The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

[billherbst]

Well, I checked out esmoke.net. I'm afraid it's not a vendor I'd be inclined to buy anything from. Another of those sites for newbies (as On Target admits that he was when he found them via Google) that sells mini-cig starter kits for inflated prices and then proclaims them "The World's Leading Electronic Cigarettes." Yeah, sure. Tell me another joke.

Plus, their juice is $13 plus shipping for a 15ml bottle.

I'm glad their "tobacco RY4" was pretty good after steeping, but I won't be vaping any of it.

 

[On Target]

That is exactly right! I will not be buying any more of it myself. I am much more "educated" now thanks to billherbst's thread LOL. There are too many other vendors out there but I must admit, at least this bottle will not be going into the trash and it was not a complete waste of money on my part.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

While on the topic of Vanilla Tobacco, I received a 30 ml bottle as contest winnings from AwsomeCloud.com today. It leans heavily toward the Vanilla end of the spectrum and has an intereting cedary taste to it. Amber-Orange in color.

 

[passerbyeus]

I got my eSmokers RY4 in and Jammin, first I am not going to even comment on eSmokers with juices like that I would let ogredog to order first lol.anyways to the good stuff..
I made a comment of Vapor4Lifes RY4 how was in the middle road with it and wanteding to try again I have had my eye on a new but not so new line of Nobacco juice they have to I jumped on the $9.99 30ml sale they had of Jammin and here is the details from the site.

Treat and tame your sweet tooth with this perfectly balanced juggling act of mild, sweet tobacco and other sweet undertones. Visions of sugar plums may dance in your head, but vaping sensations of vanilla and caramel will twirl your tastebuds in delicious, dessert-like ecstasy.

This is about right, this RY4 is sweet and more than likely the most sweetest RY4 I have ever had. It is not a in your face taste more of a light sweet creamy caramel vanilla tobacco and I do get hints of burnt sugar, the good thing about it it does not have that strong base the rest have. This is not a bad RY4 and its like in the Janty line without the sour though there is just a little on the out, also did I mention its sweet, really sweet dont say you was not warned. I will keep this one not sure if I will order another bottle I will see when its gone. It is well worth the try and I am glad I did.Jammin Nobacco E-Juice USA for all E-Cigs | Vapor4Life

 

[ogredog]

Pas I am not sure what it is your saying is it real crappy? I haven't tried it yet. If its bad just say so lol

 

[billherbst]

It leans heavily toward the Vanilla end of the spectrum and has an interesting cedary taste to it.

I hope I don't put my foot in it with this comment, but if I do, well, it won't be the first time.

OK, here goes: To everyone in general, what is the deal with all these cedar-pine tobacco juices? Is it something in the extraction process that produces that flavor? Or just flavor chemists gone cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffs? I can't remember anything from my 38 years of smoking that tasted like cedar or pine. No, I'm sorry, but those are trees, not tobacco plants.

I guess juices with that flavor might be OK if the cedar element is really subtle and nuanced, but too often those juices remind me of Pine-Sol, which may be a fine scent when cleaning a kitchen floor, but (to me at least) makes for a less-than-yummy flavor as a vaping liquid.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

I'm not detecting pine here. Something in some deep, distant memory does however seem to equate to some spicey vanilla to cedary-taste connnection. That note is moderate. Then again, I could be making that thought up. Afterall, I'm a fellow who thinks Cam-Tel tastes patchouli-like.

 

[passerbyeus]

dont forget sage

I hope I don't put my foot in it with this comment, but if I do, well, it won't be the first time.

OK, here goes: To everyone in general, what is the deal with all these cedar-pine tobacco juices? Is it something in the extraction process that produces that flavor? Or just flavor chemists gone cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffs? I can't remember anything from my 38 years of smoking that tasted like cedar or pine. No, I'm sorry, but those are trees, not tobacco plants.

I guess juices with that flavor might be OK if the cedar element is really subtle and nuanced, but too often those juices remind me of Pine-Sol, which may be a fine scent when cleaning a kitchen floor, but (to me at least) makes for a less-than-yummy flavor as a vaping liquid.

 

[ogredog]

What's wrong with vaping pine sol? Its like a liter for 3 bucks lol

 

[Roxxette]

What's wrong with vaping pine sol? Its like a liter for 3 bucks lol

Deal of the week !

 

[Briar]

Actually, while I was trying to fish for nuances in MOV's CCRY4, I realized that when you combine a citrus note with a smoky note, you sometimes get what could be translated as "piney". I suspect there are citrus notes in some tobaccos, and so at higher temps, especially, that's what happens.

I've never had a flavor where that was a strong note - just a nuance here and there - but, actually, I like it quite a lot, and I don't think I'd mind it if it was stronger. It has good associations for me. But, there is pine, and there is pine. To me, pine-sol is to pine is like Jolly Rancher is to watermelon. Tastes vary, of course, but the point is that they are not the same.

Besides, vape tobacco doesn't have to be the same as pipe tobacco or any other tobacco, imho - different media, different flavors.

But, then, I'm about to get me some herbal tinctures, and try vaping them. I've also been known to wear perfume that was called "Dirt" and smelled like the name implied. OK, I'm weird.

I hope I don't put my foot in it with this comment, but if I do, well, it won't be the first time.

OK, here goes: To everyone in general, what is the deal with all these cedar-pine tobacco juices? Is it something in the extraction process that produces that flavor? Or just flavor chemists gone cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffs? I can't remember anything from my 38 years of smoking that tasted like cedar or pine. No, I'm sorry, but those are trees, not tobacco plants.

I guess juices with that flavor might be OK if the cedar element is really subtle and nuanced, but too often those juices remind me of Pine-Sol, which may be a fine scent when cleaning a kitchen floor, but (to me at least) makes for a less-than-yummy flavor as a vaping liquid.

 

[Briar]

Um... Is that a real cat?..

Deal of the week !

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[billherbst]

Briar,

Interesting thought: citrus + smokey = piney. Maybe so.

I'd guess that you're in good company about this whole cedar-pine business, and that many people would agree with you. I'm probably the odd-palate-out on this one. More taste-is-subjective stuff. Some people love butterscotch. I don't. Same with cedar-pine. In the cafeteria of life, I'll just pass by the cedar-pine dish and leave more of it for those that like it.

 

[On Target]

Actually, while I was trying to fish for nuances in MOV's CCRY4, I realized that when you combine a citrus note with a smoky note, you sometimes get what could be translated as "piney". I suspect there are citrus notes in some tobaccos, and so at higher temps, especially, that's what happens.

I've never had a flavor where that was a strong note - just a nuance here and there - but, actually, I like it quite a lot, and I don't think I'd mind it if it was stronger. It has good associations for me. But, there is pine, and there is pine. To me, pine-sol is to pine is like Jolly Rancher is to watermelon. Tastes vary, of course, but the point is that they are not the same.

Besides, vape tobacco doesn't have to be the same as pipe tobacco or any other tobacco, imho - different media, different flavors.

But, then, I'm about to get me some herbal tinctures, and try vaping them. I've also been known to wear perfume that was called "Dirt" and smelled like the name implied. OK, I'm weird.

This "piney" taste is one I personally have not experienced yet in my still young vaping life. I should have my MOV sampler pack tomorrow - will have to give a short review (my literary skills are average at best ) of the CountRY4 in a couple of days. I am not sure I will like pine, does not sound tempting IMO. Guess I will find out soon.

 

[Briar]

This "piney" taste is one I personally have not experienced yet in my still young vaping life. I should have my MOV sampler pack tomorrow - will have to give a short review (my literary skills are average at best ) of the CountRY4 in a couple of days. I am not sure I will like pine, does not sound tempting IMO. Guess I will find out soon.

Oh, don't worry, CCRY4 rocks - most people who try it like it, it seems. Just don't expect a typical Chinese-like RY4. It's a very complex flavor, and this is just one of the bare hints of a nuance at a particular power - I don't think most people will even notice it as such. It just tends to get dryer and smokier at higher voltages. It's one of those chameleon-ish flavors: in has a stable, nice, smooth base, and then lots of different nuances peak out with different circumstances.

P.S.: Please let it steep for a week. You really won't get the flavor as it is meant to be unless that happens. Even the folks who make it recommend that.

 

[passerbyeus]

This kinda of stuff just cant be made up.... I love this thread.....

 

[On Target]

Thanks Briar for the insight. My palate is still waking up from 38 years of analog abuse and I probably will not notice all the chameleon-ish flavors, but I hope I do! Sounds very tempting and I will probably be like Bill in that I will go ahead and fill up a clearo and puff away. My curiosity will get the better of me! Will try it again after a week and comare my thoughts. Thanks again.

 

[Briar]

Oh, sure, I know what that's like. Smoked for 32 years, myself, and now just over a three year old vaper. Believe it or not, I just now started tasting the vape flavor on the inhale - that's one of the reasons I started writing reviews, out of sheer excitement! (I only tasted juice on the exhale before, which was fine and tasty and all, but I was definitely missing a part of the experience) And also because there are so many good juices out there, it's just plain fun discovering them and sharing thoughts.

And, yeah, I'm also curious - badly! LOL Waiting for something to steep just kills me. What I do to alleviate that a little is that I do try them every day after I get them, but I don't fill a carto, I direct drip, instead. This is interesting in and of itself, because I can trace the progress of the juice, observe how it changes, and if it doesn't change in two days in a row, I know it's ready for prime time.

Tobacco juices take longest to steep (not my opinion, but the flavorists'), sometimes a month or more. I found, for instance, that Boba's Bounty changes for about two months... It's a dessert-y vape right from the mail box, and becomes a tobacco-y vape at the end - to my palate, anyway. With Boba's YMMV more than most.

MOV pre-steepes their juices, so a week, or even five days, is quite enough for their tobaccos, and with non-tobacco liquids ( but I only tried two of those, so I'd make sure if I were you) two days - or none - should be fine. Their Georgia Peach was great on arrival and hasn't changed since then.

Have fun.

Thanks Briar for the insight. My palate is still waking up from 38 years of analog abuse and I probably will not notice all the chameleon-ish flavors, but I hope I do! Sounds very tempting and I will probably be like Bill in that I will go ahead and fill up a clearo and puff away. My curiosity will get the better of me! Will try it again after a week and comare my thoughts. Thanks again.

 

[passerbyeus]

My top 3 RY4s...

1.Mountain Oak Classic CountRY4 Mountain Oak Vapors Classic CountRY4 - A traditional RY4 blend - 100% Made in the USA. Enjoy delicious vanilla, a touch of caramel, and a dash of our original tobacco.

2.Vapor4Life Jammin Jammin Nobacco E-Juice USA for all E-Cigs | Vapor4Life

3.Vapor..... OuR-Y4 OuR-Y4

 

[billherbst]

Waiting for something to steep just kills me. What I do to alleviate that a little is that I do try them every day after I get them, but I don't fill a carto, I direct drip, instead. This is interesting in and of itself, because I can trace the progress of the juice, observe how it changes, and if it doesn't change in two days in a row, I know it's ready for prime time.

I'd like to give that a "+1" and just leave it at that, but ECF doesn't allow one-word posts, so I'll add more (as usual). I keep a couple of dripping rigs set up on my desk for trying new flavors that just arrived and also for re-visiting juices in my stash that I didn't like well enough to sacrifice a carto for. That happens almost every day, usually with results that confirm my former rejections. Every so often, however, (or "once in a blue moon," as my Mom would say when I was a kid), I'll drip a loser juice and find that many months of steeping has magically transformed it into a winner. That's always a pleasant surprise, although usually it's just drek before, drek now.

I also keep four bottom-feeders loaded up and at the ready for daily use (two at my desk and two more upstairs at my bedside), but I don't drip into those, because the hybrid attys (HH357 and i06s) I use on my bottom-feeders are too good to sully by running any other juice through them except their dedicated flavors. Currently, my bottom-fed juices of choice are Boba's, Aroma Turkish Blend, Mr.Vape Special Blend, and Kona Coffee Milkshake---all of which are delicious in cartos and tanks, of course, but fantastic in hybrid atties. For testing juices, I use regular old garbage atties (meaning less high-quality)---LR306s and the occasional 510.