Lucky you, wish I had a brass t-tip. Don't know why, would spend alot of time polishing it, but still want one.
The Vape Mate "Auto" Feed?
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Following the useful directions from others I tried to replicate the Vapemate AFS phenomenon. I installed a tube into a 6 ml bottle yesterday and tried it with the Vapemate and an LR atomizer from Eastmall. It was an older one that had been sitting around. I filled the bottle up enough so that when I dripped into the top of the tube I could eliminate as much air as possible from the equation. This worked brilliantly. From the get go it sent a solid line of juice across. This worked for about half an hour of vape time, until some air got in the line. However, I was able to replicate it a second time, before I disassembled the setup.
I've been able to get it to intermittently work as well. The problem is that I can't find tubing that will fit absolutely airtight into my TW bottle's tip.
Dave; when you send out the bottles, could you possibly send a few inches of the right diameter tubing?
I have yet to get it working the way it did that day I went through 10ml without touching the bottle. It has to be the air flow on the atomizer causing enough negative pressure on the juice passage to pull juice from the bottle automatically. Problem I see is to get that kind of pressure on a more free flowing atomizer would be so much that you would pull juice straight into your mouth. That seems to be the main problem with any attempt at "Auto" feeding an atomizer. In my experienced honest opinion anyway.....lol...
I think there are several things at play- airflow/vacuum pressure might be part of it- the viscosity of your juice probably has something to do with it as well, the angle of the device, maybe temperature too- It's capillary action at its finest...
I had problems with non-stop auto feed - I didn't have to vape, it just kept flowing- I had a bit of a mess the other day, so I ended up putting a small hole in the tube to let air in- I'd rather give a squeeze periodically than have juice all over my keyboard.....
FWIW, I was using the standard bottle, aquarium tubing with the bottom cut at 45 deg and the top cut square and jammed into the drip top of the bottle..
I have yet to experience the completed/constant auto feed. My tubing seems to always have a pocket of air. Good to know if it happens that a pin ..... will rectify the situation! Thanks fellas.
I've been messing around, trying to figure out how to get the VM to completely auto-feed and I finally succeeded today, temporarily. I went through about 2ml of juice before I had to squeeze the bottle again. Here's how:
I had to make sure that there are no air pockets in the VM. After watching Tina's video, I realized that I had to remove the tube from the bottle. I took a 5ml bottle (provided by David) and completely filled it up with juice, and I mean all the way to the top. When I inserted the tip back into the bottle, naturally some juice squirted out but there was absolutely no air in the bottle. To ensure that everything is air free, I primed the VM. I turned it upside down (no bottle attached) and dripped the same juice from a different bottle until the VM canal was completely full, I think it took 11 drops. Then I screwed in the completely full 5m bottle and started vaping.
I really had to concentrate and make sure that I never set the unit in a vertical position whether while vaping or resting. I would take 4-6 drags and lay the unit down in a horizontal position while not in use. This auto-feeding lasted for over 5 hrs and about 2 mls of juice. It got interrupted when at one moment I just forgot about it, turned the bottom of my PV too low allowing air to get inside the VM channel.
I'm not sure that this is something I would want to do often, it takes a lot of messy prep work and requires constant concentration while using it especially when more than 10-20% of liquid is used up from the bottle. I just wanted to share my experience with you in case you are interested in giving it a shot. Also, I'm sure I would have experienced different results with a different atty having a tighter or a looser draw...
I had to make sure that there are no air pockets in the VM. After watching Tina's video, I realized that I had to remove the tube from the bottle. I took a 5ml bottle (provided by David) and completely filled it up with juice, and I mean all the way to the top. When I inserted the tip back into the bottle, naturally some juice squirted out but there was absolutely no air in the bottle. To ensure that everything is air free, I primed the VM. I turned it upside down (no bottle attached) and dripped the same juice from a different bottle until the VM canal was completely full, I think it took 11 drops. Then I screwed in the completely full 5m bottle and started vaping.
I really had to concentrate and make sure that I never set the unit in a vertical position whether while vaping or resting. I would take 4-6 drags and lay the unit down in a horizontal position while not in use. This auto-feeding lasted for over 5 hrs and about 2 mls of juice. It got interrupted when at one moment I just forgot about it, turned the bottom of my PV too low allowing air to get inside the VM channel.
I'm not sure that this is something I would want to do often, it takes a lot of messy prep work and requires constant concentration while using it especially when more than 10-20% of liquid is used up from the bottle. I just wanted to share my experience with you in case you are interested in giving it a shot. Also, I'm sure I would have experienced different results with a different atty having a tighter or a looser draw...
That's basically it- unless you let the bottom of the feed tube out of the juice, it will continue to feed. And now that you mention it, I was filling my bottle all the way up to the top- but didn't find it really messy... once you get all the bubles out of the capliary tube ( a good firm squeeze will prime it), it's going to start flowing weather the bottle is filled or not though....
more important, is that while it works for some who constantly vape at a regular pace all day long, if you tend to vape heavily for a few minutes then set it down for a while,it just keeps flowing- not what you want. The hole in the tube pretty much guarantees air in the tube will limit any additional juice from flowing....
Jimho, I see what you are saying but, in my experience, every time I have to squeeze the bottle, air gets sucked back in through the hole at the atty end of the VM and the auto feeding gets interrupted... I just don't understand the physics behind the constant flow which you are experiencing...
I see what you're saying- it would follow that as you release the bottle it needs to refill the space from the juice you removed with air.
.. Maybe this has something to do with it- I mentioned somewhere feeding while vaping-
most people stop, run a few drops, and then vape some more-
I pump while drawing so I can taste when there's enough juice -just something I got used to from months of bottom feeders...
To do that with the VM, you have to make sure it's at the right angle so the end of the feed tube is in juice- perhaps it follows that when you release the bottle, the air bubbles through the capliary tube and I end up not breaking the vacuum.
That's interesting. I've never attempted to squeeze the bottle while vaping. I'll try and see what happens... Thanks for explaining.
Not to disrupt the thread, just got the Vape Mate. OMG! It is fantastic, and so very tiny, I never expected that. Thanks for the info on tubing and use. I love it.
Just got mine today too,this thing rocks! Think I can stop fretting over that tank thing now,this thing is the *$#
Just got mine today too,this thing rocks! Think I can stop fretting over that tank thing now,this thing is the *$#
Good to hear! Is that your bike in the picture?
Yes,it was an '04 Vengeance Raider.I also had an '03 Raider in red.They were the @&$^ too ! Sold the green one earlier this year to cover bills when I went through chemo/radiation therapy.
Still have my'07 Ultra-Classic and am cancer free and tobacco free so life is good!
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