The wisdom of inhaling something that burns my skin and makes the roof of my mouth raw?

[JME]

Okay, I have to question this because it is concerning me now. I won't mention what liquid this is because I am sure many of you probably know which one it is anyway and I don't want to talk down on a specific companies product for fear of wrath from the people who love it. This is more a general question about certain types of liquids.

Anyway, I have a little addiction at the moment to a certain companies liquid. It is awesome, above all awesomeness of any other liquid I've ever vaped and I can't even vape other liquids anymore because they taste like junk in comparison. I know, I've tried approximately 50 different liquids now and just can't seem to get the same satisfaction. And, this is with only 6 mg of nicotine.. when I even use nicotine. It's a taste/smell/sensory/habit "addiction", not really as much of a nic addiction anymore.

However, I have to question the wisdom of vaping into my lungs a product that.. if I get it on my skin.. burns BURNS BURNS! because of the certain oil present in the product. It doesnt' just burn me, either. It's not an allergy. The nicotine free version has also burnt my hubby's and my mom's skin, too.

My question is, if it does that to skin, what is it doing to my lungs?

I know, I know, I used to smoke cigarettes that if you got the smoke in your eyes burnt your eyes, WAS burning my lungs, and was clearly a bad thing to do.

However, I just don't know anymore. Is this safe?? Is the oil sticking in the atomizers and not going into my lungs.. it does seem to gunk up atomizers rather rapidly.. or am I inhaling oil? Is inhaling tiny bits of oil, safe? Maybe short term, what about long? Can your lungs absorb it?

I seem to cough up a lot of clear/mucous. Nothing like when I was smoking, but it's still a little concerning to me considering the whole.. if you get it on your skin it burns you.. thing. I've also noticed that the roof of my mouth tastes like the flavor all the time and the roof of my mouth is always kind of raw.. That lends to the idea that I might be, in fact, inhaling little bits of the oil flavoring.

So.. in my worst case scenario.. what if I am inhaling oil and it is slowly gumming up my alveoli or it is burning my lungs.. and the inside of my lungs is looking a lot like the roof of my mouth.. or something?

Or, is it possible I'm just hacking up whatever trace oils I am inhaling, or that it is sticking to my mouth.. or is being absorbed by my lungs? Is the latter even possible?

Does anyone else know anything about this? Any thoughts? Any thoughts about the implications of.. if in fact the oil-based flavored liquid products are safe to inhale? Would certain ones be worse, re: one that can burn your skin?

Are all of the flavors for liquids oil-based, or are some more a liquid flavoring that's not any oil at all?

Cigarette free for 8 months now!

 

[samsmom]

Duplicate - please delete

 

[samsmom]

I don't know what you are vaping, but have an idea there is some type of oil extract/flavoring in it like cinnamon or peppermint?

If you read the DIY section here on ECF you will see where it is not ususally recommended to use oil-based flavorings, only water-based, but of course some companies probably do.

I wouldn't vape anything that burnt my skin or my mouth!!

I would contact the vendor and inquire about the exact ingredients in your juice!

 

[JME]

It is cinnamon oil. It doesn't immediately burn you. But, if it sits on your skin for more than a few seconds it starts to and leaves a red mark. I'm posting because of the roof of my mouth being raw and tasting like cinnamon and it woke me up t o questioning it. I don't/didn't want this to be unsafe because I enjoy it so much..

 

[earthpig]

Avoid cinnamon.
Doesn't matter if you like it or not. It is one of those flavorings that has a high % of allergic reaction in the population.
Some also react to PG, but you didn't mention the base. That equates to about 3% of vapers. Cinnamon is from my understanding much higher in %.

Why push your luck. It's not the only game (flavor) in town.

 

[keyzygirl]

I vape cinnamon all day,have for 6 months or more,it doesnt bother my mouth or my skin when it gets on me.I think you may have a slight allergy to it.

 

[JME]

So my whole family is allergic to cinnamon oil?? Interesting theory. I don't have any sort of symptoms when I eat cinnamon candies, or cinnamon oil flavored hard tack, but I also don't suck on hard tack for hours and hours and hours the same way I vape it.

I would think long-term exposure to something causing symptoms would be more a toxic thing than an allergic reaction.

Of course, I've never put hard tack candy on my skin.

Do other people NOT get burnt by cinnamon oil directly on the skin? You don't get a burning and red welt from it the way I/my family does?

It's actually possible that it's an allergy if ya'all don't have that happen.

I can chew on cinnamon sticks and I can eat fireballs and hardtack without feeling anything but for whatever reason if I get that oil on my skin it burns me. The allergy explanation would be weird and unexpected, but I suppose possible.

If I'm allergic vs. this is normal do I then stop vaping this? I spose chronic exposure to an allergen is a bad idea? Or maybe a good one? They say you can beat an allergy with exposure.

I'm still worried about the oil-based thing a bit.

Eh, I don't know.

 

[JME]

Why push the game.. cause I love cinnamon. It's my favorite flavor.. I love cinnamon. I eat cinnamon multigrain toast for breakfast most days and I really only adore cinnamon candy. I think being allergic to it, would be, highly ironic But, it'd figure!

 

[hairball]

I vape the heck out of atomic cinnacide and cinna-bomb. It doesn't bother me at all.

 

[hairball]

Only suggestion I could give you is to rotate your juice with another non-cinnamon juice and see if that helps. I also vape the 2 I mentioned to clean my palate if I go into "flavor loss" mode.

 

[StormFinch]

You might also try another brand of e-juice, something that doesn't have quite as much cinnamon in it. Maybe it's just a high concentration. Personally I can handle pure cinnamon oil without burning or redness, but vaping high concentrations or a lot of it causes me to feel congested.

 

[JME]

No one has any theories or opinions on oil-based vs. water-based juice? Basically, it's me thinking I've stumbled on some huge issue and really I've just stumbled on an allergy/sensitivity. Okay, I'll say it. It's AC. The roof of my mouth is raw and it burns my skin/families skin. Should I try another cinnamon or should I just try something else, then? Any suggestions?

 

[Stifle]

No one has any theories or opinions on oil-based vs. water-based juice? Basically, it's me thinking I've stumbled on some huge issue and really I've just stumbled on an allergy/sensitivity. Okay, I'll say it. It's AC. The roof of my mouth is raw and it burns my skin/families skin. Should I try another cinnamon or should I just try something else, then? Any suggestions?

Yes, oil based flavorings are in some instances "worse" than water based flavorings. However, this is typically in relation to the effect they have on your atomizers as the oil tends to gunk up your attys much faster.

Cinnamon is certainly an irritant and could have negative effects on your skin/mouth. While I've never vaped AC, i've heard it's over the top with hot spicy cinnamon flavor. This would seem like it is more likely the issue. A more mild cinnamon flavor might be your answer or skipping the stuff entirely.

I personally just tried gotvapes.com big red and velvet vapors Cinnamint. Both were very nice cinnamon flavors that you might consider.

 

[earthpig]

It is what it is.
If it is bothersome, why mess with your lungs? Thats why you quit smoking. To save em.
Don't play games with it.....avoid it. The skin you can see, the mouth you can see. Wanna chance it in the lungs that you cannot see? The lungs give up, you drop to the floor...plain and simple.
Again, don't play games with it. Flavorings are the most dangerous aspect of e-juices to begin with.
What are you doing?

 

[Katya]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...r-health-question-concerning-some-juices.html

It's been discussed before.

 

[DaveP]

The thing that bothers me, JME, is that you said your liquid contains cinnamon OIL. Any oil is a bad thing to inhale into your lungs. Oil is the reason that Vicks and other nose drops were taken off the market 40 years ago. Your lungs don't remove oil based liquids or vapors easily and I would find a cinnamon liquid that is not oil based.

You might want to look at this thread
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/74109-guide-diy-flavoring.html

 

[Tiari]

It doesn't have to be "allergy", Pure cinnamon oil is caustic, period. Even herbalists warn to avoid it, that stuff HURTS.

 

[JME]

Okay, so NOT safe.

Gotcha.

And, I realize it might have been discussed before, but I like to have my specific concerns addressed and responded to.. I am my own person, you know.

Thanks for the link tho! (Katya) That's a good thread for me to read. I have a hard time searching through posts on here, it seems like I either am searching wrong or the search engine is being too broad.. but I searched for information like that and honestly couldn't find it.

Thanks for the links and other suggestions from other folks too.

So there IS cinnamon that not's cinnamon oil? Good. I'll get right on trying to find some good, different, not caustic vapes... even if I won't be able to taste them for a month. lol

 

[Zal42]

Yes, some people react to cinnamon badly. The amount used in cinnamon juices is rather higher than you find in candies, so your tolerance of the candies isn't really much of an indicator. If cinnamon burns you, stop using it.

Not everyone reacts that way. I vape AC quite a lot and have gotten plenty of it on my skin without burning. I'm not sensitive to it, and so it's a go with me!

 

[MissVapor]

Dude- stop vaping that liquid so you can stop worrying