The Second NETTy Awards!

[Dustmight]

Best NET Overall
1. Smooth Criminal - Ahlusion
2. Vital Bella - GeJ
3. Sahara - Ahlusion

Best Sweeter NET
1. Caramel Wild Wood - Ahlusion
2. Honey Cured - Ahlusion
3.

Best Drier NET
1. Sahara - Ahlusion
2.

Best Fruit tobacco
1.
2.

Best Flavored tobacco
1. Caramel Wild Wood- Ahlusion
2. Vurley - Ahlusion

Best Pipe
1. Vita Bella- GeJ
2. Balkan - NET.com

Best Turkish/Oriental Blend
1. Oriental - NET.com
2. Sahara - Ahlusion

Best NET RY4
1. Full Virginia Flake RY4 - MOV

Best Synthetic/non-NET tobacco
1. Bangkok Dangerous - Good Life Vapor
2. Boba's Bounty - AVE
3.

 

[Frankenmizer]

Best NET Overall
1. Chivalry - House of Liquids
2. Sun Cured Turkish - NETcom
3. Reserve - House of Liquids

Best Sweeter NET
1.
2.
3.

Best Drier NET
1. Sun Cured Turkish - NETcom
2.
3.

Best Single Varietal
1. Air Cured Burley - NETcom
2. Fire Cured Burley - NETcom
3. Smoked Latakia - NETcom

Best Fruit Tobacco
1.
2.
3.

Best Flavored Tobacco
1. Brasiliero - House of Liquids
2.
3.

Best Cigar
1. 3 Crown - NETcom
2. Balkan - NETcom
3.

Best Pipe
1. Black Cherry - NETcom
2.
3.

Best Cigarette
1. NS Brown - NETcom
2.
3.

Best English/Latakia Blend
1. Balkan - NETcom
2.
3.

Best Turkish/Oriental Blend
1.
2.
3.

Best NET RY4
1.
2.
3.

Best Synthetic/non-NET tobacco
1.
2.
3.


..now in glorious lurque mode from the Vast And Prohibitively Expensive Laboratory somewhere in Frankenmizeria..

 

[jefsview]

oooo, everyone is using the long-form

 

[TexasVet]

BALLOT REVISED

Best NET Overall
1. Peachy Criminal (Ahl) move over O >>>>Orange Creamsicle (Ahl)
2. Apple Wild Wood (Ahl)
3. Full Virginia Flake RY4 (MOV)

Best Sweeter NET
1. Peachy Criminal (Ahl)
2. Apple Wild Wood (Ahl)
3. Vita Bella (GeJ)

Best Drier NET
1. Patriot (GeJ)
2. Organic#1 (GeJ)
2. Huntsman (HHV)

Best Fruit Tobacco
1. I guess this category confuses me
2. I guess I haven't vaped any
3. I wouldn't know what this is if I slipped on the peel/rind

Best Flavored Tobacco
1. Apple Wildwood (Ahl)
2. Vita Bella (GeJ)
3. Shipwreck (Ahl)

Best Pipe
1. Patriot (GeJ)
2. Black Cavendish (N-E-T)

Best NET RY4
1. Full Virginia Flake RY4 (MOV)
2. GJ4 (GeJ)
3. Heathers Heavenly Tobacco (HHV)

Best Synthetic/non-NET tobacco
1. Tribeca (Halo)

Honorable mentions:
Heavenly Army (HHV)


Not nearly a far ranging vaper yet and maybe not ever, due to all the help/advice given in the Big RY4 list, Natural Tobacco threads.

disclaimer: I reserve the right to change my budds preferences at any time.

 

[MFToms59]

TexasVet, is Orange Creamsicle a Tobacco juice?

 

[Mr.Mann]

I need guidance: are Ahlusion's River Tree Blends NETs, or not?

Every tobacco Ahlsuion sells contains some extract -- some are straight tobacco extract, and some (like RTBs and HBs) are very little extract + other flavors, but all NET nonetheless.

 

[Blacks_n_Jacks]

Every tobacco Ahlsuion sells contains some extract -- some are straight tobacco extract, and some (like RTBs and HBs) are very little extract + other flavors, but all NET nonetheless.

Thanks for clarifying, u da Mann.

 

[Jerms]

Best NET Overall
1. Orange Creamsicle (Ahl)


Best Fruit Tobacco
2. Lemon Cream (Ahl)
3. Voodoo (Halo)

If you say so buddy
Ballot counted.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Thanks for clarifying, u da Mann.

Note: I never said that I could taste the tobacco in those, but it's there! LOL. Naw, in some of the steeped RTBs (not high on VG) I can taste the extract, but it's more of a feel than a taste. With the HBs, well, it's in there somewhere.

 

[SharonMM]

I need guidance: are Ahlusion's River Tree Blends NETs, or not?

Cut/paste from the website-

Cherry River Tree:

This is from our River Tree Blend series of tobacco FLAVORS. This is a non-Aromatic blend.

The River Tree Blend line is not a signature Ahlusion creation and is not based on Ahlusion tobacco extracts.

House Blend:

Based on our natural tobacco extracts. This is a non-Aromatic blend.

 

[Blacks_n_Jacks]

Note: I never said that I could taste the tobacco in those, but it's there! LOL. Naw, in some of the steeped RTBs (not high on VG) I can taste the extract, but it's more of a feel than a taste. With the HBs, well, it's in there somewhere.

Ya know, I do get some tobacco in the River Tree Blends, along with............some other stuff. I wish I could figure them out, but alas, that is part of what makes me continue to try them out. The House Blends -- yeah, I agree with you. They're still not touching Vecchio's "lost tobacco" level for me, though.

Anyways -- I'd like to submit my vote as well for Lemon Cream in the NETtys. Hey, it goes in the sweeter NET category, right? But which would I bump from the list?

 

[Mr.Mann]

Cut/paste from the website-

Cherry River Tree:

This is from our River Tree Blend series of tobacco FLAVORS. This is a non-Aromatic blend.

The River Tree Blend line is not a signature Ahlusion creation and is not based on Ahlusion tobacco extracts.

House Blend:

Based on our natural tobacco extracts. This is a non-Aromatic blend.

I asked Wlad about that a waze back when and he said "not based on Ahlusion tobacco extracts" means that the tobacco extract used for the RTBs was not used in any of their regular line, i.e., "Ahlusion extracts". However, he has made many revisions of the RTBs since 2012 (though, interestingly enough the wording on the site remains the same), but I only had them in early 2013 so I can't speak to any changes. As many of you know, he created the WW series based off the RTBs. I am only speculating, but I think he took the ingredient profile of RTBs and substituted all Ahlusion-based flavorings to model those after the RTB counterparts.

This is an excerpt of an email exchange with Wlad from August of 2012. I had asked about all of his tobaccos, and in particular the RTBs not containing tobacco extracts. I wanted to know if they were artificially flavored with zero tobacco extract (I referred to extract as "tobacco DNA").

"All our tobaccos are contain real tobacco (DNA as you say it) and both go through a very involved process – just the type of tobacco which makes that distinction in classification...

"...The only other line of tobaccos which I already mentioned in that damned “River Tree line”, which contains even less tobacco DNA..."

What I take from that is there is some (even if very little) extract used in the RTBs, and not an extract used in his made-for-Ahlusion line. Does any of this matter? Maybe for this thread, but if it's good to you, vape it. If you want to really taste tobacco, not just as a taste-feel, you might want to look elsewhere.

 

[SharonMM]

I asked Wlad about that a waze back when and he said "not based on Ahlusion tobacco extracts" means that the tobacco extract used for the RTBs was not used in any of their regular line, i.e., "Ahlusion extracts". However, he has made many revisions of the RTBs since 2012 (though, interestingly enough the wording on the site remains the same), but I only had them in early 2013 so I can't speak to any changes. As many of you know, he created the WW series based off the RTBs. I am only speculating, but I think he took the ingredient profile of RTBs and substituted all Ahlusion-based flavorings to model those after the RTB counterparts.

This is an excerpt of an email exchange with Wlad from August of 2012. I had asked about all of his tobaccos, and in particular the RTBs not containing tobacco extracts. I wanted to know if they were artificially flavored with zero tobacco extract (I referred to extract as "tobacco DNA").

"All our tobaccos are contain real tobacco (DNA as you say it) and both go through a very involved process – just the type of tobacco which makes that distinction in classification...

"...The only other line of tobaccos which I already mentioned in that damned “River Tree line”, which contains even less tobacco DNA..."

What I take from that is there is some (even if very little) extract used in the RTBs, and not an extract used in his made-for-Ahlusion line. Does any of this matter? Maybe for this thread, but if it's good to you, vape it. If you want to really taste tobacco, not just as a taste-feel, you might want to look elsewhere.

Thanks for the breakdown, MM. I figured you had had a behind the scenes conversation with Wlad leading you to your conclusions. I just wanted to point out, that to someone reading *just* the website descriptions (like me, for example), the way its worded, it doesn't really indicate that RTB a NET. But it makes total that they are, at least a little bit NET.

 

[TexasVet]

TexasVet, is Orange Creamsicle a Tobacco juice?

/I shrug. Beats me, I just went on the quote 'All Ahlusion juices are N-E-Ts'.

Seriously, I'll remove the entry if it isn't. I don't taste any tobacco nor is it referenced in their description of it.

@18mg nic, my conclusion, right or wrong, is that 'nicotine' comes from tobacco... or some chemistry lab, which I hope Wlad doesn't use.

So, educate me.

Jerms?, Mann?, jefsview? anyone?

If you say so buddy

So, I can't remove the entry, or any other incorrect entry, so count it as a ZERO (no vote).

I was so thrilled about waving the flag for my outstanding juice, I guess I forgot it didn't qualify here.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Thanks for the breakdown, MM. I figured you had had a behind the scenes conversation with Wlad leading you to your conclusions. I just wanted to point out, that to someone reading *just* the website descriptions (like me, for example), the way its worded, it doesn't really indicate that RTB a NET. But it makes total that they are, at least a little bit NET.

Somebody like you and me! I thought the same thing after reading it and even after tasting it. But I think that the tobacco used in the RTBs is more of a other-flavor-balancer than an ingredient used to be showcased. Now in the WWs, I think the tobacco used is really intended to be part of the act (it tastes like it).

/I shrug. Beats me, I just went on the quote 'All Ahlusion juices are N-E-Ts'.

Seriously, I'll remove the entry if it isn't. I don't taste any tobacco nor is it referenced in their description of it.

@18mg nic, my conclusion, right or wrong, is that 'nicotine' comes from tobacco... or some chemistry lab, which I hope Wlad doesn't use.

So, educate me.

Jerms?, Mann?, jefsview? anyone?

haha! I don't know where you read "All Ahlusion juices are N-E-Ts," but if you read something similar it was that all Ahlusion's tobaccos are.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Any reports back yet on the new HHV tobaccos?

Anyone else, besides bill, try the new MVJ cigars?

 

[piggy]

Best NET Overall
1. Patriot - GEJ
2. BGB - Ahlusion
3.

Best Sweeter NET
1. Huntsman - HHV
2.
3.

Best Drier NET
1. BGB- Ahlusion
2. Devil Dog - Ahlusion
3.

Best Single Varietal
1. BGB - Ahlusion
2. Perique - GEJ
3.


Best Flavored Tobacco
1. Huntsman - HHV
2. Dragons Fire - HHV
3.

Best Cigar
1. Devil Dog - Ahlusion
2.
3.

Best Pipe
1. Perique- GEJ
2.
3.


Best Synthetic/non-NET tobacco
1. Apple Shisha - EHookah USA
2. Congo Craze - GEJ
3.

 

[jefsview]

Any reports back yet on the new HHV tobaccos?

Anyone else, besides bill, try the new MVJ cigars?

The reports from the HHV sub-forum have been mostly positive, albeit steeping is still being done.

 

[charlzrocks]

Best NET Overall
1. Smoker - Parkes Vaping
2. KY4 - Vermillion River
3. K-Max - Vermillion River

Best Sweeter NET
1. KY4 - Vermillion River
2. Applewood Tobacco - Vermillion River
3. Voodoo - Halo

Best Drier NET
1.
2.
3.

Best Single Varietal
1.
2.
3.

Best Fruit Tobacco
1. Carmel Apple Tobacco - Maddcatt Vapors
2. Applewood Tobacco - Vermillion River
3.

Best Flavored Tobacco
1. KY4 - Vermillion River
2. Bobas Bounty- AIV
3. Honey Flue Tobacco - Maddcatt Vapors

Best Cigar
1. Cowboy Killer - Vermillion River
2.
3.

Best Pipe
1. Midnight Express - Niquid
2.
3.

Best Cigarette
1. Smoker - Parkes Vaping
2. K-Max - Vermillion River
3.

Best English/Latakia Blend
1.
2.
3.

Best Turkish/Oriental Blend
1. Turkish Blend - Parkes Vaping
2.
3.

Best NET RY4
1. KY4 - Vermillion River
2. RYW4 - Maddcatt Vapors
3. RY4 - Parkes Vaping

Best Synthetic/non-NET tobacco
1. 555 - SI/Volt
2. RY4 - SI/Volt
3. Desert Joe - SI/Volt


HM's - too many to list.

 

[TexasVet]

haha! I don't know where you read "All Ahlusion juices are N-E-Ts," but if you read something similar it was that all Ahlusion's tobaccos are.

I stand corrected, and smarter. Thanks

Memory won't help here. And voting isn't what it's cracked up to be.