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EddardinWinter

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Knowing your line of work, I trust your opinions when it comes to air flow :)

The 1/16" is a little smaller diameter than I normally use (2mm), so that may be a part of the equation I'm missing.
Also, I know you like 30 Awg., which is fine for me since I have a ton of it, How many wraps do you use, and what resistance do you see? I know with 8 wraps on a 2mm bobbin, I come in at around 2 ohms most of the time, which is great for the ProVari range. I'll have to give it a try sometime

I use 3/32" for drippers...that's what? 2.5mm? So our wraps per ohms are gonna be a bit off...I try for 1.2 to 1.4 ohms for my ProVari. I aim for 0.6 for my mechanical mods.
 

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I use 3/32" for drippers...that's what? 2.5mm? So our wraps per ohms are gonna be a bit off...I try for 1.2 to 1.4 ohms for my ProVari. I aim for 0.6 for my mechanical mods.

Will a 2mm coil work ok for the vertical build, or would I benefit with the smaller 1/16 coil?
 

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Alright! Finished work early an here I am. Double 32ga twisted kanthal, 7 wraps, 1.3 ohms. vertical build.

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The single most impt thing: the coil must must must be aligned with the airhole
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My little secret to ensure success. A lot of people fail and say that the airflow is horrendous even after aligning the coil with the hole. That's because during the wicking stage, the cotton gets caught between the airhole and the bottom of the coil. Leave the drill bit in it while wicking, and you're guaranteed a clear air channel
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Unfortunately, the nature of the build is such that the top leg is extra long because it has to come down to the screw. So that leads to a hot leg. Place a wick over (it reaches down to the deck on both side). Extra vapor!
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And of course, the vape:

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Interesting I've learnt about the vertical build is that less isn't always more. Unlike in normal microcoils where using too much cotton will choke the coil and lead to dry hits, there is absolutely nothing to get choked here.

You can see here that the build got pretty fat and bulky at the end.
Just from simple trial and error, I found that getting a fatter wick around the coil gives me a slight wetter and definitely way more saturated vapor. It's almost like im eating it. Very very flavorful. Wicking is also not at issue at all. I've got Boba's bounty on this sucker and she's working sweet.


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EddardinWinter

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Alright! Finished work early an here I am. Double 32ga twisted kanthal, 7 wraps, 1.3 ohms. vertical build.

ypa7e3a2.jpg


ejy8y3y9.jpg


The single most impt thing: the coil must must must be aligned with the airhole
guqu6amy.jpg


My little secret to ensure success. A lot of people fail and say that the airflow is horrendous even after aligning the coil with the hole. That's because during the wicking stage, the cotton gets caught between the airhole and the bottom of the coil. Leave the drill bit in it while wicking, and you're guaranteed a clear air channel
amaryby9.jpg


udyty8ym.jpg


yqy6ubat.jpg


Unfortunately, the nature of the build is such that the top leg is extra long because it has to come down to the screw. So that leads to a hot leg. Place a wick over (it reaches down to the deck on both side). Extra vapor!
anaremyd.jpg


aputuhy9.jpg


6u4yzupe.jpg


And of course, the vape:

uha9e4y5.jpg


Interesting I've learnt about the vertical build is that less isn't always more. Unlike in normal microcoils where using too much cotton will choke the coil and lead to dry hits, there is absolutely nothing to get choked here.

You can see here that the build got pretty fat and bulky at the end.
Just from simple trial and error, I found that getting a fatter wick around the coil gives me a slight wetter and definitely way more saturated vapor. It's almost like im eating it. Very very flavorful. Wicking is also not at issue at all. I've got Boba's bounty on this sucker and she's working sweet.


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Very nice...

+1 on keep the drill bit in!

Caution: watch that button, or remove your battery! An accidental press with the bit inside the coil will instantly fry the short leg of the coil!


+1 on "the more wick, the merrier" surrounding the coil.

Caution: you can choke the channel opening if you stuff too much on the sides...so have a care there....don't make that part too dense!



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I'm curious why most of these posts about building discussed coils <2.0Ω. Wouldn't a higher resistance be preferable to use on a ProVari?

Until very recently I was of the same opinion your highness.

I've found very little battery life degradation and about a 30% improvement flavor/vapor improvement running between 1.3Ω-1.5Ω.
 

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Very nice...

+1 on keep the drill bit in!

Caution: watch that button, or remove your battery! An accidental press with the bit inside the coil will instantly fry the short leg of the coil!


+1 on "the more wick, the merrier" surrounding the coil.

Caution: you can choke the channel opening if you stuff too much on the sides...so have a care there....don't make that part too dense!



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Does it make a difference if the high leg is positive or negative?
 

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Does it make a difference if the high leg is positive or negative?

I would very very strongly recommend it to be on the negative post. Simply because it completely eliminates the possibility of a cross-post short.

Also interesting you mentioned the resistance, but when I got my provari, I would always build at 2ohms, and crank up the voltage.

For some reason, I just find that sitting at 1.3-1.4 ohms gives me a great vape; the coil doesn't take too long to fire, and I get a good length of wire heating up. Just overall a great vape. I've been vaping my 1.3 ohm coils at 4.1 volts and it's just phenomenal for my needs


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I have a bunch of pre-made micro coils 28gauge @ 2.7mm diameter and 1.6ohms you want me to send you some?
I also have a few that are .08ohm.

.08Ω?

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Thanks for the offer, but not right now. I may take you up on it, however what I'm hoping for at the moment is to get obsessed by minutia, so I don't think about RL. The vape itself is rather secondary. Have you ever looked at your family and wish you'd been raised by wolves?
 

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Very nice...

+1 on keep the drill bit in!

Caution: watch that button, or remove your battery! An accidental press with the bit inside the coil will instantly fry the short leg of the coil!


+1 on "the more wick, the merrier" surrounding the coil.

Caution: you can choke the channel opening if you stuff too much on the sides...so have a care there....don't make that part too dense!



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Ah yes, now that I've gotten my provari back, I pretty much only use my mechanicals to prime the coils when I first install it; the twisted wires give off the loudest sizzle and a hell lot of fumes when you first fire it, so I just use a mech to heat it up and hold it there till it's ready for wicking. Once that's done, it goes right on my ohm meter, and then the drill bit slides back in :D

As for the wick, yeah I def made sure I didn't over stuff the deck. I mean to say that having fat wicks around the coils gives the most delicious and rich vapor. :D


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