The THIRD!! NETty Awards!!!

[Jerms]

I think that's a great plan Clnire.

Some have messaged me asking why I think NT should be disqualified. It's a legitimate question that I'd like to answer, then I'm done with the subject (for reals this time ).

First, I said I would have considered it. The reason I might not have is because it wasn't in the rules that a vendor can't use marketing to get votes, so a drastic move of disqualification would be hard to make. Since it came up this time, I think it would be an important rule to post next time because:

This is a small poll, a couple dozen voters at most, and their are a LOT of great NETs on the market. Because of this, the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd results from each category is a pretty tight race, with winners only needing a few votes.

A vendor with a loyal following can easily dominate a small poll like this. The decision for NT to promote in the way they did will guarantee they will win most categories, while without promotion they may have placed in just one or two categories.

I wrote a paragraph why I think that's unfair to other vendors, voters, and observers and how it takes away from the spirit of this annual awards. I deleted it because to me it's just so obvious. If it's not obvious to someone else, we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[chanelvaps]

It is very obvious to me and I will state what I feel
Neither Andria (TPR) or Wlad (AHL) or Clay (NET) is out here fighting (or sending their fanboys) for votes clamoring to be considered "the best of" they have more important work to do.
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[love coffee]

I think that's a great plan Clnire.

Some have messaged me asking why I think NT should be disqualified. It's a legitimate question that I'd like to answer, then I'm done with the subject (for reals this time ).

First, I said I would have considered it. The reason I might not have is because it wasn't in the rules that a vendor can't use marketing to get votes, so a drastic move of disqualification would be hard to make. Since it came up this time, I think it would be an important rule to post next time because:

This is a small poll, a couple dozen voters at most, and their are a LOT of great NETs on the market. Because of this, the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd results from each category is a pretty tight race, with winners only needing a few votes.

A vendor with a loyal following can easily dominate a small poll like this. The decision for NT to promote in the way they did will guarantee they will win most categories, while without promotion they may have placed in just one or two categories.

I wrote a paragraph why I think that's unfair to other vendors, voters, and observers and how it takes away from the spirit of this annual awards. I deleted it because to me it's just so obvious. If it's not obvious to someone else, we'll have to agree to disagree.

BRAVO, Jerms. My thoughts exactly. I think the marketing to get votes should be a disqualifier, but as you said, it's not in the current rules. I sure hope it's in the next round.

 

[Magaro]

I love NET.com. And I am pretty damn fond of Nicoticket. And I generally like Black Note and EtherVapes. And that's all I can speak about from personal experience at this point. And I couldn't care less who wins any categories. I am, however, thoroughly enjoying reading through people's votes and comments and learning about some interesting juices from vendors I haven't tried yet. It's all a win for me.

 

[clnire]

Again, well said Jerms. I am finding several areas that would be good to have more clarification. When Scarf-Ace started the first awards, there was the not large number of NETs commercially available, and there were really not many (overall) NET vapers. The whole genre has grown so much in the last 2 years, more definition and clarification, stated plain and simple, would be good.

And I must thank everyone again for voting, participating, and being patient with me!

 

[beachbumcm]

Need to adjust my vote if you can...my third vote for best varietal is GeJ's Natural Perique...and to remove my vote for GeJ's latakia for best english/latakia, that was in error.

 

[clnire]

I normally would not change a vote, but since I asked and you clarified, I will gladly change your vote beach.

 

[beachbumcm]

thanks. I added the perique because i was thinking the perique was the latakia, so i was removing the latakia and adding perique where i meant to put it

 

[skilow]

Well I'm voting for nicoticket across the board! Because you tried to eliminate them from the competition, I may have gave them second or third in a specific category. But after trying to disqualifying them, they deserve firsts across the board to "even the score"! (After this year, these awards mean nothing, with all the drama involved and should be discontinued) unless someone comes up with a set of rules that will probably exclude any vendors and only allow dyi. So these awards will become pointless x

 

[beachbumcm]

Well I'm voting for nicoticket across the board! Because you tried to eliminate them from the competition, I may have gave them second or third in a specific category. But after trying to disqualifying them, they deserve firsts across the board to "even the score"! (After this year, these awards mean nothing, with all the drama involved and should be discontinued) unless someone comes up with a set of rules that will probably exclude any vendors and only allow dyi. So these awards will become pointless x

boy that's just a straight shooter with upper management written all over him

 

[y cherry y]

Well I'm voting for nicoticket across the board! Because you tried to eliminate them from the competition, I may have gave them second or third in a specific category. But after trying to disqualifying them, they deserve firsts across the board to "even the score"! (After this year, these awards mean nothing, with all the drama involved and should be discontinued) unless someone comes up with a set of rules that will probably exclude any vendors and only allow dyi. So these awards will become pointless x

If they can't use their mailing list to win every eliquid award there is, they're gonna do some serious pouting. So there!

 

[David Wolf]

Yes, cold maceration I believe. TA is also used as an additive (which is actually fairly common with NET vendors).

I'm not convinced of that looking at their website, for some flavors i see TA, others aren't clear.

 

[David Wolf]

Bump for the great list of NETs, and the drama too lol. I do wish that some of the "NET" vendors clearly stated what whether there products contained natural tobacco extracts (cold or heat extraction), vs. Tobacco Absolute, vs. whatever else is out there, AND if their are other flavorings in it (natural or artificial). That being said, if it taste good and has a real cigarette or cigar flavor, I'm good with it.

 

[Mtek]

I'm just voting for the three best overall.

1. TPR - M type
2. HHV - Shadow
3. Black Note - Cadenza

 

[MoonSparkle]

Best NET Overall
1. MOV - Pendragon
2. NET - Starry Night
3. MOV - Southern Gentleman

Best Sweeter NET
1. MOV - Full Virginia Flake
2.
3.

Best Drier NET
1. MOV - Southern Gentleman
2.
3.

Best Single Varietal
1. MOV Full Virginia Flake
2.
3.

Best Fruit Tobacco
1. MOV - Pendragon
2. NET - Black Cherry
3. NET - Starry Night

Best Flavored Tobacco
1. MOV - Sunday Morning (coffee and creme flavored)
2. NET - Pumpkin Pie Tobacco
3.

Best Cigar
1. NET - Starry Night
2. MOV - Apache
3.

Best Pipe
1. MOV - Apache
2. MOV - Southern Gentlemen
3. NET - Black Cherry

Best Cigarette
1. NET - Big Spirit
2. NET - Organic Spirit
3.

Best English/Latakia Blend
1. MOV - Apache
2. NET - Bombay
3.

Best NET RY4
1. MOV - Full Virgina Flake
2.
3.

Best Synthetic/non-NET tobacco
1. NiteLite Vapor - Gold
2. MOV - Blue Ridge
3. Good Life Vapor - Deadly Sin

NEW CATEGORY!!
Favorite NET Vendor
1. MOV
2. NET
3.

 

[Matthee]

Best NET Overall
1. Tarks Select Reserve Matador
2. Witchers Brew Blackbird
3. HHV Huntsman

Best Sweeter NET
1. NT The Virus
2.
3.

Best Drier NET
1. HHV Huntsmanm
2.
3.

Best Single Varietal
1.
2.
3.

Best Fruit Tobacco
1. Rocket Sheep Enterprise
2.
3.

Best Flavored Tobacco
1. GeJ NET Menthol
2.
3.

Best Cigar
1. Tarks Select Reserve Matador
2.
3.

Best Pipe
1. GeJ Organic Tobacco
2.
3.

Best Cigarette
1.
2.
3.

Best English/Latakia Blend
1.
2.
3.

Best Turkish/Oriental Blend
1.
2.
3.

Best NET RY4
1. NT The Virus
2.
3.

Best Synthetic/non-NET tobacco
1.
2.
3.

NEW CATEGORY!!
Favorite NET Vendor
1. Tarks Select Reserve (ModnWorld)
2. Nicoticket
3.

 

[gotalotgoingon]

I think that's a great plan Clnire.

Some have messaged me asking why I think NT should be disqualified. It's a legitimate question that I'd like to answer, then I'm done with the subject (for reals this time ).

First, I said I would have considered it. The reason I might not have is because it wasn't in the rules that a vendor can't use marketing to get votes, so a drastic move of disqualification would be hard to make. Since it came up this time, I think it would be an important rule to post next time because:

This is a small poll, a couple dozen voters at most, and their are a LOT of great NETs on the market. Because of this, the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd results from each category is a pretty tight race, with winners only needing a few votes.

A vendor with a loyal following can easily dominate a small poll like this. The decision for NT to promote in the way they did will guarantee they will win most categories, while without promotion they may have placed in just one or two categories.

I wrote a paragraph why I think that's unfair to other vendors, voters, and observers and how it takes away from the spirit of this annual awards. I deleted it because to me it's just so obvious. If it's not obvious to someone else, we'll have to agree to disagree.

If marketing can not be used, how is it that the person that started this poll can go to some of the NET vendors forums and post that the voting is taking place? Not trying to pick a fight here, just a legit question.

 

[Influence]

Nothing comparable between the two. Give the information to ECF members to vote for the NETty Awards is not the same that sending personal mass email in America and worldwide to get votes for one vendor, who will be "obviously honored if you vote for him" and who put a link as an example of his personal vote, were all his choices in all categories/type of NETs are for his own company.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

I think that's a great plan Clnire.

Some have messaged me asking why I think NT should be disqualified. It's a legitimate question that I'd like to answer, then I'm done with the subject (for reals this time ).

First, I said I would have considered it. The reason I might not have is because it wasn't in the rules that a vendor can't use marketing to get votes, so a drastic move of disqualification would be hard to make. Since it came up this time, I think it would be an important rule to post next time because:

This is a small poll, a couple dozen voters at most, and their are a LOT of great NETs on the market. Because of this, the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd results from each category is a pretty tight race, with winners only needing a few votes.

A vendor with a loyal following can easily dominate a small poll like this. The decision for NT to promote in the way they did will guarantee they will win most categories, while without promotion they may have placed in just one or two categories.

I wrote a paragraph why I think that's unfair to other vendors, voters, and observers and how it takes away from the spirit of this annual awards. I deleted it because to me it's just so obvious. If it's not obvious to someone else, we'll have to agree to disagree.

I wish there was a dislike button.

 

[gotalotgoingon]

Nothing comparable between the two. Give the information to ECF members to vote for the NETty Awards is not the same that sending personal mass email in America and worldwide to get votes for one vendor, who will be "obviously honored if you vote for him" and who put a link as an example of his personal vote, were all his choices in all categories/type of NETs are for his own company.

Well given that the majority of those that received that mass email are members of the ECF, I see that being their way to pass the information to them. I highly doubt that a nonmember that received the email, signed up for ECF just to vote and by chance if they did, well I will have to personally thank Nicoticket for bringing more members here. There was not a post in the Nicoticket vendor forums about this awards voting like some of the other forum vendors got.

I am not pointing fingers here at anybody. I know that the person who start this voting had good intentions but it has become clear through past awards contest that it never winds up like certain people want it to. It results in bad blood, name calling, people leaving the forums, etc and I don't think that's why any of us are here. I really would like to see these awards stopped to be honest. It does nothing but fracture the community. I prefer to vote with my dollars.