The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

[Roxxette]

That is so true ! tobacco goes with everything

Im vaping the last days bwb cherry tobacco and watermelon tobacco taste is really awesome.


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[billherbst]

Have ya tried Holy Grail from Vapor Beast? I just got some and it's frikken awesome!

Someone sent me a tiny sample of RY4 from VaporBeast, but I can't remember who it was, nor can I find the 3ml bottle it came in. All I have left is the Boge carto I put some in. I haven't reviewed it because I don't really know whether it's what's they're selling now---Holy Grail RY4---or a beta-test, and I can't even guarantee that it's really from VaporBeast.

Anyway, I remember not liking it much. OK, I just vaped that carto again and confirmed my reaction. Not good. I won't risk doing an injustice to VaporBeast by giving a bad review to a juice they may not be selling.

 

[scarf-ace]

scarf,

The great truth---sad in our smoking days but happy now---is that tobacco goes with just about everything. I could take that further into territory of questionable appropriateness, but I think I'll just leave the comment where it is and let imagination do the rest.

I don't understand, Bill. Please be much, much more explicit.

Just kidding

 

[passerbyeus]

Someone send Bill some Holy Grail and me to lol If I vape this stuff will I live forever? We could all vape the Holy Grail until aliens come and take it away trying to figure out how to make it...lol

Dont you love how fanboys will get all up on reviews just itching to say something if they dont read what they like, just on the edge of watching their head explode is good stuff lol..


I use dual coils cartos and maybe this is just me but on some RY4s when the cartos gets a little dry I can taste the tobacco much more Maybe its the heat that brings it out. I love dual coils...passerbyeus<---------fanboy

 

[scarf-ace]

I use dual coils cartos and maybe this is just me but on some RY4s when the cartos gets a little dry I can taste the tobacco much more Maybe its the heat that brings it out. I love dual coils...passerbyeus<---------fanboy

I too am a devotee of DCCs (mostly the clear ones) and I also notice a difference....but it is more of a texture than a flavor thing. The vape comes through much stronger and "juicier" when carto is full, and becomes drier and weaker as it empties. I actually think a flavor-changing carto would be kind of neat. The Everlasting Gobstopper of cartomizers

 

[sandybeach]

No, but how much juice does one person need? I have seven liters---or 7,000ml. That's the equivalent of 233 30ml bottles. Actually, it's about 800 bottles. So, am i throwing in the towel? Sort of---I'm throwing in the towel on buying any juice that winks at me or drops its handkerchief, or that some reviewer I trust (with a name that rhymes with Kermit Frog---hint, hint, wink, wink) says is good.

But don't worry, I haven't stopped buying stuff I don't need. I did something this week I swore I'd never do. I bought a chrome ProVari. OMG. OK, it was a blem and $40 off, but after two pairs of button-top batteries and the 18650 extension cap, it was still almost a billion dollars. And that act of profligate foolishness pretty much killed the possibility of my buying any juices this month. Or food, for that matter. LOL.

So how's the Provari? Do you like it? And meh, who needs food, anyway?

 

[sandybeach]

I have been to Ahlusion.us many times....with fancy 96dpi pics and alluring names like Royal Tease could vape cloud anyones judgment. I have yet to see a RY4 there and hope they have one soon, I will be looking forward to wasting another 10 bucks lolol that may not be true it may be the best yet.



Bill you got a Provari!!!! Its well worth the appetite suppression hahaha

Some of the best juice vendors have the worst websites I've ever seen! So let's hope the pretty pictures and good juice names = awesome juices.

 

[sandybeach]

I'll admit I've been "slacking " on Reviews but only because my DIY has been SO good it's pretty much all I've been vaping for over a month now.

Jim Bob Billy Bob (sorry, I just had to add that to the Bobs)
What have you been tinkering with, on DIY juices? What have you come up with?

Hey Bill, maybe you should start the Really Great DIY Roundup thread

--Sandy

 

[sandybeach]

Congrats on the Provari, Bill! I have a Mini and am very fond of it although I rarely use it above 4.6 volts.

In more RY4 news, I have been emptying my bottles of W2V Rock Star and RYgar. Completely different to each other but both hugely satisfying. Definite re-orders, both of them. I also have a tank devoted to Pink Spot Swagger. If you like your RY4s dark, tangy, and really, REALLY vanilla-heavy (not everyone does) you should check it out.

I'm testing a new blend, VapeKing Royal Blend. If you've been unhappy with most of the pancake/waffle liquids you've tried (too one-dimensionally sweet, even from vendors I like for other stuff) and wondered, "How can I make this all-day vapeable?" the heretofore unheard-of answer is, "Add tobacco". Seriously. I wouldn't believe me either, but it's really good.

I never heard of W2V Rockstar and RYgar. Is W2V the company name?

 

[sandybeach]

I too am a devotee of DCCs (mostly the clear ones) and I also notice a difference....but it is more of a texture than a flavor thing. The vape comes through much stronger and "juicier" when carto is full, and becomes drier and weaker as it empties. I actually think a flavor-changing carto would be kind of neat. The Everlasting Gobstopper of cartomizers

I tried the clear DC cartos and they fell apart. Since I use tanks exclusively now, I only get the stainless steel cartos and I punch them myself. I also like the Vivi Nova 2.5 tanks a lot, but it seems like the heads need replacement as often as a cartomizer does. The flavor is excellent though, much better than with a cartomizer.

Sorry Bill for going off topic here.

 

[scarf-ace]

I never heard of W2V Rockstar and RYgar. Is W2V the company name?

Sandy, the company is want2vape.com. They sell liquids on their own site including many well-thought-of tobacco blends, but they also sell through Vulcanvape.com. Rock Star is one of their RY4s, and RYgar is another, exclusively sold on the VV site. They are probably my favorite RY4s right now. I also like VV because they sell several brands like AVE and Halo, plus they don't gouge me for international shipping.

And yes, the clear DCCs do fall apart. I've never had one fail from the atomizer before the plastic cracked. But I've never had a dry hit from them, the flavor is strong and clear, the rubbery drip tips are great, and they're cheap. Only other downside is they're ugly LOL.

 

[billherbst]

So how's the Provari? Do you like it? And meh, who needs food, anyway?

This is way off-topic obviously, but allow me to respond to Sandy about the ProVari, which might be of interest to other readers of the thread.

I recently just got a Provari---full-size Chrome V2 with blue LED and 18650 extension end cap. On blemished clearance sale (but it's perfect).

What do I think? Well, first off, it's one heavy mother. Below is a list of weights in ounces of some popular APVs I have sitting here on my desk. All weights include an 18650 battery (1.5-1.7 oz., depending on the battery):

6.00 ProVari chrome 18650 extended
5.45 ProVari chrome 18500 standard
5.20 Young-June Chrome Vtube v2.0
4.85 Phidias wood bottom-feeder (w/full 3ml bottle of juice)
4.50 Omega
4.15 SmokTech Vmax
3.90 Diamond flashlight mod
3.90 Epower 18650
3.75 MaxiRoughStack
3.50 Bolt 18500 w/o extender ring
3.45 Indulgence V3
3.35 Young-June black Vtube v1.5t
2.80 Madvapes VV Box with voltage display
2.60 Madvapes VV Box without voltage display
2.30 Big Brother VV box
1.70 Old Goat bottom-feeder (w/full 3ml bottle of juice)
1.60 Hello 016 battery
1.25 Little Sister VV bic lighter
1.25 eGo Twist 900mAh
1.15 eGo Twist 650mAh​

I don't know how the ProVari's brick s***house heft compares to your new Krimson Kustom dual-18650, but it's probably close. Is the weight a problem for me? No, but it might be for some people. Notice, however, that it's not that much heavier than my Young-June chrome Vtube, which is actually taller than the 4.5" extended ProVari by half an inch.

The ProVari seems well-made and sturdy, with good machining on all surfaces, including very smooth threads on the end caps. Is it orders of magnitude better than my other tube mods? No. Would it survive being run over by a truck or a fall onto concrete from 30 feet? I have no intention of finding out. It does feel very solid in the hand, however.

The one-button menu system (multi-click-and-wait) is neither ergonomic nor particularly user-friendly, but even a ...... could master it quickly enough. I much prefer the three-button user interface on my Vtubes, where a single click of the power button gives the atty/carto resistance, voltage setting, and battery remaining graphic, and changing voltage is always easily accessible. ProVape states that they went with their menu system to maintain simplicity of form, but they kept it simple for the engineers rather than the users.

I appreciate the AccuSet "what-you-set-is-what-you-get" voltage regulation. Bravo. No voltage drop at all. That's impressive, especially above 5 volts. In fairness, thought my cheap little Madvapes VV boxes with their simple linear regulators do that too, at least in the 3-5 volt range, which is where I spend 99% of my vaping time. The ProVari's 3.5-amp limit gives ample headroom, although in real life, I hardly ever go above 2.5 amps, since I no longer use dual coils.

Finally, how well does it vape? Wonderfully, exactly like most of my 23 other VVs. Is the ProVari the Holy Grail of APVs? Well, let's call it the Mercedes of mods: Well engineered, impressive, and expensive. But then, so are Lexus, BMW, Audi, etc. Now that I'm past the sticker shock, I'm glad to own one.

 

[passerbyeus]

nice you even got the bling blue .......I hear you it is a heavy beast...thats why I sold mine got a Mini Provari without extension cap the trade off for battery life is worth it, you really cant tell the difference from pics but the mini is perfect size and weight, even though they charge the same price I am very happy for what I paid. I go through about 1 battery every 4-5 hours with dual coils set at 4.7 ... I chain vape

 

[Roxxette]

Nice purchase Bill ! I have a chrome too but with stock cap to maintain a low profile, the menu style can be ridiculous at first i got used to it without even notice.

 

[billherbst]

nice you even got the bling blue .......I hear you it is a heavy beast...thats why I sold mine got a Mini Provari without extension cap the trade off for battery life is worth it, you really cant tell the difference from pics but the mini is perfect size and weight, even though they charge the same price I am very happy for what I paid. I go through about 1 battery every 4-5 hours with dual coils set at 4.7 ... I chain vape

passer,

I also ordered two Efest IMR 18500s from crystalclearvaping that haven't arrived yet. When they do, I think I'll use the ProVari in standard length. Better ergonomics will compensate for shorter battery life. After an afternoon with the ProVari, I do like it quite a bit---more than I anticipated. It does indeed feel like "quality."

Do you mind the button placement on the Mini? Since ProVari just chopped off the bottom of a standard-length tube to make the shorter Mini, the button "moves" to the center of the tube. I worry that my thumb might not be comfortable with that firing angle. That's the same reason I'm not getting a VV Gripper. The button on top looks awkward to me, and the ergonomics of how a PV fits in my hand is an important consideration for me.

 

[billherbst]

Nice purchase Bill ! I have a chrome too but with stock cap to maintain a low profile, the menu style can be ridiculous at first i got used to it without even notice.

roxxette,

I'm pretty sure I'll switch to the stock cap when my IMR 18500s arrive. As you say, lower profile is better.

Yes, the menu is easily mastered. I wish the display were only 90° away from the button rather than 180°. I don't like pressing the firing button with my fingers, and having to turn my hand so far to see the menu display when thumb clicking is awkward. Oh well... Nothing's perfect.

 

[Roxxette]

One thing to notice Bill, not a lot of provari owners know that when you select "check battery" and you have atty/carto screw it will give you reading of underload voltage and with nothing screw it will meter voltage of the battery i think that in the manual they dont even list these.

 

[ogredog]

That's the same reason I'm not getting a VV Gripper. The button on top looks awkward to me, and the ergonomics of how a PV fits in my hand is an important consideration for me.[/QUOTE]

I have a gripper got it pretty cheap $46. They should have put the button in trigger finger placement. Regardless its smaller than I had anticipated and works with my LT batteries. If you drop it on cement-its a goner. One tap ohm checker lol

If you hold it as intended its fine, I hold it with 3 digits and my pinky slides under to grip it. Battery hinge door is crappy. I prefer it to my LT but I highly doubt it will last as long. Its a good alternative to a tube, if u already have the batteries and charger. Really its just a vv box mod with a nice rubbery coating.

Your Provari sounds pretty slick Bill.

Isn't it time for you to get a new new one passer and send me yours?

 

[Cool_Breeze]

That's the same reason I'm not getting a VV Gripper. The button on top looks awkward to me...

Finger grips aside, is the top button actually awkard in operation for you?

 

[scarf-ace]

Isn't it time for you to get a new new one passer and send me yours?

Just curious Ogre, does that line ever work for you? LOL.

For anyone curious about size comparison, this picture contains my Provari Mini with standard 18350 endcap, my brand-new Siam 14500 Cube mod, and a ballpoint pen.