The things you wish you had known before your initial e-cig investment?

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before i place an order with NJOY, i would welcome anyone to share their opinion of the penstyles by NJOY vs. PURESMOKER...
also, i just saw ecigarettesales site, where the Jane's Kick Juice is sold in some good flavors. those penstyles are very inexpensive, but regardless of how much i search the forums here, i cant find much anything regarding reviews of their product (the ecigs). has anyone bought them? or do they just order the kick juice from that site??? a mystery....
will wait till tomorrow for replies and then make a decision

NJoy v. Puresmoker; Same e-cig, the rn4072. Puresmoker is half the price of NJoy, but Njoy has a one year warranty and comes in one additional color, burgundy. Do NOT buy Njoy's cartridges.

Jane's Pens are excellent, they're the KR-108, same model as ePuffer, about on a par with the RN4072. Light draw. 4 out of 5 for vapor. The LEDs are kinda dim, though, and they do work better if dripped.

For the same price as Jane or Puresmoker I'd suggest the Joye-302 from LitecigUSA. Or in Njoy's price range I'd suggest the Janty Classic.
 

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Hi Texastumble,

My first e-cig was an Njoy. I got it at the end of June. I had some problems with it at first, so I called and talked to Mark in customer service and he sent me out a new atomizer right away. I also purchased an extra atomizer. Now it is not so easy to just call them, because their business has increased dramatically I'm sure. I just send an email and let them know what I need and they send out what I need with a postage-paid return envelope to send back the old part. I've gone through several atomizers, some of which I've been able to revive with steam cleaning. A couple weeks ago the batteries finally gave out and they replaced them. Njoy is a good quality product.

Then I learned about PureSmoker and ordered the cool-looking black penstyle with the blue light and boy what a difference! The hit and vapor production is excellent. The batteries don't last as long though. They require more frequent recharging and die earlier than the Njoy batteries. But Steve is great for customer service. He will make things right in a timely fashion. As far as shipping is concerned, he is the fastest by far.

So it's a toss-up. Longer battery life or better hit and vapor production.

Oh, when I saw the pink mini from PureSmoker I just had to have it. It was my first experience with a mini and you won't believe the hit and vapor production from this little baby. But it requires more frequent topping off with e-liquid and more frequent battery charges than the penstyle. I don't really mind so much though, because it's just so darn cute - it even has a pink light!

I was buying Kick e-liquid from Jane and she also sells e-cigs, so I decided to try her titanium penstyle. I really like it. It is a high quality product. Hers has the longest lasting battery life as far as recharging goes. I haven't had it that long to have the batteries die yet. The vapor production is also very good, almost as good as PureSmoker - good enough to satisfy me anyway. She is also a very good dealer with integrity and she has free shipping!

All of these are different in their own ways, but I like variety. IMO they are all good products. I feel I've been fortunate.

Just expect them to have problems (hopefully you won't have any) but don't get upset if you do. It's just the nature of the beast. These suppliers have been very good to work with in making things right.

Hope this helps - good luck!

before i place an order with NJOY, i would welcome anyone to share their opinion of the penstyles by NJOY vs. PURESMOKER...
also, i just saw ecigarettesales site, where the Jane's Kick Juice is sold in some good flavors. those penstyles are very inexpensive, but regardless of how much i search the forums here, i cant find much anything regarding reviews of their product (the ecigs). has anyone bought them? or do they just order the kick juice from that site??? a mystery....
will wait till tomorrow for replies and then make a decision
 
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I wish Steve had been in business when I first got my NJoy. Never got a great smoke from them and I've had the batteries and atomizers replaced twice.

Puresmokers "generics" are the same thing but they actually work. That's all I use now (yes, I'm back!) and it's easier to deal with the disposable factor when you pay so little for them.

I'll call NJoy tomorrow for yet another replacement but I think they are going to be my back up e-cig while Steve's remain my primary.
 

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Hey Tex,

As for what I am trying next, probably nothing, haha. I just got my Screwdriver this morning and the thing is GREAT. Very consistent with each draw, for hours on the SAME battery. Smaller carts than I am used to, but I can get used to these. It is smaller than the pen, but heavier. Very nice feel to it.

My Njoy atomizer died Wednesday. I emailed them, but haven't heard back yet. Prob won't till Monday. Even if they're fast with their replacements, I might burn another atomizer while waiting, ya know? Just seems really inconvenient for a heavy smoker to be exchanging every week. Should make a decent back up for a year!

I plan to only order bulk in the future so I don't have to rely on anyone else, plus it'll decrease the costs. With this SD, buy up a bunch of atomizers, carts and liquid I'll be good for months.

Later
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Janet,
yours has been a very informative post. thank you.
but still leaves me confused as to what to invest in, in my first PEN style, now that i know the mini just aint gonna cut it with my heavy usage.
i do like lots of vapor, that is more important than battery life. though of course prefer to have the best of both.
just wondering if it's just worth saving up for the cadillac of the e-cigs, the Janty Kissbox? or is it not worth it? any thoughts.
also, Janet, what are your favorite juice flavors from Jane's Kick Juice?
have you tried Puresmoker e-juices? how do they compare?
the only one i have tried is the Puresmoker cash premium coca cola-it is awesome.
the one thing i like is that puresmoker has 36mg nicotine juices. i notice Jane's Kick Juice only has max of 16mg. wonder why?
also wonder why more folks aint talking about ecigarettesales.com e-cigs, the "Great White" and the "titanium" penstyle? they look like they should be a decent generic penstyle and for a great price and no shipping costs..so what's the deal?
thanks for any further thoughts as i continue to research.

Hi Texastumble,

My first e-cig was an Njoy. I got it at the end of June. I had some problems with it at first, so I called and talked to Mark in customer service and he sent me out a new atomizer right away. I also purchased an extra atomizer. Now it is not so easy to just call them, because their business has increased dramatically I'm sure. I just send an email and let them know what I need and they send out what I need with a postage-paid return envelope to send back the old part. I've gone through several atomizers, some of which I've been able to revive with steam cleaning. A couple weeks ago the batteries finally gave out and they replaced them. Njoy is a good quality product.

Then I learned about PureSmoker and ordered the cool-looking black penstyle with the blue light and boy what a difference! The hit and vapor production is excellent. The batteries don't last as long though. They require more frequent recharging and die earlier than the Njoy batteries. But Steve is great for customer service. He will make things right in a timely fashion. As far as shipping is concerned, he is the fastest by far.

So it's a toss-up. Longer battery life or better hit and vapor production.

Oh, when I saw the pink mini from PureSmoker I just had to have it. It was my first experience with a mini and you won't believe the hit and vapor production from this little baby. But it requires more frequent topping off with e-liquid and more frequent battery charges than the penstyle. I don't really mind so much though, because it's just so darn cute - it even has a pink light!

I was buying Kick e-liquid from Jane and she also sells e-cigs, so I decided to try her titanium penstyle. I really like it. It is a high quality product. Hers has the longest lasting battery life as far as recharging goes. I haven't had it that long to have the batteries die yet. The vapor production is also very good, almost as good as PureSmoker - good enough to satisfy me anyway. She is also a very good dealer with integrity and she has free shipping!

All of these are different in their own ways, but I like variety. IMO they are all good products. I feel I've been fortunate.

Just expect them to have problems (hopefully you won't have any) but don't get upset if you do. It's just the nature of the beast. These suppliers have been very good to work with in making things right.

Hope this helps - good luck!
 

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Texastumble,

I hear ya girlfriend...decisions, decisions. I think I would try PureSmoker first. I like mint/menthol and both Steve's from PureSmoker and Jane's menthol are very good. I couldn't really tell much difference. I buy the liquid from Jane because she has free shipping. I do a lot of mixing with PG, VG and LorAnn's flavorings. I use some high nic 555 or Abandon Mint from Jane to get some nicotine in the mix. One of my favorite recipes is two parts Bubblegum LorAnn's, one part Abandon Mint and 3 parts of a mixture of one part VG to 4 parts PG. I'm trying to keep the nicotine level low, but I do like a little.
 

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ok i know what PG is but what is VG? and where do you get them?
and i am sure i could search the forum to find out more about LoriAnn's food flavoring, but do you get that at grocery store?
yes i have had good luck with the puresmoker mini, just not enough battery charge and doesnt hold enough e-juice, so constant battery exchange, and topping of carts. so i may just try the puresmoker penstyle. but the ecigarettesales.com penstyle is so cheap, and free shipping..argh!


Texastumble,

I hear ya girlfriend...decisions, decisions. I think I would try PureSmoker first. I like mint/menthol and both Steve's from PureSmoker and Jane's menthol are very good. I couldn't really tell much difference. I buy the liquid from Jane because she has free shipping. I do a lot of mixing with PG, VG and LorAnn's flavorings. I use some high nic 555 or Abandon Mint from Jane to get some nicotine in the mix. One of my favorite recipes is two parts Bubblegum LorAnn's, one part Abandon Mint and 3 parts of a mixture of one part VG to 4 parts PG. I'm trying to keep the nicotine level low, but I do like a little.
 

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That's right, it would be cheaper in the longrun to get a titanium from Jane. I highly recommend it. I think you would be very happy with it.

PG is Propylene Glycol and I had Walgreen's order a bottle for me. I think it was about 9 or 10 dollars for a pint. I ordered VG, Vegetable Glycerin, from The Vitamin Shop I think. It was online and I think it was 4+ dollars per 4 oz. bottle. You don't have to have VG. It's pretty much like PG, except the viscosity is a lot thicker. It helps make a lot of vapor, but also has a tendancy to overpower flavors. The brand is Nature's Answer.

In hindsight, I would check with a local drugstore or healthfood store and that way you don't have to pay for shipping and handling. If they don't have it in the store, they will probably order it for you. I get LorAnn's flavorings from my local Acme grocery store. They will order larger bottles if you want. They carry the one dram bottles, especially now, for all the Christmas bakers. There is a lot of info on a thread dedicated to LorAnn's flavorings on this site, but I'm too computer illiterate to know how to post a link here. Just do a search and I'm sure you'll find it.
 
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IMO PureSmoker and Njoy are totally different. Oh Ebenezer, did you order extra atomizers from Trog? Or do you buy them stateside and if so, from what supplier?


Hey Janet,

I haven't ordered atomizers yet, anything yet! haha. Been a long weekend. Im finally sitting down on the computer, so I'll see what I can find today. I would really like to stay in the US, but I haven't noticed much in the way of bulk outside of China...
 
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