The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

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Cool! You'll have 50mL cheap AND quick. I'm anxious to hear more about this. From my reading, I was under the assumption that DK RY4 is no longer the original recipe. But I have been wrong before (I'll never forget that day). ; )

Yeah for $13.74 it's not gonna break my bank account so hopefully it will be worth vaping if not frakensteining then...



I'm thinking for the price you can't go wrong!

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And hopefully it will be a juice that will stay in my rotation........I have spent far more at a restaurant and not been happy with the food so we will see.........I'l post back as soon as vape:mail: arrives
 
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To everyone who posted today about Dekang RY4:

Dekang RY4 is not---I repeat, NOT---the "original" RY4.

Ruyan 4 (one of the four juices sold by The Ruyan Company for their original ecigs in 2005-2006) was a sweet tobacco-flavored eliquid. Was that juice manufactured by Dekang for The Ruyan Company? I don't know. I suppose it's possible. What I do know is that Ruyan 4 is not the same flavor and didn't use the same ingredients as what we know as RY4.

The "original" RY4 was concocted by Ludo (one of the owners of Janty) and a Dekang flavor chemist one day in 2007 in a Dekang production facility lab. It was not a replica of Ruyan 4, but it was named "Ruyan" (and shortened to "RY") as an homage to The Ruyan Company's pioneering efforts in creating ecigs. The "4" was added to the name because the formula/recipe that Ludo and the Dekang chemist liked best and settled on was the fourth version they made that day. So, "RY4." This juice---the ORIGINAL RY4---was initially marketed by Janty in 2007.

Subsequently, Dekang altered the formula and begin marketing their own version of RY4. Dekang's first version was quite popular, even moreso than the original Janty RY4, and the secret recipe was stolen in May 2009 by a flavor chemist who was leaving Janty to form Hangsen. He was arrested and imprisoned in China until 2012, but the recipe for that first Dekang version has never been recovered. Dekang RY4 has been through numerous recipe/formula changes since then, as have Janty's different RY4 series.

The text on the Dekang RY4 product page of the eLiquid Market site is simply wrong. They may not know that, or it could be just advertising fiction/hype. At any rate, the Dekang RY4 that eLiquid Market sells is not the original RY4. If you're looking for the "original" RY4 in the current retail marketplace, the closest you can get is Janty RY4 DK Series.

All this has been investigated, researched, and discussed at great length on this thread over the 2 1/2 years of its existence. I understand, of course, that newer readers and posters aren't likely to read the whole thread, so they may still be laboring under the popular misconception that Dekang RY4 was the original. It wasn't.
 

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To everyone who posted today about Dekang RY4:

Dekang RY4 is not---I repeat, NOT---the "original" RY4.

Ruyan 4 (one of the four juices sold by The Ruyan Company for their original ecigs in 2005-2006) was a sweet tobacco-flavored eliquid. Was that juice manufactured by Dekang for The Ruyan Company? I don't know. I suppose it's possible. What I do know is that Ruyan 4 is not the same flavor and didn't use the same ingredients as what we know as RY4.

The "original" RY4 was concocted by Ludo (one of the owners of Janty) and a Dekang flavor chemist one day in 2007 in a Dekang production facility lab. It was not a replica of Ruyan 4, but it was named "Ruyan" (and shortened to "RY") as an homage to The Ruyan Company's pioneering efforts in creating ecigs. The "4" was added to the name because the formula/recipe that Ludo and the Dekang chemist liked best and settled on was the fourth version they made that day. So, "RY4." This juice---the ORIGINAL RY4---was initially marketed by Janty in 2007.

Subsequently, Dekang altered the formula and begin marketing their own version of RY4. Dekang's first version was quite popular, even moreso than the original Janty RY4, and the secret recipe was stolen in May 2009 by a flavor chemist who was leaving Janty to form Hangsen. He was arrested and imprisoned in China until 2012, but the recipe for that first Dekang version has never been recovered. Dekang RY4 has been through numerous recipe/formula changes since then, as have Janty's different RY4 series.

The text on the Dekang RY4 product page of the eLiquid Market site is simply wrong. They may not know that, or it could be just advertising fiction/hype. At any rate, the Dekang RY4 that eLiquid Market sells is not the original RY4. If you're looking for the "original" RY4 in the current retail marketplace, the closest you can get is Janty RY4 DK Series.

All this has been investigated, researched, and discussed at great length on this thread over the 2 1/2 years of its existence. I understand, of course, that newer readers and posters aren't likely to read the whole thread, so they may still be laboring under the popular misconception that Dekang RY4 was the original. It wasn't.

Thank you for this.......


and especially this.........



If you're looking for the "original" RY4 in the current retail marketplace, the closest you can get is Janty RY4 DK Series.

All this has been investigated, researched, and discussed at great length on this thread over the 2 1/2 years of its existence. I understand, of course, that newer readers and posters aren't likely to read the whole thread, so they may still be laboring under the popular misconception that Dekang RY4 was the original. It wasn't.


I am a new vapor just 1 month in tomorrow but i absolutely fell in love with this flavor from the first time i tried it.....I should have dug deeper before posting and maybe buying?? hope not but I apologize for jumping the gun as I normally do but all of this can be overwhelming, just like when i bought the VR4 because it was #3 on the Big Roundup list but then after reading more i found an updated list that had it dropped down to #15 maybe?? That's why i said in a previous post i should just wait for the after thanksgiving list and order the top 3............enuff of my ranting anyways to Bill and everyone who has contributed to this amazing thread......
THANK YOU :toast:
 

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For those looking to try Butterfly's RY4 (me), just got a newsletter:

Monday, November 25 - December 2 save 60% off all products at Butterfly's eJuices! All of our handcrafted flavors are on sale and free shipping is being offered to anyone that spends $50 or more during the sale. Every flavor is handcrafted to order and is customizable with flavor strength, nicotine level, PG/VG ratio and menthol addition. We are offering some amazing holiday flavors in addition to our regular premium flavors.

Here is the link:
Butterfly's RY4 - Butterfly's eJuices Store

Gotta shop tomorrow!
 

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I find Butterfly's RY4 to be as good as Mr Vape or Tribecca. If you don't believe me, Bill will have his sample Tuesday so maybe he can put it to the front of the queue. 60% off is $8.40 for 30ml.

Many of my favorite RY4 vendors are planning big sales for Black Friday/Cyber Monday. I need to top off my credit card.

Look for more deals here, soon!
Thanksgiving - Black Friday - Cyber Monday 2013 Sales
 

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Subsequently, Dekang altered the formula and begin marketing their own version of RY4.


If you're looking for the "original" RY4 in the current retail marketplace, the closest you can get is Janty RY4 DK Series.

I might add here that for the main dekang Chinese distributors and vendors - heaven gifts, health cabin and Eastmall, the called their versions 'Ruyan #4' for quite a while. Some US vendors that got 'Ruyan #4' from the Chinese distributors or from dekang directly, sometimes renamed the flavor to 'RY4' or some variation of that. Some merely sold the same eliquid from dekang and some altered or added their own ingredients or ratios. Hence you'll get RWhyNot, etc. and some renamings.

On the second bold point. Bill I think you've answered this before (pretty sure you said no, not exactly the same) but I've wondered if any of the current premix or flavorings actually have the 'pine pollen/smokey' taste of the 2009/2010 Janty RY4 that I've sent out. And to those who either have it themselves or who have received samples from me or elsewhere.... have you ever tasted that particular note in any other eliquid?

And if not, ... I haven't ever tasted it since... one has to wonder why that is? Did Ludo have access to a flavoring that no longer exists? Did the source dry up? Etc.???
 
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I've wondered if any of the current premix or flavorings actually have the 'pine pollen/smokey' taste of the 2009/2010 Janty RY4 that I've sent out. And to those who either have it themselves or who have received samples from me or elsewhere.... have you ever tasted that particular note in any other eliquid?

Nope. Never tasted pine pollen in any eliquid before or since. Only in the juices you sent me.
 

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Nope. Never tasted pine pollen in any eliquid before or since. Only in the juices you sent me.

My experience has been the same - although your extensive experience in the flavor adds to the certainty ;)

I'm guessing the stuff that yo han has from 2007 has the same note. If Rpad has any left and interviews Ludo again, it would be interesting to hear his take on it....
 
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I find Butterfly's RY4 to be as good as Mr Vape or Tribecca. If you don't believe me, Bill will have his sample Tuesday so maybe he can put it to the front of the queue. 60% off is $8.40 for 30ml.

I believe you hang! 30 ml bottle on the way to me. I never buy 30 ml on my first order of a juice I have never tasted, but some her other flavors are really good too....... Looking forward to Bill's review and thanks for the sale thread! Just bought a new gift card (for me LOL) the other day....

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OK, let me run this up the flagpole and see who salutes.

I think until further notice I'll begin calling my group of daily juices a melangerie. That's a twist on the odd collection of animal (or people) that's called a menagerie.

Black Friday/Cyber Monday online sales not withstanding I ran across the quote while cruising the thread. AND, not reading the next 160 odd pages to see if anything changed, my question is... tada

billherbst, what is your current melangerie of juices that a person may want to look for sales on? I am still sampling my 4 vendor stash as they steep out to goodness.

I particularly like: (so far)
MOV Full Virginia Flake RY4 over Classic CountRY-4
HHV Hunstman over Heavenly Army or Heavenly Tobacco

I was thinging of spending some cash on Janty juices 'cause I haven't vaped any classic ry4s just customs or N-E-Ts and one or two that are neither.

Oh... ah... do my faves so far indicate any trend that my budds are on ie. customs v classics or bold v muted or ?

Happy Thanksgiving to Y'all
George Washington in his 1789 Thanksgiving Day Procalamation quipped "...acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits" that include "the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed."
 

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Texas Vet,

I'm posting the two-month update of The Big RY4 List today, so check my personal Top 20 retail RY4s (at the bottom of the first of the four posts).

As for non-RY4s, here are some retail juices I'm vaping now:

GoodLifeVapor El Kamino
GoodLifeVapor Deadly Sin
want2vape Creamy Espresso (DIY'd from concentrate)
BWB Cappuccino & Espresso
CopperCreek Espresso
Hangsen and TotallyWicked Turkish (DIY'd from concentrates; they may be the same juice)

Everything else is I vape is pretty much my own home-brewed NETs and/or home-made DIY juices.
 

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This post is the first of four that together comprise the ultimate consumer guide to RY4. Only retail RY4s are covered in this first post.

The Big RY4 List has six sections:

1. RY4 Reviews - Classic and Custom Retail RY4s, with links to the vendor’s product page and post number links to the initial reviews and occasionally to follow-up reviews, mostly by Bill, but also by other thread posters (who are named)
2. RY4s not yet acquired for review
3. RY4s that are no longer available for one reason or another
4. Bill’s Reviews of Other Juices (non-RY4s)
5. Vaping Commentaries
6. Bill's Personal Top 20 Favorite RY4s


The Big RY4 List

Retail RY4 Reviews - Classic and Custom
AltCig RY4 - post #1221
AltSmoke AltLiquid RY4 - post #1
AltSmoke HighCaliber Our 4 - post #388
Apollo E-Liquids/RY4 - post #2293
Awesome Clouds AC3 - post #2697
AwesomeVapor RY4 - post #1
AzureVaping RY4 (formerly BlueMistVaping) - post #1
AzureVaping RY4.5 (formerly BlueMistVaping) - post #3277
BeachVapes RY4 - post #3455 (passerbyeus)
BestEcig RY4 - post #4321
Bloog RY4 - posts #355, #439
BombayVaping RY4 - post #1814
BombayVaping RY5 - post #1814
CloudsOfVapor COV4 - post #2750
CopperCreek Voodoo - post #806
CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco - post #615
CrystalCanyonVapes Mystik RY4 - post #4862 (nilavap)
CrystalClearVaping RY4 - post #4631
CrystalELiquid RY4 - post #1014
CrystalELiquid RY4 Double Tobacco - post #1998
DarkCityVapor Wild Bill - post #4479
DeeJStuff RY4 premixed - post #3366
DIYFlavorShack RY4 - posts #1072, #3612
DIYFlavorShack Caramel RY4 - post #3612
DIYFlavorShack Caramel-Vanilla RY4 - posts #1073, #3612
DIYFlavorShack Holy Holy Grail RY4 - post #3612
ECBlend RY4 Tobacco - post #4404
ECBlend Spicy RY4 - post #4404
EcigExpress My 4 - post #1222
EcigzUSA RY4 E-liquid - post #1827
ECSI Jane’s RY4 Kick Liquid - post #4273
EliteVaporworks RY4 - post #773
ElixirLiquid RY4 - post #1
Esmoke4Life Riskee Yuice - post #1
FeelLife RY4 from health007.net - post #3375
FreedomSmokeUSA RY4 - post #1
FreedomSmokeUSA RY5 - post #1035
GoodEJuice GJ4 - post #976
GoodEJuice RY4 - post #158
GoodProphets GP4 - post #944
GoodProphets 16mg VG Joyetech Liquid - post #3373
GourmetVapor RY4 (no link to vendor allowed on ECF) - post #241
GreenhouseOne RY4 - post #962
Halo Tribeca - post #157
HappyESmoker Happy E’s Favorite RY4 - post #3307
HealthCabin house-brand RY4 - post #982
HealthCabin Dekang RY4 - posts #575, #3895 (osmo)
HeartlandVapes HY4 - posts #4647, #4718
Heather’sHeavenlyVapes Heavenly Tobacco - posts #1973, #3457 (Endor)
HighDesertEcigs Myshell’s RY4 - post #2987
HighbrowVapor Highbrowbacco RY4 - posts #1044, #1055
HitLiquid RY4 VG - post #3031
HopE-Liquids Are You 4 Real - post #4288
HotVapes RY4 - post #1026
Ikenvape IKV RY4 Gold - post #1
IndigoVapor Indigo RY - post #3382
IndigoVapor Indigo Classic - post #3488
Janty RY4 (DK Series) - post #3257
Janty RY4-X (Classic Series) - post #3257
Janty RY4 (Elixir Series) - posts #135, #3257
KalamazooVaporShop RY4 - post #1
KickBassVapor RY4 - posts #2, #1232
KustomJoose Are Why For (no online vendor) - post #4480 (Calivaper123)
KustomJoose For Are Why (no online vendor) - post #4480 (Calivaper123)
Liberty-Flights Hangsen RY1-4 - posts #754, #758, #3895 (osmo), #3628
Liberty-Flights LF4 - post #754
LiquidXpress Taboo - post #1
MaddCattVapors MaddHatter RyJ4 - post #2548
MaddCattVapors MaddHatter RyW4 - post #2548
MaddCattVapors MADDHatter RyJ5 - post #2853
Madvapes Mad 4 (Top Vapor) - post #2090
MidwestQuestVapor Quattro RY4 - post #4678 (Passerbyeus)
Mister-E-Liquid MrE’s RY4 - posts #3125, #3895 (osmo)
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4 - post #880
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2 - post #963
Mom&PopVaporShop RYO4 - post #1152
Moondrop RY42 - post #833
Mt.BakerVapor RY4 - post #1513
MountainOakVapors CountRY4 - post #1513
MOV Full Virginia Flake RY4 Limited Edition - posts #3383, #3517
MrVape RY4 - posts #1600, #3976
MyFreedomSmokes RY4 - post #4783 (Lombaowski)
MyVapeCreations RY4 - post #3036
MyVapeCreations CigaRY4 - post #3036
MyVapeJuice Our RY4 - posts #3402, #3302 (the hangdude)
MyVapeJuice Rogue RY4 - post #3528
NashvilleVapor Professor Marvel’s Master Blend - posts #3372, #3326 (the hangdude)
NHaler High Voltage Octane R Why Not - post #1065
OrbVapor Organic RY4 in a 100% VG base - posts #3234, #3323
OrbVapor Organic RY4 in selectable PG/VG base blends - posts #3234, #3323
ParkesVaping PV4 - post #943
ParkesVaping RY4 - post #943
PrimeVaping PV4 - post #1, #3895 (osmo[/])
QuantumVapor RY4, #3895 (osmo[/])
QuickNicJuice RY4 - post #51
QuickNicJuice ouR whY Qu4tro - posts #3490 (MrMann), #3492 (the hangdude), #3501, #3517
RevolutionVapor RY-4 - posts #3992 (MFToms) and #4485 (Bill)
Revolver RY4 - post #1061
RockyTopVapor Ruyan 4 (RY4) - posts #3455 (passerbyeus), #3895 (osmo)
RWVapors RY4 - post #2217
S&Smods Old #4 - post #4864 (thehangdude)
SmokeForPennys RY4 - post #672
SmokelessImage Volt RY4 - posts #355, #439, #3895 (osmo)
SpringVapor Fall Harvest RY4 - posts #1106, #1311
SpringVapor Black Label RY4 - posts #1107, #1311
SpringVapor Black Label RY4 Day & Night - post #1311
Sweet-Vapes RY4 - post #773
TimelessVapor RY4 - post #3306
TopShelfVapes RY4 - post #672
Totally Wicked Patriot Range RY4 - post #3351
ValueVapor Dekang RY1-3 - post #835
Vapebar RY4-LE (Australia) - post #3405
vapeBig RY4 - post #3375
VapeDoctor RY4 - post #664
VapeKing VK4 (Australia) - post #2903
VapeKing VK5 (Australia) - post #3010
VapeRevolution Midas RY4 - post #3661 (passerbyeus)
VapeRite Organic VR4 - post #1
VapeRite RY4 - post #1
Vapesales Gold Label RY4(squared) - posts #2066, #2127
VapingXtreme R-YLD-4 - posts #4532 (the hangdude), #4537 (calivaper123), #4539 (Jerms), #4541 (Bill)
V4L Jammin - post #3169
TheVapor’sKnoll OuR-Y4 (formerly Vapor.....) - post #1543
VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4 - posts #2537, #3895 (osmo)
Vaporescence RY4 - posts #3367, #3335 (On Target)
VaporGod RY4 Tobacco, #3895 (osmo[/])
TheVaporPro Wicked Vapor USA RY4 - posts #3375, #3337 (passerbyeus)
VaporRenu Re(4)nu - post #2251
TheVaporRoom Ginger's RY4 - post #518
VaporStation RY4 - post #1
VaporStation VS4 - post #1
VaporTalk Dulcis - post #1
VapourWorldUK Dekang RY4 Intense (only from the UK) - post #658
Vapure VY4 - post #1
vermillionriverejuice KY4 - posts #1395, #1432
Vixen Vapors RY4 (no link for vendor allowed on ECF) - post #288
VulcanVape RYGAR - post #2897
Want2Vape RY4 - post #1
Want2Vape Rock Star - post #1
ZeusE-juice Creamy RY4 - post #3033


RY4s not yet acquired for review
AltSmoke AltLiquid Premium RY4
AromaEJuice RY4
ConstantVapor CV4
DarthVapers RY4
DiamondVapor cRazY 4 you
ECBlend Ruyan 4 (Extra Caramel)
Esmoke4Life R3 Power Puff
Hope-Liquids R You 4 Real?
HotVapes Our Why 5
Janty Vitaya RY4
LongIslandVapory Main Street RY4
LotsOfVapor RY4
MyVaporStore RY4
NHaler High Voltage RY4
NHaler Nhale/Exhale RY4
ObsidianVapor RY4
PureVapes PV3
PureVapes PV4
RoarVapor JY4
TheVapeTree Rwhy4
TheVaporRoom TVR RY4
USVaporShop RY4 Tobacco
VapeRite Asian RY4 Tobacco
VapeRite Double RY4 Tobacco
VapeRite Italian RY4 Tobacco
VolcanoEcigs RY-Four
Yaeliq RY4 (Israel)
RY4 Asian Tobacco (Israel)
Yaeliq Double RY4 (Israel)
ZeusE-Juice Zeus RY4 Version 2
ZeusE-Juice RY4 Double


RY4s unavailable or no longer for sale
AlienVisions Raf-a-licious - discontinued by AVE and no longer for sale
Bauway RY4 - no longer for sale at IndyVaporShop
BackwoodsBrew RY4 - discontinued by BWB and no longer for sale
GoodLifeVapor Hooligan – discontinued by GLV and no longer for sale
HoneyvilleVapor RY4 - vendor site closed, no longer in business
JooglerJuice Joogler's Blend - vendor site closed, no longer in business
Keemer RY3 VG - no longer for sale at GoodProphets
Keemer RY4 VG - no longer for sale at GoodProphets
Mist-Stix RY4 - vendor site closed, no longer in business
MountOlympusVapors RY4 - vendor site closed, no longer in business
MountOlympusVapors Double Happy RY4 - vendor site closed, no longer in business
NewEraVaping RY-4 and New Era - vendor site closed, no longer in business
NiteLiteVapor Renegade - no longer considered an RY4 by vendor
PandaEcigs RY4 - vendor stopped selling juices and offers hardware only
VapeMasters R4 - vendor site closed, no longer in business
VoidMist RY4 (versions 1-3) - vendor site closed, no longer in business
ZeusE-Juice Zeus RY4 Version 1 - replaced by Version 2


Bill’s Reviews of other juices (non-RY4s)
ECSI Jane’s Toasted Toffee Kick Juice - post #867
Heather’sHeavenlyVapes Heavenly Army - post #3442
NiteLiteVapor Caramel Corral - posts #961, #3526
Vapor..... PY4 - post #2061
Mad Mudock’s Radiator Pluid from 310Vapers - post #2554
PinkSpotVapors RY8 - post #2902
Three tobacco blends from IndigoVapors (separate thread)
AliceinVapeland Ravyn - post #3469


Vaping Commentaries
Commentary: About Steeping - post #1273
Commentary: Caramel, Caramel, Caramel - post #1101
Commentary: Determining Classic versus Custom RY4s - post #1873
Commentary: Vaping Strawberry - post #2083
Commentary: So Many Juices, So Little Time - post #2655
Commentary: Comparing 12 Top-Rated RY4s - post #3144
Commentary: The Three Bs of Classic RY4s - post #3196
Commentary: Throat Hit in RY4s - post #3393
Commentary: Tobacco in RY4s - post #3504
Commentary: Distinguishing Classic from Custom RY4s - post #3512
Commentary: Essential Truths About RY4s - post #3612
Commentary: The “Original” RY4 - post #3769
Commentary: RY4 Rankings and Grades - post #4108


Bill’s Top 20 Retail RY4s (my current personal favorites, which change with every update)
1. CrystalELiquid RY4 Double Tobacco - custom
2. Hangsen retail RY4 - classic
3. SmokelessImage Volt RY4 - classic
4. VaporTalk Dulcis - classic
5. HeartlandVapes HY4 - classic
6. Kent’s 2009-2010 Janty RY4 - classic
7. Janty RY4-X (Classic Series) - custom
8. Janty RY4 (DK, Classic, or Elixir Series) - classic
9. NHaler R Why Not - custom
10. MrVape RY4 - classic

11. IndigoVapor Indigo Classic - custom
12. TheVapor’sKnoll OuR-Y4 (formerly Vapor.....) - classic
13. ApolloECigs RY4 - classic
14. AltCigRY4 - custom
14. Halo Tribeca - custom
15. Mister-E-Liquid MrE’s RY4 - custom
16. LiquidXpress Taboo - classic
17. Esmoke4Life Riskee Yuice - classic
18. Ikenvape RY4 Gold - custom
19. RWVapors RY4 - custom
 

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Retail RY4s Grouped by Categories

Stronger Tobacco
AzureVaping RY4.5 (formerly BlueMist)
CloudsOfVapor COV4
CrystalClearVaping RY4
CrystalELiquid RY4 Double Tobacco
DeeJStuff RY4
Dekang RY4
EcigzUSA RY4
Esmoke4Life Riskee Yuice
Goodejuice GJ4
Ikenvape IKV RY4 Gold, PG Blend
Hangsen RY1-4
HappyESmoker Happy E’s Favorite RY4
HighbrowVapor Highbrowbacco RY4
HitLiquid RY4
IndigoVapor Indigo RY
Janty RY4-X (Classic Series)
MaddcattVapors MaddHatter RYW4
Mister-E-Liquid MrE’s RY4
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4
Mom&PopVaporShop RYO4
Moondrop RY42
MountainOakVapors Full Virginia Flake RY4 (in-house NET)
MyVapeCreations RY4
MyVapeCreations CigaRY4
MyVapeJuice Our RY4
MyVapeJuice Rogue RY4
NashvilleVapor Professor Marvel’s Blend
NHaler R Why Not
ParkesVaping PV4
QuickNicJuice ouR whY Qu4tro
Rawr Vapor JY4
Sweet-Vapes RY4
TheVaporRoom Ginger's RY4
VapeKing VK5 (Australia)
VapeRite RY4
Vapor4Life Jammin
VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4
VaporTalk Dulcis
VaporStation VS4
VapourWorld Dekang RY4 Intense
VulcanVape RYGAR

Natural Extract Tobacco (NET)
GoodEJuice GJ4 (in-house NET)
HighbrowVapor Highbrowbacco RY4 (NET, source unknown)
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4 (Tobacco Absolute)
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2 (Tobacco Absolute)
Mom&PopVaporShop RYO4 (Tobacco Extract, a derivative of Tobacco Absolute)
Moondrop RY4 (Tobacco Absolute)
MountainOakVapors Full Virginia Flake RY4 (in-house NET)
MyVapeJuice Rogue RY4 (in-house NET)
PrimeVaping PV4 (NET, unknown source)
QuickNicJuice RY4 (Tobacco Absolute, I think)
QuickNicJuice ouR whY Qu4tro (in-house NET)
SpringVapor Fall Harvest RY4 (Tobacco Absolute)
SpringVapor Black Label RY4 (Tobacco Absolute)
SpringVapor Black Label RY4 - Day and Night (Tobacco Absolute)
VapeRite Organic VR4 (in-house NET)
VapeRite RY4 (in-house NET?)
VaporStation VS4 (Tobacco Absolute/NET blend)
Want2Vape RY4 (in-house NET)

Maximum Throat Hit
Awesome Clouds AC3
AltCig RY4
Dekang RY4
Greenhouse One RY4
Janty RY4 (DK Series)
Janty RY4 (Classic Series)
Janty RY4X (Classic Series)
Janty RY4 PG (Elixir Series)
KalamazooVaporShop RY4
MaddcattVapors MaddHatter RYW4
MyVapeCreations CigaRY4
MyVapeCreations RY4
MyVapeJuice Rogue RY4
TotallyWicked RY4 (Patriot Range)
ValueVapor Dekang RY1-RY2
VapeRite VR4
Vapor4Life Jammin
VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4
VaporStation VS4
VaporTalk Dulcis

Minimum Throat Hit
ApolloECigs RY4
CloudsOfVapor COV4
CrystalELiquid RY4
CrystalELiquid RY4 Double Tobacco
ElixirLiquid RY4
Good Prophets GP4
Heather’sHeavenlyVapes Heavenly Tobacco
MtBakerVapor RY4
OrbVapor Organic RY4
PrimeVaping PV4
QuickNicJuice RY4
SpringVapor Black Label RY4
SpringVapor Fall Harvest RY4
TimelessVapor RY4
VermillionRiver KY4
Want2Vape Rock Star
Want2Vape RY4

Dessert/Sweet
AltCig RY4
AltSmoke HighCaliber Our 4
Awesome Clouds AC3
Bloog RY4
CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
CrystalELiquid RY4
DIYFlavorShack Sweet RY4
EcigExpress My 4
GoodEJuice RY4
GoodProphets GP4
GreenhouseOne RY4
Hangsen RY4
Janty RY4 (DK Series)
Janty RY4 (Classic Series)
Janty RY4-X (Classic Series)
Janty RY4 PG (Elixir Series)
KalamazooVaporShop RY4
KickBassVapor RY4
MaddcattVapors MaddHatter RYJ4
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4
QuickNicVapor RY4
SmokeForPennys RY4
SmokelessImage Volt RY4
VapeDoctor RY4
Vapor4Life Jammin
Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4
Vixen Vapors RY4

Sweet & Sour
ApolloECigs RY4
Janty RY4 (DK Series)
Janty RY4 (Classic Series)
Janty RY4-X (Classic Series)
Janty RY4 PG or VG (Elixir Series)
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2
MyVapeCreations RY4 (not sweet)
MyVapeCreations CigaRY4 (not sweet)
ParkesVaping RY4
TheVapor’sKnoll OuR-Y4 (formerly Vapor.....)
Totally Wicked RY4 (Patriot Range)
Vapebar RY4-LE (Australia)
VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4
Vaporescence RY4
VermillionRiver KY4

Nutty
ElixirLiquid RY4
Ikenvape IKV RY4 Gold, PG Blend
FlavourArtUK Nutzilla
HappyESmoker Happy E’s Favorite RY4
HealthCabin house-brand RY4
HighbrowVapor Highbrowbacco RY4
KalamazooVaporShop RY4
LiquidXpress Taboo
ParkesVaping RY4
QuickNicVapor RY4
VapeKing VK4 (Australia)
VapeKing VK5 (Australia)
VapeRite RY4
VaporTalk Dulcis

Caramel Rich
AltCig RY4
CloudsOfVapor COV4
CopperCreek Voodoo
CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
CrystalELiquid RY4
DIYFlavorShack Caramel RY4
DIYFlavorShack Caramel-Vanilla RY4
EcigExpress My 4
EliteVaporworks RY4
GoodEJuice RY4
GourmetVapor RY4
Greenhouse One RY4
HighDesertVapes Myshell’s RY4
Madvapes Top Vapor Mad 4
Mister-E-Liquid MrE’s RY4
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2
Moondrop RY42
MyVapeJuice Our RY4
NashvilleVapor Professor Marvel’s Blend
KickBassVapor RY4
LiquidXpress Taboo
ParkesVaping PV4
PrimeVaping PV4
Rawr Vapor JY4
TheVaporPro RY4
TimelessVapor RY4
TopShelfVapes RY4
VapeRite Organic VR4
VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4
Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4
Vixen Vapors RY4
Want2Vape RY4

Vanilla Rich
CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
DIYFlavorShack Caramel-Vanilla RY4
FeelLife RY4
FreedomSmokeUSA RY4
MaddcattVapors MaddHatter RYJ4
PrimeVaping PV4
QuickNicVapor RY4
Revolver RY4
Sweet-Vapes RY4

Liqueur
HighbrowVapor Highbrowbacco RY4
QuickNicVapor RY4
MaddCattVapors MaddHatter RYJ5
Vixen Vapors RY4

Balanced/Blended
ApolloEcigs RY4
AwesomeVapor RY4
BestEcig RY4
Bloog RY4
CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
CrystalELiquid RY4
CrystalELiquid RY4 Double Tobacco
DeeJStuff RY4
Dekang RY4
DIYFlavorShack RY4 Aces
ECBlend Ruyan 4 (lite recipe)
EliteVaporworks RY4
ElixirLiquid RY4
GoodEJuice RY4
GoodProphets GP4
GreenhouseOne RY4
Halo Tribeca
Hangsen RY1-4
HappyESmoker Happy E’s Favorite RY4
HealthCabin house-brand RY4
HeartlandVapes HY4
HopE-Liquids Are You 4 Real?
IndigoVapor Indigo RY
IndigoVapor Indigo Classic
Janty RY4 (DK Series)
Janty RY4 (Classic Series)
Janty RY4 PG (Elixir Series)
KalamazooVaporShop RY4
MountainOakVapors Full Virginia Flake RY4
MrVape RY4
MyVapeJuice Rogue RY4
NHaler R Why Not
OrbVapor Organic RY4
ParkesVaping RY4
PrimeVaping PV4
RevolutionVapor RY-4
RWVapors RY4
SmokeForPennys RY4
SmokelessImage Volt RY4
SpringVapor Black Label RY4
SpringVapor Fall Harvest RY4
SpringVapor Black Label RY4 Day and Night
TheVapor’sKnoll OuR-Y4 (formerly Vapor.....)
TotallyWicked RY4 (Patriot Range)
Vapebar RY4-LE (Australia)
VapeBIG RY4
VapeKing VK4 (Australia)
VapeRite RY4
VapingXtreme R-YLD-4
Vapor4Life Jammin
VaporStation RY4
VaporStation VS4
VaporTalk Dulcis
VapourWorld Dekang RY4 Intense

Distinctive (atypical)
AltSmoke HighCaliber Our 4
AzureVaping RY4 (formerly BlueMist)
AzureVaping RY4.5 (formerly BlueMist)
CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
CopperCreek Voodoo
DarkCityVapor Wild Bill
DIYFlavorShack RY4
DIYFlavorShack Caramel RY4
DIYFlavorShack Caramel-Vanilla RY4
DIYFlavorShack Holy Holy Grail RY4
DIYFlavorShack Caramel-Vanilla RY4
DIYFlavorShack Sweet RY4
ECSI Jane’s RY4 Kick Liquid
FlavourArt oRYental 4
FreedomSmokeUSA RY4
FreedomSmokeUSA RY5
Goodejuice GJ4
Halo Tribeca
Hangsen RY1
HighbrowVapor Highbrowbacco RY4
HopE-Liquids Are You 4 Real?
IndyVaporShop Bauway RY4
KickBassVapor RY4
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2
Mom&PopVaporShop RYO4
Moondrop RY42
MountainOakVapor Classic CountRY-4
MountainOakVapors Full Virginia Flake RY4
MountBakerVapor RY4
MyVapeJuice Rogue RY4
OrbVapor Organic RY4
ParkesVaping PV4
PrimeVaping PV4
QuickNicVapor RY4
QuickNicJuice ouR whY Qu4tro
RevolutionVapor RY-4
SpringVapor Black Label RY4
SpringVapor Fall Harvest RY4
TheVaporRoom Ginger's RY4
TimelessVapor RY4
VapeKing VK5 (Australia)
VapeRite Organic VR4
VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4
Vaporescence RY4
Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4
Want2Vape Rock Star
ZeusE-Juice Creamy RY4
ZeusE-Juice Zeus’ RY4

So-So (undistinguished)
HotVapes RY4
ParkesVaping RY4
VaporRenu Re(4)nu
Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4
 

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The Really Big RY4 Report Card

The grades given for these retail RY4s are my opinion only. They are also current judgments and may differ from grades I gave in the past. So please understand that if you base a buying decision solely on this list, you might end up getting an RY4 that I like rather than one you’ll like, since my tastes and palate are unlikely to match yours perfectly---in some cases, not even remotely.

Within each grade, the RY4s are listed in alphabetical order. This kind of judging is ridiculous enough without splitting hairs or nit-picking between RY4s within the same grade.

For vendor links and original review post numbers, as well as Category Groups, please refer to the most recent update of The Big RY4 List (the posts right above this one).

Did I mention that these grades are my opinion only? LOL.

A
CrystalELiquid RY4 Double Tobacco - custom
Hangsen RY4 - classic
IndigoVapor Indigo Classic - custom
Janty RY4 2009-2010 - classic (from KentC, no longer available)
Janty RY4 (DK Series) - classic
Janty RY4 (Classic Series) - classic
Janty RY4 (Elixir Series) - classic
Mister-E-Liquid MrE’s RY4 - custom
MrVape RY4 - classic
SmokelessImageVolt RY4 - classic
VaporTalk Dulcis - classic

A-
ElixirLiquid RY4 - classic
Halo Tribeca - custom
HealthCabin Dekang RY4 - classic
Ikenvape RY4 Gold PG - custom
Janty RY4-X (Classic Series) - classic
Joyetech RY4 - classic
LiquidXpress Taboo - classic
Nhaler R Why Not - custom
QuickNicJuice ouR whY qu4tro - NET-based custom
RWVapors RY4 - custom
Vapor’sKnoll OuR-Y4 - classic
VapourWorld Dekang RY4 Intense - custom

B+
AlienVisions Raf-a-licious (discontinued/unavailable) - classic
AltCig RY4 - custom
ApolloECigs RY4 - classic
Awesome Clouds AC3 - custom
Bloog RY4 - custom
Esmoke4Life Riskee Yuice - classic
GoodEJuice GJ4 - NET-based custom
IndigoVapor Indigo RY - custom
HitLiquid RY4 - classic
KickBassVapor RY4 - custom
MountainOakVapors Full Virginia Flake RY4 - NET-based custom
Sweet-Vapes RY4 - classic
TopShelfVapes RY4 - custom
TotallyWicked RY4 (Patriot Range) - custom
Vapor4Life Jammin - (discontinued/unavailable) - custom
Vapebar RY4-LE (Australia) -custom
VapeKing VK5 (Australia) - custom
VapeRite VR4 - custom
VaporStation VS4 - custom
Want2Vape RY4 - NET-based custom

B
BackwoodsBrew RY4 (discontinued/unavailable) - custom
BestEcig RY4 - classic
BombayVaping RY4 - custom
BombayVaping RY5 - custom
CloudsOfVapor COV4 - custom
CrystalClearVaping RY4 - custom
CrystalELiquid RY4 - classic
DIYFlavorShack Caramel-Vanilla RY4 - custom
ECBlend RY4 - custom
ECBlend Spicy RY4 - custom
EcigzUSA RY4 - custom
ECSI Jane’s RY4 Kick Liquid - custom
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2 - TA-based custom
Moondrop RY42 - TA-based custom
MountainOakVapors Classic CountRY-4 - custom
MyVapeJuice Our RY4 - classic
MyVapeJuice Rogue RY4 - NET-based custom
NashvilleVapor Professor Marvel’s Blend - custom
ParkesVaping PV4 - custom
SpringVapor Black Label RY4 Day and Night - classic
VapeBIG RY4 - custom
VapeKing VK4 (Australia) - custom
VapeSales Gold Label RY4(squared) - classic
VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4 - custom
Vaporescence RY4 - classic
Vixen Vapors RY4 - custom
Want2Vape Rock Star - custom

B-
AltSmoke AltLiquid RY4 - custom
AzureMist RY4.5 (formerly Bluemist) - custom
GoodProphets GP4 - custom
GreenhouseOne RY4 - custom
HappyESmoker Happy E’s Favorite RY4 - custom
HeartlandVapes HY4 - classic
Heather’sHeavenlyVapes Heavenly Tobacco - custom
Hotvapes RY4 - custom
MaddcattVapors MaddHatter RYW4 - custom
MtBakerVapor RY4 - custom
MyVapeCreations CigaRY4 - custom
QuickNicJuice RY4 - custom
PrimeVaping PV4 - custom
RevolutionVapor RY-4
SpringVapor Black Label RY4 - custom
TimelessVapor RY4 - custom
ValueVapor Dekang RY1-RY2 - custom
VapingXtreme R-YLD-4 - classic
VulcanVape w2v Rygar - custom
ZeusE-Juice Creamy RY4 - custom

C+
DarkCityVapor Wild Bill
DIYFlavorShack Holy Holy Grail RY4 - custom
DIYFlavorShack RY4 Aces - classic
EliteVaporworks RY4 - custom
HighbrowVapor Highbrowbacco RY4 - custom
HighDesertVapes Myshell’s RY4 - custom
KalamazooVaporShop RY4 - custom
Madvapes Mad 4 - custom
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4 - TA-based custom
Mom&PopVaporShop RYO4 - TE-based custom
SmokeForPennys RY4 - custom
SpringVapor Fall Harvest RY4 - custom
VapeDoctor RY4 - custom
TheVaporRoom Ginger’s RY4 - custom

C
DeeJStuff RY4 - custom
DIYFlavorShack Caramel RY4 - custom
GoodEJuice RY4 - classic
GourmetVapor RY4 - custom
HealthCabin house-brand RY4 - classic
HoneyvilleVapor RY4 - custom
MaddcattVapors MaddHatter RYJ4 - custom
ParkesVaping RY4 - custom
VermillionRiver KY4 - custom
ZeusE-Juice Zeus’ RY4 Version 1 - custom

C-
AzureMist RY4 (formerly Bluemist) - custom
Copper Creek Voodoo - custom
DIYFlavorShack RY4 - custom
DIYFlavorShack Sweet RY4 - custom
FreedomSmokeUSA RY5 - custom
Good Prophets GP4 - custom
Greenhouse One RY4 - custom
Liberty-Flights Hangsen RY1-RY3 - custom
MyVapeCreations RY4 - custom
OrbVapor Organic RY4 VG - custom
VapeRite RY4 - classic

D+
ECBlend RY4 with double-extra caramel - custom
FreedomSmokeUSA RY4 - custom
HighCaliber Our 4 - custom
MaddCattVapors MaddHatter RyJ5 - custom
Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4 (same juice) - custom

D
CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco - custom
FeelLife RY4 - custom
TheVaporPro RY4 - custom

D-
VaporRenu Re4nu - custom
FreedomSmokeUSA FlavourArt oRYental 4 - custom

F
Bauway RY4 (no known vendor availability, thankfully) - custom
 
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