The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

[sandybeach]

sandy,

Capellas is pretty good for strawberry. Their Sweet Strawberry is a tad too sweet and not tart enough for my palate, but I cut it with a bit of TPA Lemon flavor, and it ends up tasting very authentic. Capellas Strawberries and Cream is good, too---I used that in my fruit mix for the creaminess.

I, too, have been through a bunch of sub-par strawberry flavoring concentrates, but Capellas is close enough to please me.

When I want to make certain simple combinations, sometimes I just mix retail juices. For instance, PrimeVaping makes the best Strawberry eliquid I've ever had---not too potent and tastes exactly like wild strawberries picked right off the vine, just sweet enough and nicely tart. I mixed that 1:1 with Waffle from NLV to make my Strawberry-Waffle juice.

I'll have to try the prime vaping one! thanks.

 

[thehangdude]

I'll have to try the prime vaping one! thanks.

Bill,
Have you tried Spring Vapors Strawberry Visitandine?

 

[billherbst]

Bill,
Have you tried Spring Vapors Strawberry Visitandine?

dude,

No. I read a thread about it awhile back that was enthusiastic, and, as I recall, the web site customer reviews praise it. Of course, with that and $2.50, you can buy a cappuccino. What do you think of it?

Here's the list from my database of the strawberry flavorings and retail juices I've purchased since Nov 2010, with my personal, subjective grades:

Flavoring Concentrates:
Sweet Strawberry---capellas, A-
Strawberries and Cream---capellas, B+
Wild Strawberry---spicebarn, F (absolutely atrocious, with some awful red food coloring that stained my hands)
Strawberry---ecigexpress (from their super-concentrated China line, in transit now)
Strawberry---health cabin (haven't tried it yet)
Strawberry---madvapes, F (terrible; reeked of bad melon/cantaloupe flavor)
Strawberry---decadentvapours (haven't tried it yet)

Pre-mixed Retail Juices:
Ripe Strawberry---altcig, B
Strawberry---bwb (haven't tried it yet; arrived this month and still steeping)
Strawberry---ecsiinc, A (Jane's Kick Juice)
Strawberry---fsusa, F
Strawberry---greenhouse1, C
Strawberry---mtbakervapor, D
Strawberry---primevaping, A
Strawberry---vixen_vapors, F (ordered with a "hint" of menthol that shocked my lungs and wrecked the juice for me)
Strawberry---vaporstation, B
Strawberry Cheesecake---deejstuff, B+
Strawberry Cheesecake---fsusa, F
Strawberry Cheesecake---primevaping, A
Strawberry Cheesecake---quicknic, C
Strawberry Cheesecake---sweet-vapes, B+
Strawberry Cream---fsusa, F
Strawberry Fields---honeyvillevapor, B
Strawberry Lava Flow---vapealicious, C
Strawberry Lemalaid---vapealicious, C
Strawberry Shortcake---madvapes, B-
Strawberry Shortcake---sweet-vapes, B+
Strawberry Shortcake (Organic)---vaperite, B+
Strawberry Shortcake (Organic)---virginvapor, A
Strawberry Twist---fsusa, F
Twizzle (strawberry licorice)---fsusa, F

Looks like I'm not too fond of FSUSA juices, eh? Well, I'm not, but especially not the strawberry blends. LOL.

 

[scarf-ace]

scarf,

An "ace" review (befitting your handle). Sounds like RYGAR (RYgar?) is a very well-blended, smooth RY4. I've not had w2v's retail RY4, but I have reviewed juice I made from Donley's RY4 flavoring concentrate, and I like that a lot.

I agree with you about Campfire Coffee. Here, too, I've not had w2v's retail premix, but I like to keep at least a small bottle of the flavoring concentrate for DIY. It's a very bracing coffee flavor. As the title implies, this ain't no filter-drip, it's old-style brewed coffee from a percolator---industrial strength, black and sharp.

Thanks for contributing a review. I take it you've had a lot of RY4s. Any further reviews you wish to post would be more than welcome. I admit to liking the stature that this thread has given me, but my goal is to have a "club" of RY4 reviewers who hang out and post here. Please consider yourself a member-in-good-standing of the club.

Aww, shucks Well I am way overdue, so here's another impromptu review:

Del's Ultimate Pipe is sold by Juice ..... dot com, an excellent and reliable site for liquids, flavours, and other vaping supplies including EPM Tanks. This particular juice is practically legendary. There are multiple threads on aussievapers.com praising it highly. I got the Doubler and mixed it with Healthcabin 36ml nic. I'm revisiting it for this review in my standard XXXL clear DCC on the EGO-Twist at 4v.

This is the sort of tobacco I refer to as "aromatic", which is less pejorative than my previous term, "perfumey". If you have tried BWB Maple Tobacco, this will smell very familiar....almost floral with, dry and herbal tones. DUP made me reassess this whole breed of tobaccos and may have saved it for me. What's the difference? DUP has an ineluctable creaminess to it that is the taste equivalent of a coat of shellac or a silk drape: it adds weight and gloss. I can definitely feel this vapor on my tongue. There are maple and caramel flavours galore....but is that creamy mouthfeel vanilla? Not certain. DUP is sweet, but not syrupy, and produces beautiful moist vapor (depending, of course, on what you mix it with). Throat hit is, of course also affected by your personal recipe but I found it to be on the mild side.

Del's Ultimate Pipe is famous for a reason: it is smooth and tasty but with a delicacy that lets you vape it for long periods without palate fatigue. (See reviews on JuiceWhore 's site for confirmation.) I might also add that Del is a delight to deal with and she is quite the flavour artisan: she's got about 15 other tobacco blends on her site. Does DUP deserve your attention? Absolutely, if you are looking for a lighter "custom"-type sorta-RY4.

Another digression back to Campfire Coffee: Are we sure this isn't a coffee/tobacco blend? I"ve tried other purported "black coffee" liquids but they all tasted burnt, like leftover coffee that you unwisely decide to reheat. My other favourite coffees are super-sweet beverage blends, so I really have no experience with a coffee juice this plain and this darn good.

 

[sandybeach]

dude,

No. I read a thread about it awhile back that was enthusiastic, and, as I recall, the web site customer reviews praise it. Of course, with that and $2.50, you can buy a cappuccino. What do you think of it?

Here's the list from my database of the strawberry flavorings and retail juices I've purchased since Nov 2010, with my personal, subjective grades:

Flavoring Concentrates:
Sweet Strawberry---capellas, A-
Strawberries and Cream---capellas, B+
Wild Strawberry---spicebarn, F (absolutely atrocious, with some awful red food coloring that stained my hands)
Strawberry---ecigexpress (from their super-concentrated China line, in transit now)
Strawberry---health cabin (haven't tried it yet)
Strawberry---madvapes, F (terrible; reeked of bad melon/cantaloupe flavor)
Strawberry---decadentvapours (haven't tried it yet)

Pre-mixed Retail Juices:
Ripe Strawberry---altcig, B
Strawberry---bwb (haven't tried it yet; arrived this month and still steeping)
Strawberry---ecsiinc, A (Jane's Kick Juice)
Strawberry---fsusa, F
Strawberry---greenhouse1, C
Strawberry---mtbakervapor, D
Strawberry---primevaping, A
Strawberry---vixen_vapors, F (ordered with a "hint" of menthol that shocked my lungs and wrecked the juice for me)
Strawberry---vaporstation, B
Strawberry Cheesecake---deejstuff, B+
Strawberry Cheesecake---fsusa, F
Strawberry Cheesecake---primevaping, A
Strawberry Cheesecake---quicknic, C
Strawberry Cheesecake---sweet-vapes, B+
Strawberry Cream---fsusa, F
Strawberry Fields---honeyvillevapor, B
Strawberry Lava Flow---vapealicious, C
Strawberry Lemalaid---vapealicious, C
Strawberry Shortcake---madvapes, B-
Strawberry Shortcake---sweet-vapes, B+
Strawberry Shortcake (Organic)---vaperite, B+
Strawberry Shortcake (Organic)---virginvapor, A
Strawberry Twist---fsusa, F
Twizzle (strawberry licorice)---fsusa, F

Looks like I'm not too fond of FSUSA juices, eh? Well, I'm not, but especially not the strawberry blends. LOL.

Thanks, Bill!!! Love your grading system, very cool

 

[thehangdude]

dude,

No. I read a thread about it awhile back that was enthusiastic, and, as I recall, the web site customer reviews praise it. Of course, with that and $2.50, you can buy a cappuccino. What do you think of it?

It is very good. I have some in 100% VG I will send you with your next care package.

The care package is getting close. I just got Mr. Vape RY4 yesterday. It needs steeping (according to website).
Mount Olympus Vapors RY4 will be at my door tomorrow.
I am suppose to get a 30ml of Apolloecigs RY4. If I do, so will you.
I also have a nice little Casablanca clone from Ecigusa in 90% Vg for you to try. It is called Midnight Rider and is very good.
I will also send you a bottle of Conspiracy to sample. I have been mixing it with many of my juices. It seems to make everything taste better. Just two or three drops per ml.

 

[billherbst]

The care package is getting close.

dude,

You are my very own one-man United Nations Rescue Organization: "Save the Vapers." Can't you just see the Public Service Announcement ad on TV? Open to a shot of a bedraggled old guy with tattered clothing sitting in a big cardboard box under a bridge somewhere (we wouldn't want to use me; somehow my incredibly beautiful apartment and Italian leather furniture might create the wrong impression). Anyway, our old guy is holding an eGo Twist with a Stardust CE4 on top, but the carto is empty. He looks at it mournfully, even puts it in his mouth, presses the Twist button, it lights up, but no vapor. Nothing. Audio voice-over (maybe I'll do that) intones: "Poor old Ralph. He doesn't know where his next vape will come from. Won't you help? For only 30¢ per day---a mere 30¢ PER DAY!---you can keep Ralph stocked in juice. Won't you please take pity on this poor old bugger and mail him a sample of your newest RY4???" [Cut to announcer/spokesperson holding a cute little kitten.] "Otherwise, I'm afraid we'll have to kill this kitten..." Cut back to Ralph looking pitiful. Voice-over continues: "Oh, and make that juice 24mg in a 50/50 PG/VG blend, please. And organic if possible. See what a difference you can make in the life of one miserable old vaper?" [Cut to shot of Ralph, still bedraggled and in tatters, but now with a fully juice-loaded Stardust on his Twist, puffing away, surrounded by clouds of vapor.] Ralph looks up and smiles, still pitiful but now happy. He says to camera, "Mmmm. RY4." [Music swells; Fade to Black.]

LOL.

You do know, of course, that I've got (and have already posted reviews of) Mr. Vape RY4 and MtOlympus RY4. Right? Of course you do. So, no need to include those in the Care Package.

 

[thehangdude]

I did not know you had tried and reviewed MtOlympus and MrVape. And you will be stuck with 18mg, as that is what I like. But as for the 30¢ per day, no. I got these from contest wins. Each of these vendors were nice enough to use my friend Random.org to choose the winners. When they use talent as a tool to choose winners, I fail miserably.

I guess I will just have to review these RY4s myself. I will find something else for you. Maybe some Organic Shell Shocked from Virgin Vapor.

 

[billherbst]

Mr. Vape RY4 review---post #1600 on May 5th.

MtOlympus RY4 review---post #1992 on June 27th.

 

[billherbst]

specs: The 5ml bottle of Mad 4 I purchased contains a light amber-colored liquid at 18mg nic strength in an unknown base blend. Judging from the viscosity, I’d guess 60/40 PG/VG. Testing was done in a GoodProphets 510SR carto at 2.7 ohms, powered by an Ovale V8 set to 3.5 volts (the Ovale’s PWM makes it hit much harder than the set volts, especially at lower voltages). I’d guess that the real-world power was about 8 watts.

Three months ago, sandybeach left a post about discovering (and liking) Mad 4 from Madvapes’ Top Vapor line. Catcalls ensued, since most experienced vapers who post on this thread don’t think much of Top Vapor juices, and that’s putting it mildly. Not that anyone put down sandy herself, but we were skeptical at best.

I added a 5ml bottle of Mad 4 to a larger hardware order from Madvapes back in May. When it arrived, I posted that I had gotten it and would do a review later that week. Then I promptly forgot about it, and the review was never written (or, at the very least, I can't find it in the thread).

Today I was looking over my Word file of The Big RY4 List and noticed that Mad 4 was included, but the post number of the review was missing. After the link to Madvapes site, it just read: post #xxxx. That meant that I had added the link in anticipation of writing a review, which apparently I never did.

So, this review today is my apologetic correction for that oversight. Just more of my endless brain damage. Anyway, here goes:

Mad 4 from Top Vapor is first and foremost a caramel juice, second a tobacco juice, and third an RY4, sort of. Well, close enough for horseshoes, anyway. What it is more technically is a caramel-tobacco blend, but I won’t quibble. Clearly, it’s supposed to be a custom RY4, so even if the vanilla is difficult to distinguish, I’ll give Top Vapor the benefit of the doubt.

The dominant caramel is neither potent nor overly sweet, which probably means that vanilla is “diluting” it, even though I can’t pinpoint the vanilla, since it’s been swallowed up by the caramel. It’s creamy and bleeds into every nook and cranny of the flavor profile.

Tobacco is present, however. I can’t pick out much about the tobacco, since it’s slathered in caramel, but it’s definitely there. And it’s OK.

That’s the big surprise about this juice. It’s OK. For all it’s technical flaws, and despite my general scorn for Top Vapor, Mad 4 is actually a pretty good vape. It’s friendly, pleasant, and surprisingly satisfying, mostly because of what it doesn’t do rather than what it does. It doesn’t make me want to puke. Mad 4 very much wants to be friends with its users, like a kid brother who wants to join his older brother's posse of friends. His sincerity makes it hard to say, “Stop bothering us and go home.” So, you let him tag along, and you end up feeling good about that.

Is Mad 4 a great RY4? Not by a long shot. But it is a juice that has aspirations to grow up and some day become an RY4. In the meantime, it’s a pretty easy juice to love, just like you love your kid brother.

Mad 4, grade: B

Link: Madvapes Mad 4

 

[sandybeach]

specs: The 5ml bottle of Mad 4 I purchased contains a light amber-colored liquid at 18mg nic strength in an unknown base blend. Judging from the viscosity, I’d guess 60/40 PG/VG. Testing was done in a GoodProphets 510SR carto at 2.7 ohms, powered by an Ovale V8 set to 3.5 volts (the Ovale’s PWM makes it hit much harder than the set volts, especially at lower voltages). I’d guess that the real-world power was about 8 watts.

Three months ago, sandybeach left a post about discovering (and liking) Mad 4 from Madvapes’ Top Vapor line. Catcalls ensued, since most experienced vapers who post on this thread don’t think much of Top Vapor juices, and that’s putting it mildly. Not that anyone put down sandy herself, but we were skeptical at best.

I added a 5ml bottle of Mad 4 to a larger hardware order from Madvapes back in May. When it arrived, I posted that I had gotten it and would do a review later that week. Then I promptly forgot about it, and the review was never written (or, at the very least, I can't find it in the thread).

Today I was looking over my Word file of The Big RY4 List and noticed that Mad 4 was included, but the post number of the review was missing. After the link to Madvapes site, it just read: post #xxxx. That meant that I had added the link in anticipation of writing a review, which apparently I never did.

So, this review today is my apologetic correction for that oversight. Just more of my endless brain damage. Anyway, here goes:

Mad 4 from Top Vapor is first and foremost a caramel juice, second a tobacco juice, and third an RY4, sort of. Well, close enough for horseshoes, anyway. What it is more technically is a caramel-tobacco blend, but I won’t quibble. Clearly, it’s supposed to be a custom RY4, so even if the vanilla is difficult to distinguish, I’ll give Top Vapor the benefit of the doubt.

The dominant caramel is neither potent nor overly sweet, which probably means that vanilla is “diluting” it, even though I can’t pinpoint the vanilla, since it’s been swallowed up by the caramel. It’s creamy and bleeds into every nook and cranny of the flavor profile.

Tobacco is present, however. I can’t pick out much about the tobacco, since it’s slathered in caramel, but it’s definitely there. And it’s OK.

That’s the big surprise about this juice. It’s OK. For all it’s technical flaws, and despite my general scorn for Top Vapor, Mad 4 is actually a pretty good vape. It’s friendly, pleasant, and surprisingly satisfying, mostly because of what it doesn’t do rather than what it does. It doesn’t make me want to puke. Mad 4 very much wants to be friends with its users, like a kid brother who wants to join his older brother's posse of friends. His sincerity makes it hard to say, “Stop bothering us and go home.” So, you let him tag along, and you end up feeling good about that.

Is Mad 4 a great RY4? Not by a long shot. But it is a juice that has aspirations to grow up and some day become an RY4. In the meantime, it’s a pretty easy juice to love, just like you love your kid brother.

Mad 4, grade: B

Link: Madvapes Mad 4

Best. Review. Ever!!!!!

Love this!

It’s OK. For all it’s technical flaws, and despite my general scorn for Top Vapor, Mad 4 is actually a pretty good vape. It’s friendly, pleasant, and surprisingly satisfying, mostly because of what it doesn’t do rather than what it does. It doesn’t make me want to puke. Mad 4 very much wants to be friends with its users, like a kid brother who wants to join his older brother's posse of friends. His sincerity makes it hard to say, “Stop bothering us and go home.” So, you let him tag along, and you end up feeling good about that.

 

[On Target]

On Target,
You and I have similar tastes in flavors. We both like Cassablanca, Applewood, MOV's tobaccos. QNJ's RY4 and 555, PV4, Love From Above, and House Blend.

My suggestion would be to try Mom & Pop Vapor Shop next. I would go for the Haze, RY4v2, and Conspiracy.

I think if mixing VBean and DdLeche (each good on their own) would make a great RY4, Don would have found it by now. It might make a good dessert vape, but you would need a tobacco (like 555E).

That said, sometimes mixing two ejuices does make for a great flavor. I like mixing QNJ's 555 with Enigma. It makes a nutty RY4 type vape.

Hangdude, I have 15 mls of M&P RY4 and RY4v2 AND Conspiracy in the mail. I also ordered BWB Vanilla Bean for good measure LOL. Right now, I am enjoying QuicNic RY4 that has over a month of steeping time. Man, Quic Nic just keeps getting better.

 

[billherbst]

On Target,

Man oh man. You and thehangdude definitely seem like peas in a pod where your palates are concerned. Twin brothers. Well, great buds taste alike, eh? LOL.

 

[On Target]

I love this thread, it has steered me in the right direction(s) regarding where my juice dollars are invested! I don't know what is the record for longest thread in ECF history, but this one must be giving it a run for its money. I guess RY4 is my most craved flavor and where else would one go for expert advice? Long live the Really Big RY4 Roundup! May have to change the parentheses to "longest".

 

[thehangdude]

Yes, QuickNicJuice does make a good RY4! Also mixing their 555 and Enigma makes for a good nutty RY4 type.

As for longest thread on ecf, not even close. But probably the longest review thread.

 

[On Target]

I will have to try mixing QuickNicJuice 555 and Enigma, did not think of that and I already have both in my inventory. Thanks for the tip!

 

[scarf-ace]

But it is a juice that has aspirations to grow up and some day become an RY4.

Aww, you are a cute little RY4 aren't you? Yes you are! Yes you are! (tickles under chin)

 

[passerbyeus]

I am back my RY4 friends ...you miss me?.....I sure did ....wounder what RY4 I could find to pour in the sink or vape 30ml in two days....Mountain Oak is still my top btw

 

[On Target]

I am back my RY4 friends ...you miss me?.....I sure did ....wounder what RY4 I could find to pour in the sink or vape 30ml in two days....Mountain Oak is still my top btw

Welcome back! Mountain Oak CountRY4 is among my favorites but not currently my top. Right now BWB is my number 1, QuicNic #2, MOV is #3 and Prime Vaping PV4 #4. Of course, this could change next week as my taste buds have been finicky since they have awoken from 38 years of analog abuse. LOL.

 

[ogredog]

Back from vacation.
As far as py4 I liked it and i shared some with my bro and his girl and they liked it .my family all smelled the maple .

Mad4- I think the excitement comes from finally finding something decent from madvapes lol I had a sample before and it was good but I never ordered it which is a reminder that it wasn't something super in my book.

I have a few yet to try that are awaiting me but only one new ry4...some twilite, gold, and waffles from NlV finally lol bought a grenade battery and was sent a couple high caliber samples.....some other hardware ...some tobaccos from Mount Olympus...and one I won't mention lol