byproducts. They are correct about that. As someone who has been smoking cigarettes and other for nearly 40 years. Vaping, the other, for about 30 of those.. I know that this method, hobby, past-time, whatever Vaping E-Juice is.. Is all new, and was created, what less than 10 years ago as a SMOKING cessation product. AND then the young crowd found it as a way to "smoke" without smoking or stinking.
Once you said "she" I understood cajoling was not an option.
I gotta go my wife is calling me.
Vaping, IMO, would definitely make an X more vulnerable to smoking. The actions are nearly the same and if X is thinking vaping is okay, for them, they probably have at least considered the idea that smoking would possibly be okay as well.
I suppose I can see that anyone who has already quit smoking and is completely happy and untroubled about it -- no cravings or thoughts of smoking EVER -- probably would not want to vape, for fear it would wake those cravings back up, and that's quite understandable and self-insightful -- that's the primary reason why I won't drink NA beer, although it did taste pretty good, when I once tried one. I don't have any problem like that with NA wine, but I was never a big wine drinker; beer is a whole 'nuther ballgame, and I really do fear that if I got comfortable with NA beer, the old beer-craver in my head would wake up and demand the real thing, even though I left those kinds of cravings behind many years ago -- I'd really like those cravings to STAY firmly in the past!
On the other hand, a former smoker who is experiencing any amount of distress about not-smoking, I can't for the life of me see why they would be reluctant to vape, since vaping could relieve their distress and prevent relapsing to actual smoking. I think these are the folks that most need to be reached, with the facts that vaping is NOT smoking in any way, shape, or form, and that it's at least 95% less harmful than actual smoking, and that it actually could relieve their distress and prevent any potential relapse. I fear the ANTZ have brainwashed some of these people to the point that they actually do see vaping as a form of smoking, or as dangerous as smoking, even though it's really not either.
Andria
On the other hand, a former smoker who is experiencing any amount of distress about not-smoking, I can't for the life of me see why they would be reluctant to vape, since vaping could relieve their distress and prevent relapsing to actual smoking. I think these are the folks that most need to be reached, with the facts that vaping is NOT smoking in any way, shape, or form, and that it's at least 95% less harmful than actual smoking, and that it actually could relieve their distress and prevent any potential relapse. I fear the ANTZ have brainwashed some of these people to the point that they actually do see vaping as a form of smoking, or as dangerous as smoking, even though it's really not either.
Andria
Well, I just ordered a bottle of 80/20 Hawk Sauce from MBV. I've never used them, but I've been vaping a Raspberry/Kiwi/Menthol juice and I though it might be similar. What I've been vaping was 50/50.
I spent a few months on a militant quit smoking forum arguing with them about the merits of vaping.
Most of the diehards there hated electronic cigarettes with a passion.
Some did eventually admit that they found them to be too much of a temptation.
Others just thought it was stupid and that nicotine is a horrible demon.
I went thru a phase of feeling that way about alcohol.
Now I don't feel one way or another about it -- been there, done that, over it. My only opinion about it now is that I dislike being around drunk people, as they're prone to falling down, breaking either your things or themselves, or (god forbid) throwing up. ugh. Then somehow they find it funny. 
One of my husband's friends broke one of a matched set of terra-cotta planters this summer, falling over it drunk. Still haven't heard any offers of paying for the damage.I guess I can understand ex-smokers feeling that way about nicotine, since most people don't know about all the other addictive crap in cigarettes that's actually far harder to get free of. I even feel a smidge of that myself, for cigarettes themselves, but it's on the same order as my old feelings about alcohol -- fear, mainly, of something that has the power to addict me utterly, if I yield an inch. I'm sure I'll get past it, and cigarettes will mean as little to me as alcohol.
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