Hopefully by the time I'm done there will be no juice coming out. That was happening because I was applying too much pressure. I need to come up with a flow restictor that will provide the exact amount for good atomization regardless of pressure.
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The junk I sent should be there today C. Probably nothing you need but hey...it saved me a trip to the dump.Waaaahahaha!! Just toss it if you cant use it, no biggy.
Back for round number 2.
After looking the 1st heater design and now knowing that it could work it was time for some enhancements.
1st off adding the second glass tube around the coil was a bad idea. This was simply adding more mass and was actually removing heat rather than holding it in.
2nd I want to be able to run anywhere from 3V up to 8 volts and get decent efficiency out of the batteries.
3rd I need to minimize any splatter or hot liquid from jumping out of the tube. Like nico said I really need some type of muffler or diverter.
This is a dual coil design, with a pre-heat and then final heat coil arrangement both which are located near the exit side of the tube and wired in parallel (total resistance is 5.6 ohms). Yea, it ain't pretty but this is just testing and feasability.
I needed some way to better distribute the liquid, reduce flow, and get even heating. So, as luck would have it a 1/4 watt resistor lead seamed to just slide down the tube nicely and the body of the resistor sat on the top of the tube like a nice little hat.
This could resolve 2 problems even heat and muffler. I just used 2 magnets to add some weight to hold it more flat against the glass tube.
Running at 5 Volts and 1 amp. Time to temperature is 2 seconds.
YouTube - Glassatty2.MOV
After looking the 1st heater design and now knowing that it could work it was time for some enhancements.
1st off adding the second glass tube around the coil was a bad idea. This was simply adding more mass and was actually removing heat rather than holding it in.
2nd I want to be able to run anywhere from 3V up to 8 volts and get decent efficiency out of the batteries.
3rd I need to minimize any splatter or hot liquid from jumping out of the tube. Like nico said I really need some type of muffler or diverter.
This is a dual coil design, with a pre-heat and then final heat coil arrangement both which are located near the exit side of the tube and wired in parallel (total resistance is 5.6 ohms). Yea, it ain't pretty but this is just testing and feasability.
I needed some way to better distribute the liquid, reduce flow, and get even heating. So, as luck would have it a 1/4 watt resistor lead seamed to just slide down the tube nicely and the body of the resistor sat on the top of the tube like a nice little hat.
This could resolve 2 problems even heat and muffler. I just used 2 magnets to add some weight to hold it more flat against the glass tube.
Running at 5 Volts and 1 amp. Time to temperature is 2 seconds.
YouTube - Glassatty2.MOV
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Now yer cookin....I wonder if pressure in the tube helps raise the temp of the fluid also??
Thank you very much nico. I don't have it yet but I'm sure there will be some good stuff in there.
It's possible pressure could help but there really isn't much there. That resistor and magnets don't weigh much.
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If that thing puts out like that I would go for a PT type with the serious voltage your using...make it a 12v to use with a wall wart or car. You would be famous with the first 12 volter!! Of course it would look like Cheech & Chong coming down the road in the car.LOL
I just think people will eventually find that their big mods are a pita for carrying around in public in general. I'm even thinking about skipping the bat on the one I'm working on and have two bottles of different juice instead. I know when I go out I just grab my 510 instead of my other mods...depends on the situation and personal preference I guess.
I just think people will eventually find that their big mods are a pita for carrying around in public in general. I'm even thinking about skipping the bat on the one I'm working on and have two bottles of different juice instead. I know when I go out I just grab my 510 instead of my other mods...depends on the situation and personal preference I guess.
this is getting more and more interesting,
I had an idea, but i am not good at this kinda stuff so this may be pretty lame but ehh.
can you get spiral glass tubes this small? if so one with a small gap in the middle of the spiral? put the coil in the center with the tube spiraling around it, and plaster the outside of the spiral with that black stuff to help keep the heat in perhaps.
not sure if this would work any better or if such materials even exists but ehh just tossing it out there.
I had an idea, but i am not good at this kinda stuff so this may be pretty lame but ehh.
can you get spiral glass tubes this small? if so one with a small gap in the middle of the spiral? put the coil in the center with the tube spiraling around it, and plaster the outside of the spiral with that black stuff to help keep the heat in perhaps.
not sure if this would work any better or if such materials even exists but ehh just tossing it out there.
Yohoo Christmas in March
.Almost tackled the damn mailman. I swear we have the worst mail delivery here. They deliver my mail any time between 11am and 8PM. You never know when it's going to show up. I need to put a little light that flashes when there is something in the mail box so I'm not going out there every 2 hours.
At any rate thank you very much for the goodies nicotime. I'm sure I will make use of everything in the package. Even the one marked "I don't know, just getting rid of some Shyt".
Really appreciate it.
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Quite welcome C..I just put the flag up on the mailbox when I need to know...pisses the mailman off but I know when they went.
I have had that Teflon sheet for about 20 years now. When I was fabricating steel we used that between some column seats where the I-beam sit on it for expansion joints. I use it for mixing epoxy...nothing sticks(except eggs lol)...just let the stuff you dont use dry and flex it and it peels right off.
I have had that Teflon sheet for about 20 years now. When I was fabricating steel we used that between some column seats where the I-beam sit on it for expansion joints. I use it for mixing epoxy...nothing sticks(except eggs lol)...just let the stuff you dont use dry and flex it and it peels right off.
That could be possible but I don't know where to get spiral tube that could take this heat and be small enough. The more intimate contact with the glass the better. A spiral tube would leave a lot of area that is not being heated so it may not work as well as just straight tube.
Beautiful work on the home-spun wizard-inspired atty,Charged! Brings a tear to the eye!
Seriously...Let me know how to Paypal 'ya when the time is right!!!!!!!
BTW, the clogged Wizard that I was working on is really most completely dead. Was soaking it and running it at the same time, and it appeared to be de-clogging(woo-hoo)then suddenly....nothing. No lights,no bubbles-dead (dramatic movie funeral music here).
So, that there is a working, living atty mod based on this wiz-principle, makes me realize that one day massive vapor will be a sustainable reality! Glory!!!!!!!
Seriously...Let me know how to Paypal 'ya when the time is right!!!!!!!
BTW, the clogged Wizard that I was working on is really most completely dead. Was soaking it and running it at the same time, and it appeared to be de-clogging(woo-hoo)then suddenly....nothing. No lights,no bubbles-dead (dramatic movie funeral music here).
So, that there is a working, living atty mod based on this wiz-principle, makes me realize that one day massive vapor will be a sustainable reality! Glory!!!!!!!
Surf...I think C gave up on the clogs when his ole lady pulled his hot stick out of the juice before he was done trying to clear his tube...hahahahaha
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LMAO, Yes I'm trying to make another clog as we type. Just be vigilant keeping the juice thin SV and it won't clog.
Yes SV I checked and the glass tube I'm working with can slide right down through the O'ring that seals the Wizards fog generator. My plan is to get a viable no-clogging replacement and then come up with a way to put the new design in there. Then I'll start another thread in the atomizer section and pursue another variation of this concept.
Yes SV I checked and the glass tube I'm working with can slide right down through the O'ring that seals the Wizards fog generator. My plan is to get a viable no-clogging replacement and then come up with a way to put the new design in there. Then I'll start another thread in the atomizer section and pursue another variation of this concept.
I just want to chime in here and say very impressive work in progress here. Sure makes me need a Wizard on my work bench.
Fantastic to say the least.
and of course 
Fantastic to say the least.
and of course 
Wee-Haw!!
Would love to see a version that would be compatible with a 4AA rechargeable batt. line-up. Then go really stealth, and make it look like a regular e-cig....then I wouldn't have to worry about carrying my fog-.... in the car....
Nico: Are you saying that the key to a happy marriage is just keeping the juice thin?
Yea I did that for a while until she caught on and quit putting the flag down. One day I was standing in my driveway, she pulled up and put the mail in my box. I walked out and inside was a post office note that said "Sorry we missed you blah blah blah we have a package that requires signature". Now correct me if I'm wrong but isn't she suppose to attempt to get my signature? The next day when I went down to the PO to sign I complained, doubt it will make any difference.
On a lighter note. Thanks all for the encouraging words. Today going to make an attempt at..... round 3, if the family will leave me alone for a bit. Going to give the torch a try and see if I can squeeze the exit end of this tube down a bit to restrict flow and minimize liquid exiting the tube, similar to the resistor hat but use the glass as the restictor instead.
Just a quicky. Was digging through a junk drawer and got a little ......
It was one of these:
Tried it in place of the resistor and it works very well. Almost self regulating. Also tried a normal flat headed one but that was too good of a seal and it just shot out of the tube. I think the ultimate would be a spring loaded ball bearing.
Edit: Just thinking out loud. It may be possible to use a small ball bearing and magnet to accomplish this flow restriction/regulation, dunno.
It was one of these:
Tried it in place of the resistor and it works very well. Almost self regulating. Also tried a normal flat headed one but that was too good of a seal and it just shot out of the tube. I think the ultimate would be a spring loaded ball bearing.
Edit: Just thinking out loud. It may be possible to use a small ball bearing and magnet to accomplish this flow restriction/regulation, dunno.
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Nico: Are you saying that the key to a happy marriage is just keeping the juice thin?
Could be Surf but...I think the thing the lesson learned here is the wife should NEVER pull a mans stick out until his tube is cleared! And if she does it is her duty to continue the unclogging process herself!
C., If you reduce the glass how you gonna clean it. A relief type valve like the ball would work I think...maybe flare the tube at the end to make a ball seat for it then make like a pen pocket clip type retainer with some spring metal to hold the ball in place.
Dont know if I would want that pin shot into the back of my throat...GACK! 8-o THATS what that safety wire was for.lol
Could be Surf but...I think the thing the lesson learned here is the wife should NEVER pull a mans stick out until his tube is cleared! And if she does it is her duty to continue the unclogging process herself!
Yes, I aggree with lesson learned.
And all she did was look at me funny and set it on the table. Wasn't even nice enough to put it back where it was.Sorry forgot.
I didn't post back on that very thin wire. The Wizard designer told me that thin wire is called a wetting wire. It actually spirals around the glass heater tube inside the metal tube. This centers the glass tube in the metal cylinder and also causes the liquid to spiral aound the heater providing more heat over a smaller area. Torchurous path so to speak.Well, I've heated the crap out of the quartz tubing with 2 propane torches at the same time and all I can get it to do is glow red. When I try to crimp the end it is just as stiff as it was when it was cold. I don't have oxy/acet here. My kid borrowed that when he went to PA and I'll probably never see it again.
I don't want to make this more complicated than it needs to be. Sometimes I get off track and overanalyze things. Maybe I need to take a step back and let this sit for a little while.
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