the Quest - Consistent, reliable, satisfying vapor device

[XBarbarian]

Greetings

a tad frustrated. started vaping with a simple device 3 weeks ago.. long wick type tank. flooded, leaked, etc. upgraded to a kanger evod tank, same battery. BDC coils. was great a day or two.. but still wrestled a bit with leakage ( juice getting in the contact area of the base - battery connection ) dry hits at times, etc. unreliable. especially if taking more than 2-3 draws. inconsistent. then started running ou t of battery life before the day was through. using more I guess, chasing better satisfaction.

this past weekend, decided to take the plunge, bigger batter with adjustable volts. atmos rx power-vape. bought a second battery as well, and a external charger, so I have a fresh battery always ready. that's a good thing.

bought a Aspire nautilus tank to go with that battery. was amazing for a day or two, adjustable air, less heavy throat hits etc. but then I started getting dry hits maybe? less vapor production anyway.. probably because I was hitting it say 3 times in a row. if I pout it down for a few minutes, would get a great draw again. on another thread here, I learned about proper volts for the coils ohm's thing.. was using it at too high a setting at first. good people on this forum, very helpful and educational.

still though, it seems 3 hits are the threshold, and then it goes poor for a few minutes, unless I put it down for a bit. annoying! some lovely folks told me about RBA's - kayfuns, etc. someone is even sending a walk through, to combine with you tubes, and I can learn to rebuild coil/wicks

I am a tad scared of the whole bad coil, blown up battery thing though. lol.

is the "science" ( vaping devices etc ) still too immature? is that it? my requirements aren't too extreme, are they?

consistent, reliable, works most every time, good vape , even if I want 5 drags in a row. dont care necessarily about clouds.. I vape to replace cigs.. I need nicotine, not clouds necessarily. and lastly, not insane with maintenance? the drip thigs produce great clouds.. but I want a tank of some sort, not have to feed the drip constantly..

supposedly, Aspire has a break through new coil head system coming out today.. the BVC .. Im hoping they may improve my nautilus experience. the reviews are great, but, ya never know til you try.

has anyone had experiences that meet my requirements? or is this still a never ending quest of sorts?

thank you!

 

[Susan~S]

bought a Aspire nautilus tank to go with that battery. was amazing for a day or two, adjustable air, less heavy throat hits etc. but then I started getting dry hits maybe? less vapor production anyway.. probably because I was hitting it say 3 times in a row. if I pout it down for a few minutes, would get a great draw again.

A lot of your problems can be solved by learning how to best use your current equipment. If you chain vape you have to do things a little differently than someone who does not chain vape.

Even though the nautillus does have good airflow control (with the airflow base set wide open) it cannot keep up unless you periodically (ever two or three hits) do a hit or two without engaging the battery. This will pull e-liquid into the coil so that when you do engage the battery there is e-liquid available to vaporize.

If you do this one thing, you will not have to wait and you will not experience any "dry hits". If you end up pulling too much e-liquid into the coil (i.e. flooding it), tip your e-cig up when you take a hit. This will keep the tank from feeding more e-liquid into the coils and will vaporize the excess e-liquid.

 

[XBarbarian]

thank you Susan. you're right; I did discover that, and it helped, but still some what erratic. I'm confident the heart of my issue is me though, and more experience, better usage skillz, will probably help in time. still interested in others experience, their learning curves, their fails and successes with various devices etc.

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

I've come to learn that vaping is a personal thing... like "eating". Things simply taste different to each and everyone of us. Even if we use the exact same gear.

First off, I wouldn't put much stock in any regulated battery affecting "taste". Yes, some maintain that sweet power spot better than others but still, a volt is a volt. That leaves the topper and depending on which one you use, again tastes will vary.

supposedly, Aspire has a break through new coil head system coming out today.. the BVC .. Im hoping they may improve my nautilus experience. the reviews are great, but, ya never know til you try.

I have heard many good things about this. Comparisons put it in the same flavor class as carto-tanks without the hassles. Keeping an eye on this myself.

 

[XBarbarian]

aye, looking forward to the BVC coils

thanks Kodiak
and its less about taste, as it is about more consistent, reliable vapor on demand, even if I "chain" hit it.. say 4 or 5 times.

I did just go outside and besides doing more pre load pulls ( without button pushed ), i also pulsed the button, as I took a draw, that seemed to help maybe a little too.. wondering if I should look at a kanger aero or mega tank as well.. if they are more consistent?

just for the heck of it.. going to see a buddy tonight thats like hardcore vape guy.. LOL.. RDA user.. although I dont want to go that route.. seems like too much work.. but maybe a RBA .. Im open to trying those..

 

[XBarbarian]

well.. I went to see my buddy that's been vaping for a year or two, and works in a nice B&M here in Tampa... and well.. after some testing , conversation, etc.. I went full on and bought a Infinite Cartel mech and a TOBH dripper...

I just couldn't get over the difference in the amount of vape, the taste, the smoothness....

so.. even though I said I didnt want to go that route... the difference was just too much to pass up! on a bright note, the thing hits so much harder.. he suggested dropping down to 6mg nic... and hes right.. I will not be chain vaping this beast! lol. so i went from 18mg juice.. to a amazing 6mg Boss Juice.. called Apple Crack juice.. lol Pretty sweet.. will probably try some other juices shortly..

holy guacamole!

 

[Susan~S]

I hope your buddy spent some time with you going over battery safety, amp limitations, ohms law, etc. You are now using an unregulated mod and safety is 100% in your hands.

If you don't do your homework, you could end up vaping on a "pipe bomb". Your battery, your mech mod, your RDA/RBA will fire anything you put on it, whether it is safe to do so or not!

What is the ohms of the coil your buddy built for you? And what type of batteries are you using?

 

[Grimwald]

I went thru the great device search for more than a year. Tried a dozen different tanks/clearos over that time. All of them had their bad points...mostly occasional leaking and gurgling which drives me nuts, Of all of them the basicEvodwas the best for me.

What really saved my sanity was carto tanks. I found them to be the most consistent of all the delivery devices. They just work.

In the last month I've been experimenting with the Kayfun. I must say that it is also a very good consistent device. But it does take an investment both in time and money. (not to mention upper body strength because they are big and heavy) One of the pluses...once you have wire and an ohms meter, you can go back and re-coil those Evods and other tanks that are gathering dust. Sometimes, those old devices just need a bit of tender loving care to get them back in service. (and sometimes nothing can save them).

 

[XBarbarian]

susan.. yes, he did. I wont build without his supervision for the first few times.. need to buy a ohm meter for myself, etc.. the build we did was in his shop. battery is a 18650 3.7 /2600 mAh, coils @ .5 ohms

that seems low though.. I should read , learn about going to a higher ohm, yes?

 

[Ryedan]

susan.. yes, he did. I wont build without his supervision for the first few times.. need to buy a ohm meter for myself, etc.. the build we did was in his shop. battery is a 18650 3.7 /2600 mAh, coils @ .5 ohms

that seems low though.. I should read , learn about going to a higher ohm, yes?

I suspect the battery is a Sony VTC5, in which case you're quite safe at 0.5 ohms, like you would be with almost any IMR or hybrid battery out there. What you need to be careful of is to avoid shorts as I'm sure your friend told you.

Going with a bit higher resistance will give you more vape time before having to change the battery, but the flavor will change and vapor production per second will go down. Some people prefer a less aggressive vape, some don't.

You've got a great setup and the great thing with rebuildables is you can make them perform pretty well any way you want within reason.

Hope it works out for you!

 

[Susan~S]

susan.. yes, he did. I wont build without his supervision for the first few times.. need to buy a ohm meter for myself, etc.. the build we did was in his shop. battery is a 18650 3.7 /2600 mAh, coils @ .5 ohms. that seems low though.. I should read , learn about going to a higher ohm, yes?

What is the amp limitation of your battery? Are they the Sony US18650VTC5 2600mAh - Flat Top? If so, they have a 30 amp limitation and you are safe.

Yes, to the reading. And yes, consider building above 1.0 ohm (if you are building your own coils) until you have had time to digest all the information you will need to learn to be safe. Here are some links by our resident battery expert, Baditude.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...43-batteries-chargers-multi-meters-forum.html

Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

Baditude's Blogs

Read up. It's homework time!

 

[XBarbarian]

thank you Ryedan, Susan, .. yes, Sony US18650VTC5 2600mAh - Flat Top

what Ohm build should I try next if I want to slow it down a tad? go to .7 maybe? I see you suggest jumping to 1.0

Ill read and read some more. I appreciate the support guys! Love the ECF! I also bookmarked the steam engine..

 

[Susan~S]

thank you Ryedan, Susan, .. yes, Sony US18650VTC5 2600mAh - Flat Top

what Ohm build should I try next if I want to slow it down a tad? go to .7 maybe? I see you suggest jumping to 1.0

Ill read and read some more. I appreciate the support guys! Love the ECF! I also bookmarked the steam engine..

You will be good at 0.7 ohms (I often recommend higher when I don't know exactly what battery someone is using). The Sony VTC 3/4/5's are some of the best out there. You will only be drawing 6amps (on a freshly charged battery) so you have plenty of head room for safety.

Great idea bookmarking the "Steam Engine". There are many different places you can get this information, but this place has much of the same information all in one place. I saw it in another members "signature line" and liked it so much that I to added it to mine.

If you are looking for a good place to get Kanthal wire check out Lightening Vapes. They also carry a whole host of other products for someone new to rebuildables, at decent prices (ohm meter, volt meter, charger, butane torch, etc.). Free standard shipping on everything. They even have a few tutorials for rebuilding your Kanger coils (if you have any Protanks laying around).

Once you have mastered "standard" coil building (and fully understand all the reading materials I have linked to) then you can start experimenting with some more "advanced" coil builds. Rip Trippers is a bit over-the-top (in personality) for me, but he is a very good video instructor, with many interesting builds.

Enjoy your adventure, and as always, be safe!

 

[seahawkin]

Love the kayfun type thing, if you like putting stuff together and don't mind tweaking it is the end of the line for me in flavor. Also been digging the Kanger Aerotank-Mega on my provari tho. So that is a option if the kayfun type thing takes time.

 

[Susan~S]

XBarbarian -- I forgot to mention just one more thing. THANK YOU!

It's not often I run into a new member who has been as receptive as you have been to learning all the important things you need to learn to really be safe. More often than not, many new members are more interested in "blowing clouds" and are more interested in seeing how low they can go with their builds.
It makes me happy to see that you are not one of these members. So again, Thank You!

 

[XBarbarian]

XBarbarian -- I forgot to mention just one more thing. THANK YOU!

It's not often I run into a new member who has been as receptive as you have been to learning all the important things you need to learn to really be safe. More often than not, many new members are more interested in "blowing clouds" and are more interested in seeing how low they can go with their builds.
It makes me happy to see that you are not one of these members. So again, Thank You!

*blushes*

Why thank you Susan. Im 52... so.. ya.. chasing massive clouds < keeping my promise my bride I wouldn't burn down the house with my new passion! ( although now that I have this bad boy, I Love the sweet, airy, potent, non throat hitting luvin' I get from a RDA...)

I appreciate the support and kind cautioning.. can always get more vapor, but can't be overly careful with dangerous toys..THANK YOU too!

 

[WharfRat1976]

Ahhhhh, the first stage of vaping...like a new birthing. .

 

[USRN2016]

I'll be honest with you, I have (in front of me right now) 5 different set ups to include mechs and regulated devices, RDA's and RTA's. I have bought A LOT of RBA's/RDA's and RTA's searching for the consistent set up with good flavor and vapor. I've done all the research, have the Ohms Law charts on my desktop, laptop and my phone/tablets. I've been using rebuildables of all the types I've mentioned since April. I'm still searching for that vape lol. I have had Very good ones, but it hasnt been consistent, yet.... My drippers have the Best flavor/Vapor production, But I'm still looking for the right tank. Even though I own an Authentic Russian 91% V2, Hcigar Prometheus, Hcigar Kayfun 3.1, Kracken, Fogger V4, Kayfun Lite 28mm, the Big Fogger, Taifun GT, UD AGA-T7 and 13 different RDA's, 10 mech mods, and 6 regulated devices lol!

My point is, its all subjective and its the ultimate search for us vapors. Im still learning, trying more types of coils and finding more things I like. Just havent found my one vape yet. If you have, Kudos! I dont think I'm done spending $$ yet to find my perfect vape.

 

[Ryedan]

I dont think I'm done spending $$ yet to find my perfect vape.

You are probably well aware of this already, but just in case, if you really like drippers, a Reo might be a good way to go for you. Check out the Reos Mods forum for all the information you could want about them.

They are mechanical box mods with 6 ml of juice on board, bottom fed into an RDA. I'm using a BF'ing Cyclone with dual coils at 0.4 ohms. I have a RM2 and that's great, but I like dual coil builds and the Cyclone makes that a bit easier. You squeeze the bottle, called squonking, to get juice into the RDA which makes it pretty much a perfect hit every time.

Works for me, but as always, YMMV

 

[USRN2016]

I have looked into Reo's and I'm just not into them. The idea sounds good and they have so many loyal supporters as well as great reviews from owners, but I just don't think it's my cup of tea. Thanks, though