The VapeMate Juice Feeder by SuperT!
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always take the vapemate or bottle off when not using...don't ask me how i know...lol..cleaned a mess when i got up....
This is what I'm worried about. I was trying to figure out if I leave this thing laying on my desk while I"m off fixing something in another part of the building, how bad is it going to leak. I don't see how it can't leak at least some. Having to remove the bottle all the time would be defeating the purpose of making my life easier.
That said, this newbie decided to try dripping in case I do decide to get this. I'm using a cartridge with all the innards removed so it's just an empty tube. I'm not sure about this yet either, but then it's only been an hour or so.
The VapeMate will NOT leak if you use it as intended. Do not do the bottle modification of adding the tube and you will not experience any leakage. I used mine this way for 2 days and never once had a problem. I haven't experienced the problem of leaking at any point and time even with the tube in the bottle.
When dripping, you need to be sure to vape the drops/ e-liquid you have put into your atomizer and not drip more until needed. As with all new products, there is a learning curve. Same for the fact that not all products are made for everyone.
Give it some time and thought and read more reviews as they come out and see what others experience.
I do not store my pv in an upright position at all times. Matter of fact 90 percent of the time it is laying down on my desk, the kitchen counter or in the side pocket of my purse-never have had a spill.
Just because I have typed the words I've probably jinxed myself. If I wake up in the morning and find e-liquid on my desk, it's all your fault LM1-LOL
Oh noooes!! Let me just wave my magic passthrough wand over my keyboard and it will remove that jinx
Thanks very much for your answer. I think my fidgit habits would help getting it sideways when necessary, so I am not likely to want the tube addition.
I have been mostly a cartomizer user so far, and I"m not immediately won over by dripping. Seems too continuously labor intensive to me and I'm just about guaranteed less than great hits more often to find out when it needs to be refilled. So far, I've been filling a load of cartomizers every weekend and be set for the week. However I have melted few cartos now so I was looking for other ideas. A post on filler materials got me wondering too. I'm still very new to all this, only a few months.
Anyway, I started looking for auto feed mods from a bottle that would work with the batteries I have, but most all are systems that would reuse almost nothing of what I already have except atomizers. I was left wondering why can't I use my 510 and ego batteries too? There must be a way to do this. Then I found the VM through google. So far it's the closest thing I've come across that uses most of the equipment I currently have.
So, I dunno yet. Are you finding that you are using more juice with the VM than other methods of vaping?
I'll take a stab at this;
the VM will work with an atty that you like to use on the eGo.
If you want to get away from cartos then you must learn how to drip...
Using a bottom fed mod requires understanding how much juice to use, and how a particular atty responds to more or less juice.
Same with the VM; just a different system in that it top feeds, which is more close to actual dripping.
Actually manual dripping is the MOST precise way of getting the optimal drip because you control everything. And the taste is optimal. That's why you can't beat it.
Dripping requires an understanding of the batt/ atty resistance thing to get the vape right (LR vs Reg atty).
It may take a while to learn these things, at the same time you learn to use the VM. Why not? If you are serious about vaping, you'll probably want to anyway (unless you just stay with cartos).
Find out what batt/atty other VM users are using and try it
With the eGo, and a 510 atty from 1.5 to 2.2 Ohm (optimal range), the VM works just fine.
If you have trouble gauging the juice amount with the VM, just take it off and do manual dripping just to compare what amount is best. You can also practice with the VM off the atty, and watch how much liquid comes out... i think Dave send an instructional along those lines using water (?).
In short, go ahead and get the VM because the natural learning curve will take you to the point of wanting to save yourself the muss and fuss of manual dripping.
In my opinion i like the VM a little more than my bottom feeders: top feed tastes better; imo it seems attys were made for top feeding.
I get good vapes from my bottom feeders but it's not the same.
the VM will work with an atty that you like to use on the eGo.
If you want to get away from cartos then you must learn how to drip...
Using a bottom fed mod requires understanding how much juice to use, and how a particular atty responds to more or less juice.
Same with the VM; just a different system in that it top feeds, which is more close to actual dripping.
Actually manual dripping is the MOST precise way of getting the optimal drip because you control everything. And the taste is optimal. That's why you can't beat it.
Dripping requires an understanding of the batt/ atty resistance thing to get the vape right (LR vs Reg atty).
It may take a while to learn these things, at the same time you learn to use the VM. Why not? If you are serious about vaping, you'll probably want to anyway (unless you just stay with cartos).
Find out what batt/atty other VM users are using and try it
With the eGo, and a 510 atty from 1.5 to 2.2 Ohm (optimal range), the VM works just fine.
If you have trouble gauging the juice amount with the VM, just take it off and do manual dripping just to compare what amount is best. You can also practice with the VM off the atty, and watch how much liquid comes out... i think Dave send an instructional along those lines using water (?).
In short, go ahead and get the VM because the natural learning curve will take you to the point of wanting to save yourself the muss and fuss of manual dripping.
In my opinion i like the VM a little more than my bottom feeders: top feed tastes better; imo it seems attys were made for top feeding.
I get good vapes from my bottom feeders but it's not the same.
Oh noooes!! Let me just wave my magic passthrough wand over my keyboard and it will remove that jinx
Thanks very much for your answer. I think my fidgit habits would help getting it sideways when necessary, so I am not likely to want the tube addition.
I have been mostly a cartomizer user so far, and I"m not immediately won over by dripping. Seems too continuously labor intensive to me and I'm just about guaranteed less than great hits more often to find out when it needs to be refilled. So far, I've been filling a load of cartomizers every weekend and be set for the week. However I have melted few cartos now so I was looking for other ideas. A post on filler materials got me wondering too. I'm still very new to all this, only a few months.
Anyway, I started looking for auto feed mods from a bottle that would work with the batteries I have, but most all are systems that would reuse almost nothing of what I already have except atomizers. I was left wondering why can't I use my 510 and ego batteries too? There must be a way to do this. Then I found the VM through google. So far it's the closest thing I've come across that uses most of the equipment I currently have.
So, I dunno yet. Are you finding that you are using more juice with the VM than other methods of vaping?
Just received my two Vape-Mates today. My initial impression is excellent! I am using a tube in the bottle so we'll see if leakage is a factor for me. So far it is not. I've been looking for a variable voltage juice feeder and this device, hooked up to my Fistpack, may be the ticket. I'll post pictures and maybe a video in a few days. Thanks David.
I got mine a couple of days ago, and i hope I will learn how to use it!
So far, I am either flooding the atty, causing leaks; or I am not getting very good vapor. I haven't tried the tube mod, but i might if it will provide the proper amount of juice.
So far, I am either flooding the atty, causing leaks; or I am not getting very good vapor. I haven't tried the tube mod, but i might if it will provide the proper amount of juice.
the vm does not leak.....i was trying different bottles....and i had the tube modded bottle on ....and i still prefer the tubed bottle...and it hasn't happened since....so i am guessing ...user error.....i fiddled with it....(i love to fiddle)..lol....good to go now....this is one piece of equipment everyone should have.....and it works differently for everyone.....thats the beauty of it...fiddle around til you find the bottles you like the best tubed or not.....and it's easy....as i recall it wasn't intended for tubed bottles...but it's what i like....
I just received my black one today and I'm a little concerned about the ability to see the juice when squeezing the bottle. Because the anodized process anodized the inside of the VM it is difficult to see the juice in the sight window. I have a silver VM and can see it fine but not with the black one. Anyone else having this same issue with their black VM?
It's optimal until you hit the level where it needs to be refilled. 'Cause I sure am not going to be able to keep track of taking X amounts of hits after I've dripped Y drops in there. I was using up to four drops last night. They lasted long enough for me to forgot how long I'd been hitting on them. So in order to not flood the thing, I ended up waiting for it to taste off before adding more.
Oh, I am very serious! I have gone from 2 packs a day for most of the past 35 years to 1/2 as of a couple days ago and I am COMFORTABLE about it! Even if I don't cut back one analog more, I have to stay with this one way or another.
As to what other VM users are using, they will mostly have 510 fittings at least for now, since there's not a lot of other options, right?
I have regular attys from cignot for whatever resistance that's worth. I have several meters, even more at work (incl a locker full of ancient workbench sized LED Flukes that all still work) but I don't have one in my nightstand, at least not at the moment, so I'm not sure what the base resistance is.
But let me try to understand this. Are you saying: that the resistance will change with the juice in the atty? That makes sense. That that the "sweet spot" is between 1.5 to 2.2. Ok, until I get a meter handy, I'll take your word for it. So how do I hook up a meter to watch it while I'm vaping? (jk!) (or am I?)
I think watching a meter might be more interesting at least for a few minutes, hehehe.
Thanks so much for your thoughtful response!
the vm does not leak.....i was trying different bottles....and i had the tube modded bottle on ....and i still prefer the tubed bottle...and it hasn't happened since....so i am guessing ...user error.....i fiddled with it....(i love to fiddle)..lol....good to go now....this is one piece of equipment everyone should have.....and it works differently for everyone.....thats the beauty of it...fiddle around til you find the bottles you like the best tubed or not.....and it's easy....as i recall it wasn't intended for tubed bottles...but it's what i like....
Thanks for clarifying that. Cleaning up spills would be problematic with the nearest water and paper towel source being a football field's distance down the building.
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Yes, its been noted on this thread before.... the darker the color VM the harder it is to see the juice in the window.
You surely cant miss that little puff of vapor that comes up when that juice hits your bridge though ! heheh
- when the taste starts to get burnt or less vape, that's about the best you can hope to gauge when it's time to redrip.
-all VM are 510 for now... I meant, what resistance 510 atty and different brands are others using and getting good results ...
best way to learn to catch fish is to go the bank or shore where they are catching and see exactly what gear and techniques...
- just know that a "3.7v" (true 3.7 or not, most are called "3.7v") will be best with an atty (of any style) in resistance range of 1.5 to 2.2 Ohms. I wasn't talking about juice differences or while vaping. that is something to determine as well through trial and error.
different brands of 510 even with the same resistance may vape a little different, but in that resistance range you will be in the right ball park. Best to try a few ...and when you get one that works...
-all VM are 510 for now... I meant, what resistance 510 atty and different brands are others using and getting good results ...
best way to learn to catch fish is to go the bank or shore where they are catching and see exactly what gear and techniques...
- just know that a "3.7v" (true 3.7 or not, most are called "3.7v") will be best with an atty (of any style) in resistance range of 1.5 to 2.2 Ohms. I wasn't talking about juice differences or while vaping. that is something to determine as well through trial and error.
different brands of 510 even with the same resistance may vape a little different, but in that resistance range you will be in the right ball park. Best to try a few ...and when you get one that works...
I have a couple different devices and popped it on the 510, a 901 and a 510 and 808 cartomizer. I am assuming (ouch) that since the e-liquid drips through the outer most hole, that one could drip in a cartomizer. It would be much harder to know when the carto had enough of a fill though, seeing as you are wetting filler and not feeding directly to the coil.
So the VM actually does give us some options when it comes to pv configurations!
So the VM actually does give us some options when it comes to pv configurations!
That's exactly what I do with mine - I fill the sight glass, shoot it in, and repeat - each fill appears to yield 2 drops, and I use 4 on a LR 510 atty (gotta keep those wet!).
Two puffs from the T-Tip, and it's good to go!
woo-hoo! I got my VM today ! ... plugged it in and it works perfectly!
The best part is that I can vape at 6V again. I had kinda given up on 6V, because of the constant dripping required on a regular 510. With the VapeMate, the drip is right there! As soon as I detect the dryness, tilt, squeeze the bottle, and just like that, I'm back !
I also like the fact that there's no more juice mouth ! With drip tips, every once in awhile I get a shot of juice. Most vapers get used to it, but it still grosses me out. I've been VapeMating for 7 hours and no juice mouth yet! woo-hoo!
I got the VM for driving, but now I want to use it all day long... !
Thank you David !
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The best part is that I can vape at 6V again. I had kinda given up on 6V, because of the constant dripping required on a regular 510. With the VapeMate, the drip is right there! As soon as I detect the dryness, tilt, squeeze the bottle, and just like that, I'm back !
I also like the fact that there's no more juice mouth ! With drip tips, every once in awhile I get a shot of juice. Most vapers get used to it, but it still grosses me out. I've been VapeMating for 7 hours and no juice mouth yet! woo-hoo!
I got the VM for driving, but now I want to use it all day long... !
Thank you David !
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