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Good morning, or should I say afternoon here. :closedeyes:

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Thanks. So, since I bought it after 2012, I should not use the alcohol?

Use the alcohol on Q-tips as stated in the most Holy Ritual of Cleansing...but do not bathe the ProVari as described on ProVape's website for an "alcohol bath", where you actually fill the ProVari with 99% Isopropyl alcohol. Review the linked instructions I have provided, and follow them. They are completely safe and are good for all models of the ProVari, in my opinion. They are based on the direct instruction provided by ProVape.
 

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Ahhh, gotcha. I'll get my hubby to bring some home from the hospital. Surely they have it there?

That is a safe bet.

Ms. Tina....you should already have a supply of 99% isopropyl on hand so that you can perform weekly maintenance of your ProVari. Tsk-tsk-tsk.

All of you in this thread, listen up! If you don't have all of the materials listed in my blog, you need to acquire them now. Please follow the link I posted a short while ago in this thread and get it done!

Weekly maintenance is very important for you device! Take care of your ProVari, and it will take care of you.
 

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OK.....dumb question...........why 99% isopropyl? Why not the other %?

If you read my blog and still need that question answered, I will do so. I am off to a meeting now, so I will be back on later if there is time between my meeting and my date this evening. Please, for the love of God, read my blog. It is not only full of useful information, but it is written in my entertaining and clever writing style.
 

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Thanks for the info Red. Since there are no actual holes I'm sure cooling isn't the intent. I've wondered if heat would be an issue long term for the minis, but it's a fine line between trying to seal the device from the elements and being able to effectively cool it. Also wondered why there isn't a rubber gasket on the battery cap or a seal around the button but that's another story ;)

The battery itself doesn't necessarily need air flow but cutting any air from the device and sealing it could leave the heat produced by the battery trapped in the chamber where the battery is and that would be a big "no bueno"
You really have to ask yourself, what would be the purpose of sealing up a device that is designed to vent? In the (extremely unlikely) event of a battery entering thermal runaway The ProVari has multiple failsafes. The first is the circuit board. It has thermal monitoring and will not allow the battery to be used if it registers an unsafe temperature. Second, the battery cap has a vent hole. If this vent hole is plugged (by dirt or something, the top cap is press fit and is designed to act as an emergency relief valve if necessary.

The ProVari is machined to high enough tolerances, any e-juice spilled will stay on the outside of the unit, which is good enough for me.
 

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That is a safe bet.

Ms. Tina....you should already have a supply of 99% isopropyl on hand so that you can perform weekly maintenance of your ProVari. Tsk-tsk-tsk.

All of you in this thread, listen up! If you don't have all of the materials listed in my blog, you need to acquire them now. Please follow the link I posted a short while ago in this thread and get it done!

Weekly maintenance is very important for you device! Take care of your ProVari, and it will take care of you.

I know. Ugh. I'm the worst. You better bet I'll be doing this from now on. I actually didn't even know there was a weekly cleaning routine. I bought it from a local shop and they didn't tell me anything about that. Not that it's an excuse. I should have looked it up. Lesson learned. Thanks Edd for posting the link. Very helpful :)
 

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Lol! Amen!!!

I'm an amazon addict so I'm used to UPS just dropping packages on my porch. In the 13 years I've lived at my current address I've gotten us mail with signature versification 3 times...the third had to be the Provari!

OMG me too. I love Amazon Prime. I literally have a box with something every day. It's just so easy and love the free two day shipping. I'd rather buy things on Amazon than go out in crowds and traffic to buy them. Plus it's always cheaper on Amazon.
 

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That is a safe bet.

Ms. Tina....you should already have a supply of 99% isopropyl on hand so that you can perform weekly maintenance of your ProVari. Tsk-tsk-tsk.

All of you in this thread, listen up! If you don't have all of the materials listed in my blog, you need to acquire them now. Please follow the link I posted a short while ago in this thread and get it done!

Weekly maintenance is very important for you device! Take care of your ProVari, and it will take care of you.

Did mine on Monday....

And not to make Edd cringe but 91% works, too. It just takes a bit longer to dry. Unless you have Amazon Prime, this item is no longer available for free shipping. So I just go buy it at WalMart.
 
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"Every time a fresh battery is put in the ProVari, arcing occurs between the battery and the contact."

Probably due to the Provari is automatically turned on when the battery is inserted. I noticed this the 1st time I put a battery in. I'm no electrician or programmer but, I wonder if ProVape could do a little programming to not turn the unit on until the user desires??
 

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You really have to ask yourself, what would be the purpose of sealing up a device that is designed to vent? In the (extremely unlikely) event of a battery entering thermal runaway The ProVari has multiple failsafes. The first is the circuit board. It has thermal monitoring and will not allow the battery to be used if it registers an unsafe temperature. Second, the battery cap has a vent hole. If this vent hole is plugged (by dirt or something, the top cap is press fit and is designed to act as an emergency relief valve if necessary.

The ProVari is machined to high enough tolerances, any e-juice spilled will stay on the outside of the unit, which is good enough for me.

The only purpose I can think of would be to 'lifeproof' it...like from accidentally dropping it in snow, or toilets! :2cool:

But the downside then would be cooling. If it were made waterproof and aircooling were no longer an option, then cooling would have to be accomplished either conductively (which would be an interesting challenge since you hold the device) or through an internal liquid cooling system, which would be an even bigger challenge given the size of the device.

Sorry, I'm new to the APV scene and sometimes my engineering background gets me thinking...but then again I don't know the cooling requirements of this type of device. Outside of the heat generated by the coil (which is in the tank), I don't know how much heat the battery/pcb/led actually generate. I'll have to look around. If anyone has links that would be greatly appreciated!
 

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Speaking of http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provari/501193-greetings-our-newest-members.html

Verse six

You must place the Sacred ProVari on an altar and gently pass a silver* thurible filled with myrrh over it for 7 consecutive nights just past sunset. Then, and only then, you may kneel before a candle and read your Rewards Loyalty Program card (yes, we are rewarded for our loyalty!) upside down and the Secret Name of-which-we-do-not-speak shall be revealed


My wife ran me out of the house and the preacher call the cops on me at the church where I was trying to use their alter. I ran. Can I just do the kneeling before the candle?? I promises to be a good ProVarinati--- :D

Nobody thought this was either....
 

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Rechargeable battery in an airtight tube is a pipe bomb.

People have made waterproof PV's, but if they want to make it safe they use something like a 1-way gasket, so the device can "vent" if necessary but still won't allow water in...



The only purpose I can think of would be to 'lifeproof' it...like from accidentally dropping it in snow, or toilets! :2cool:

But the downside then would be cooling. If it were made waterproof and aircooling were no longer an option, then cooling would have to be accomplished either conductively (which would be an interesting challenge since you hold the device) or through an internal liquid cooling system, which would be an even bigger challenge given the size of the device.

Sorry, I'm new to the APV scene and sometimes my engineering background gets me thinking...but then again I don't know the cooling requirements of this type of device. Outside of the heat generated by the coil (which is in the tank), I don't know how much heat the battery/pcb/led actually generate. I'll have to look around. If anyone has links that would be greatly appreciated!
 

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Rechargeable battery in an airtight tube is a pipe bomb.

People have made waterproof PV's, but if they want to make it safe they use something like a 1-way gasket, so the device can "vent" if necessary but still won't allow water in...

Probably right, there probably is no other practical way to dissipate the heat given the small form factor. Thanks for the insights guys!
 

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Speaking of http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provari/501193-greetings-our-newest-members.html

Verse six

You must place the Sacred ProVari on an altar and gently pass a silver* thurible filled with myrrh over it for 7 consecutive nights just past sunset. Then, and only then, you may kneel before a candle and read your Rewards Loyalty Program card (yes, we are rewarded for our loyalty!) upside down and the Secret Name of-which-we-do-not-speak shall be revealed


My wife ran me out of the house and the preacher call the cops on me at the church where I was trying to use their alter. I ran. Can I just do the kneeling before the candle?? I promises to be a good ProVarinati--- :D

Of course! It's meant to be done in your personal sacred place, not someone else's.
 

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I don't have time to quote all of the posts about problems with the Protanks, but Kanger changed the heads. Apparently, for one thing, this improvement was meant to get rid of the "airy" draw the fist Protanks had, but they went overboard. You will notice that the new ones come in a blister pack, while the old ones didn't. I noticed this myself and was talking with the people at our new B&M (who praise the Lord aren't idiots!) and they have been getting returns due to the issue.

I don't think Edward mentions the airflow issue in his post, but he does talk about the change. Some of you may not be aware, but Edward was the person who approached Kanger with the idea of creating the Protank and the only person selling them in the beginning. I imagine he is really pi55ed at Kanger:

Kanger Protank eVod atomizer heads in 1.8 2.2 and 2.5 ohm for $5.79Sun-Vapers.com
 

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And just to clarify - it's not dangerous because of heat during normal operation. It's the danger of a faulty or shorted battery. The decent mods are built to protect you from that - with short protection, and with a vented tube. It does happen...and you want your hands, pocket, or face protected from it!



Probably right, there probably is no other practical way to dissipate the heat given the small form factor. Thanks for the insights guys!
 

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Thanks. So, since I bought it after 2012, I should not use the alcohol?

Personally, I wouldn't risk it. ProVape never recommended the bath as part of regular maintenance, it was more of a last resort done at ProVape's direction. They have never come out and said it, but they changed the kind of adhesive used to hold the board and it reacts to alcohol. There are often little tweaks that they don't tell anyone about unless asked. Usually we find out about them when people post that the can't figure out why their device is different. Did ProVape post anywhere that they were changing the cap? I didn't see it.
 
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