The Thread for Automatics

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Johnnie Price

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Just what the title says, this is the thread for your favorite automatic setups. What are they and why?

Mine would be the Echo. One cartomizer and battery can easily last me 10 hours. No cases or bottles to cart around and nothing to fill up throughout the day. It's as hassle-free as vaping can be, for me.
 

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When I use automatics, I like the Volt X2. I have Echos, too...and they are okay, but I didn't have good luck with the Echo cartomizers. Do better with regular cartos with a cone. I just use a needle bottle to top off my cartos if needed. Have had good luck with the Elite cartomizers from Cigeasy...hold more and last longer. Battery can last all day (1300 mAh ones anyway) and all I need extra is the bottle of juice with the needle on top. Easy enough.
 

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I use an automatic because I work with my hands and don't want to take the time to drip during the day. Using a Boge Leo (800 mah) with dual coil low resistance cartos. Run all workday on one battery and one carto without refilling. After a handful of cigalike batteries and prefilled cartos this was a big upgrade and it's working for me.
 

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I have to use automatics (trying to push a button at the same time turns it into a juggling act).

Considering the various dangers of manuals, I don't think I'd use them if I could.

Battery life has been great. I fill cartos in advance and change them instead of refilling during the day, so that might be a factor.

Over 80% of what I need is the 'smoking experience,' which means being able to put it in my mouth and draw whenever I wish while my hands are busy.
 

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I really like my SD Keyring, and I'm considering getting a Maxi.

Lost my SD Keyring last night though. Still hasn't turned up.

Considering the various dangers of manuals, I don't think I'd use them if I could.

Which dangers? Just curious. Pretty certain any problem a manual can run across, so can an auto.
 

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Which dangers? Just curious.

One is so common, it's got a nickname: hot pocket! Button gets accidentally pushed while in a pocket or it jams down and the user doesn't notice. In either case, it keeps heating. Some manuals have circuits to cut it off after a certain number of seconds, but not all do, and the circuits aren't foolproof.

Most of the batteries which explode during recharging are manuals. I don't know if it's a case of less control circuitry or a tendency for buttons to get pressed down when put into some chargers, but 11 out of the 12 exploding batteries I've read about were manuals.

Steam explosion. It's been known to happen that a bubble of steam gets trapped on the coil by a glob of juice. When it finally breaks free, it shoots the superheated juice out the mouthpiece. A year or so ago, someone on this forum posted a YouTube video of when it happened to them. The difference is that with automatics, the worst it can do is put a blister on the back of your throat. In the posted video, because it was a manual, they had pushed the button before putting the pv in their mouth, and the juice hit them in the face. It's only a matter of time before someone gets hit in the eye. I've heard of six other such incidents in the last two years.

There are other dangers, but you get the idea.

They're always isolated incidents, and when you consider the number of vapers and the amount of hours spent vaping, they're really rare, but they do happen, and they happen to manuals rather than automatics.

I also live under a cloud -- if anything can break in a spectacular way, it'll happen to me (the very first new car I bought, I was less than three miles from the dealership when the bell housing broke; a new motor for my table saw came apart, flinging a plate against the underside of the table hard enough to crack it (which is when I learned about warranties not covering incidental damage); a new car battery it exploded, spraying the inside of the engine compartment with acid; my first VHS VCR caught fire for no apparent reason; etc. etc. etc.).

The only danger I've heard about automatics is that some of the cheap, early ones used a microphone instead of an air pressure switch, and they could turn on while in a pocket, but that's been corrected so long ago that I doubt that any of those batteries are still around.
 

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Button gets accidentally pushed while in a pocket or it jams down and the user doesn't notice. In either case, it keeps heating.
That's why I like my eGo's, I turn them off before I drop them into a pocket. Dunno what other batteries do that, but it's a feature that should be standard with everything that has a button

Most of the batteries which explode during recharging are manuals. I don't know if it's a case of less control circuitry or a tendency for buttons to get pressed down when put into some chargers, but 11 out of the 12 exploding batteries I've read about were manuals.
Well, manuals are pretty much the dominant method, so it isn't surprising that there's more incidents involving manuals than automatics
It's like malware for Windows and Mac. There's more viruses for Windows mostly because there's more Windows machines running

Steam explosion. It's been known to happen that a bubble of steam gets trapped on the coil by a glob of juice. When it finally breaks free, it shoots the superheated juice out the mouthpiece. A year or so ago, someone on this forum posted a YouTube video of when it happened to them.
I'm sorry, but if someone gets blasted in the face by overheated juice, that's kind of their own fault
 
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I started with an auto battery cigalike and did pretty good with them more or less.. I switched to a manual mostly because of the sealed battery (safety first, right?) I always had a fear of liquid getting into that open battery and burning up in my hands. My second reason for switching to a manual, the variety.. There are so many awesome looking batteries out there and all of them are manuals :)
 
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