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[KattMamma]

My usually unpopular opinion is that Zappa's albums would be quite awesome if he'd just keep his mouth shut.

That said, I've never been recognized for my taste...


Jay

My first husband was a huge Zappa fan, but I never could get into it much. However, I LOVED how he went to bat for musicians and free speech over the Tipper Gore crap of trying to "clean up" lyrics (which eventually got us those "explicit lyrics" stickers)

Here's part of Zappa's speech to Congress... inspirational!! He not only defended free speech, he blatantly accused them of possibly using the censorship issue to distract from the "blank tape tax" issue (which was imposed by the recording industry to supposedly make up for lost sales due to people recording music onto blank tapes - early "piracy", this was in 1985)

The First thing I would like to do, because I know there is some foreign press involved here and they might not understand what the issue is about, one of the things the issue is about is the First Amendment to the Constitution, and it is short and I would like to read it so they will understand. It says:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
That is for reference.

These are my personal observations and opinions. They are addressed to the PMRC [Parents’ Music Resource Centre] as well as this committee. I speak on behalf of no group or professional organization.

The PMRC proposal is an ill-conceived piece of nonsense which fails to deliver any real benefits to children, infringes the civil liberties of people who are not children, and promises to keep the courts busy for years, dealing with the interpretational and enforcemental problems inherent in the proposal’s design.

It is my understanding that, in law, First Amendment Issues are decided with a preference for the least restrictive alternative. In this context, the PMRC’s demands are the equivalent of treating dandruff by decapitation.

No one has forced Mrs. Baker or Mrs. Gore to bring Prince or Sheena Easton into their homes. Thanks to the Constitution, they are free to buy other forms of music for their children. Apparently, they insist on purchasing the works of contemporary recording artists in order to support a personal illusion of aerobic sophistication. Ladies, please be advised: The $8.98 purchase price does not entitle you to a kiss on the foot from the composer or performer in exchange for a spin on the family Victrola. Taken as a whole, the complete list of PMRC demands reads like an instruction manual for some sinister kind of “toilet training program” to house-break all composers and performers because of the lyrics of a few. Ladies, how dare you?

He also blasted the "think of the children" crap...

The PMRC promotes their program as a harmless type of consumer information service providing “guidelines” which will assist baffled parents in the determination of the “suitability” of records listened to by “very young children”. The methods they propose have several unfortunately [sic] side effects, not the least of which is the reduction of all American Music, recorded and live, to the intellectual level of a Saturday morning cartoon show.

and then there's this gem :

Bad facts make bad law, and people who write bad laws are, in my opinion, more dangerous than songwriters who celebrate sexuality.

And then this reply to Senator Gore when he accused Zappa of believing that parents are silly to be concerned about what their children listen to :

There are too many things that look like hidden agendas involved with this. And I am a parent. I have got four children. Two of them are here. I want them to grow up in a country where they can think what they want to think, be what they want to be, and not what somebody’s wife or somebody in Government makes them be.

and this :

I think you should leave it up to the parents, because not all parents want to keep their children totally ignorant.

I'll stop there, but if anyone is interested in reading the entire testimony, I found it here :

Frank Zappa: Statement To Congress September 19, 1985

 

[chopdoc]

My first husband was a huge Zappa fan, but I never could get into it much. However, I LOVED how he went to bat for musicians and free speech over the Tipper Gore crap of trying to "clean up" lyrics (which eventually got us those "explicit lyrics" stickers)

Here's part of Zappa's speech to Congress... inspirational!! He not only defended free speech, he blatantly accused them of possibly using the censorship issue to distract from the "blank tape tax" issue (which was imposed by the recording industry to supposedly make up for lost sales due to people recording music onto blank tapes - early "piracy", this was in 1985)



He also blasted the "think of the children" crap...



and then there's this gem :



And then this reply to Senator Gore when he accused Zappa of believing that parents are silly to be concerned about what their children listen to :



and this :



I'll stop there, but if anyone is interested in reading the entire testimony, I found it here :

Frank Zappa: Statement To Congress September 19, 1985

Frank Zappa was considered by many to be a genius, not only musically but intellectually as well.

 

[chopdoc]

Good morning mod Wompers!!!!!!!!!

 

[Luke95]

OK ladies and germs. I'm lazy as .... and want to try some good cheap juice. Give me a good suggestion.

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[Lessifer]

OK ladies and germs. I'm lazy as .... and want to try some good cheap juice. Give me a good suggestion.

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What type of juices do you like? MBV has some good fruits and lemonades, ITC Nilla gorilla is good.

 

[Luke95]

I like any kind of juice leaning more towards something fruity or what not.

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[motordude]

I like any kind of juice leaning more towards something fruity or what not.

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Check out Thug juice or Hawk sauce at mt baker.
They are good with 1 flavor shot. IMO

 

[beckdg]

It must be *safe to consume* in order to be kosher. That was the entire point.

Andria

So then if a Rabbi blessed anti-freeze?

Tapatyped

 

[Luke95]

What size is the bottle and the flavor looks good though

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[beckdg]

I figured maybe he was just blowing clouds in Wal Mart and someone took offense....

Probably best to keep that confined to the cereal aisle...

Tapatyped

 

[Luke95]

Never mind found it. Ordering 15 mills of each

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[Lessifer]

My personal favorites from MBV are Rob, Spurburry, and Freckled Lemonade.

They come in 15ml, 30, or 236ml I think.

 

[beckdg]

OK ladies and germs. I'm lazy as .... and want to try some good cheap juice. Give me a good suggestion.

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Freckled lemonade

Either get it already made from mt baker or get flavorwest strawberry lemonade flavor and add it to your base.

Tapatyped

 

[Romano Cheese]

@Luke95 VapeWild has the lowest prices I know of and their juice is good quality, it's all I buy anymore

 

[Luke95]

In side news I have a new job no longer laid off. Even if it was for a week .... that .... man. I'll look them up thanks

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[Romano Cheese]

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[AndriaD]

Frank Zappa was considered by many to be a genius, not only musically but intellectually as well.

I would agree with that... I just don't like talking in my music. Not by anyone, I don't care how smart they are -- music is for SINGING, not talking, particularly not some self-conscious self-amused IDIOCY. And no, I don't like the "talking blues" either. Or rap. Or hip-hop. I like MUSIC, and SINGING.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

So then if a Rabbi blessed anti-freeze?

Tapatyped

Why would he (or she) do that? Anti-freeze isn't for eating.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

My personal favorites from MBV are Rob, Spurburry, and Freckled Lemonade.

They come in 15ml, 30, or 236ml I think.

Any opinion on Blue Moo? They have it on sale and I'm debating ordering it; amazing prices.

Andria

 

[beckdg]

Why would he (or she) do that? Anti-freeze isn't for eating.

Andria

She?
SHE?
SHE!?!?!?!

WHAT is this world coming to?

[emoji14]

Why couldn't anti-freeze be for eating?

Liquid nitrogen isn't for eating, but molecular gastronomy likely wouldn't exist without it.

Tapatyped