The Womper Woom OR You Might Be A Modwomper

[coolerat]

I would prolly rock out at 75w on a single battery if I had to but battery life would be SHORT!!!!

I am having a love affair with the Crown at 50w on my SX Mini and its wonderful but battery life is very short.

A year ago I was using drippers at some pretty big watts but not that big a fan of dripping so returned to tanks mostly and retired my dual battery mods. With todays tanks, mostlt the Steam Engine and now the Crown I've had to trot the old Sig100 and IPV4 out of retirement.

I'm still using 6mg juice which I can only take up to about 50w. But these tanks perform well above that level. I gotta make up some 3mg.

My son actually uses 1.5mg juice but with the ML's he's still getting a good dose. I haven't decided if I wanna go that route yet. In general when I go up in power my daily intact of flavorings stays about the same and way down from tootle puffing. My PG goes down alittle. Nicotine stays about the same. VG goes up. So it comes down to about 10 ml a day of VG.

Or I could stay at 6mg and drop the flavoring down about half. So a little more VGand alot less flavoring and the same or so nic.

 

[Lannie]

The discussion I read was the newb saying he was using his Evic mini at 60 watts and his battery was getting warm after 10 or 15 hits on it, and everyone told him he was really pushing the limits of that one battery. They said warm was OK, but it was telling you you were kinda pushing it, and HOT was bad and could be catastrophic. So I deduced that if 60 watts would make it warm, 75 would prolly make it TOO warm, you know? I'd rather be cool.

You're a stronger man than I am on the nic level! LOL! Now that I'm sub-ohming (at 30 watts, LOL!), 3 mg nic is way too harsh for me. It makes me cough and choke. The only way I can do that much nic is with menthol, and I assume that's because the menthol numbs my throat so I don't feel the "bite" as much. But I only do menthol once in a while, and never at 3 mg anymore. Now I'm down to 1 or 1.5 usually, and sometimes even THAT gets to be too much. If I start feeling too much adrenaline, I move to one of my zero nic mixes.

I was thinking today that next time I make juice, each flavor I make, I'll do two bottles. One with like 1.5 mg nic and one with zero, and then I'll have the same flavor if I want the nic or if I don't. And if I want something in the middle, I can mix it in the tank. As it is, I have to switch flavors if I want to change my nic level, but that's not really a bad thing because I'm a Flavor Butterfly! LOL! I don't mind having lots of flavors to choose from. I would, however, like to be able to manage my nic level a bit more closely.

~Lannie

 

[LJFinFLA]

The discussion I read was the newb saying he was using his Evic mini at 60 watts and his battery was getting warm after 10 or 15 hits on it, and everyone told him he was really pushing the limits of that one battery. They said warm was OK, but it was telling you you were kinda pushing it, and HOT was bad and could be catastrophic. So I deduced that if 60 watts would make it warm, 75 would prolly make it TOO warm, you know? I'd rather be cool.

You're a stronger man than I am on the nic level! LOL! Now that I'm sub-ohming (at 30 watts, LOL!), 3 mg nic is way too harsh for me. It makes me cough and choke. The only way I can do that much nic is with menthol, and I assume that's because the menthol numbs my throat so I don't feel the "bite" as much. But I only do menthol once in a while, and never at 3 mg anymore. Now I'm down to 1 or 1.5 usually, and sometimes even THAT gets to be too much. If I start feeling too much adrenaline, I move to one of my zero nic mixes.

I was thinking today that next time I make juice, each flavor I make, I'll do two bottles. One with like 1.5 mg nic and one with zero, and then I'll have the same flavor if I want the nic or if I don't. And if I want something in the middle, I can mix it in the tank. As it is, I have to switch flavors if I want to change my nic level, but that's not really a bad thing because I'm a Flavor Butterfly! LOL! I don't mind having lots of flavors to choose from. I would, however, like to be able to manage my nic level a bit more closely.

~Lannie

I think that most of the manufacturers fib on what their mods and batteries can produce. It would have to be a perfect world for everything they claim to happen. That's just my opinion of what I've read. I never really push any of beyond what I have setup. Like you I love flavor and I have about 10 flavors that I use daily and have several more that I experiment with. Anyway that's my .

 

[coolerat]

I used to make 4 juices. All the same flavor. Then I standardized on all the same everything. Now I changing again.

12mg tootle puffer juice. Massive amounts of flavoring. High nic and low power mask flavors so much. Its no wonder back in the day they had just basic stuff. My ADV has several flavors and just the slightest wisp of menthol. Run that juice through a TP and all you get is strong menthol. So I had to double everything except the menthol which I halved.

6mg-my ADV

3mg-high power dripper juice

2mg for really high power stuff

Until the house is done I can't make anything new

The Crown with the .5 coil at 50w with some low nic I could put down 20-30ml easy.

 

[Lannie]

Back when I was a noob (LOL!), I remember reading somewhere on here that you shouldn't use your mod at the maximum wattage, because you'd "wear it out faster" or something. I can't remember, and I haven't seen anything like that since, but there was a thread where that was being discussed. Anyway, I have the Disrupters that go up to 50 and I use them at 30 to 45, depending on which tanks are on them, and my Evic mini usually runs at between 25 and 30, my little 40W Kbox sits on 30 and the iJoy is at 30 to 35. So my 'Rupters are the only ones I run even close to their upper limit and that's only when I have the Aromamizer tank on one of them. It does best for me at 45 watts. The Lemo 2 likes to be at 35 to 40, and the iSub Gs do best at around 30. I'm happy with all of them at those levels, and NONE of them get even vaguely warm, except from my hand.

The Crown with the .5 coil at 50w with some low nic I could put down 20-30ml easy.

OMG, I know! I can see myself going there... I'm so glad I learned how to make my own juice! I can taste all the individual flavors in a juice at higher power and very low, or no, nic. And I'm such a flavor junkie now, I'm worse than I EVER was with cigarettes!

~Lannie

 

[coolerat]

My low power stuff, Kabuki/Triton/Nautilus/Kayfun, all tastes about the same. Harsh because of the nicotine and PG. These are for deliveray of a drug. No pleasure here.

But my higher power stuff is a different ball game. I make the 6mg 500ml at a time, always the same.

But each tank and each power level gives me a different experience. I think I like the Arctic in TC best but I can drain it in seconds. They are all different and each wonderful.

Right this minute I can have 10 different tastes. But they all came out of the same jar.

Normally I'm about where you are, 30-40 watts. I'm higher now. In a few weeks I will be lower. But I always seem to come back to that 30w sweet spot.

 

[LJFinFLA]

Back when I was a noob (LOL!), I remember reading somewhere on here that you shouldn't use your mod at the maximum wattage, because you'd "wear it out faster" or something. I can't remember, and I haven't seen anything like that since, but there was a thread where that was being discussed. Anyway, I have the Disrupters that go up to 50 and I use them at 30 to 45, depending on which tanks are on them, and my Evic mini usually runs at between 25 and 30, my little 40W Kbox sits on 30 and the iJoy is at 30 to 35. So my 'Rupters are the only ones I run even close to their upper limit and that's only when I have the Aromamizer tank on one of them. It does best for me at 45 watts. The Lemo 2 likes to be at 35 to 40, and the iSub Gs do best at around 30. I'm happy with all of them at those levels, and NONE of them get even vaguely warm, except from my hand.



OMG, I know! I can see myself going there... I'm so glad I learned how to make my own juice! I can taste all the individual flavors in a juice at higher power and very low, or no, nic. And I'm such a flavor junkie now, I'm worse than I EVER was with cigarettes!

~Lannie

Most of the time I vape at 25-45 watts but when I need to go higher I use dual battery mods like my SnowWolf 200w and even then the most I'll do is around 75-90 watts depending on my build, so I'm not to concerned. I would NEVER go to 200watts!!

 

[coolerat]

With my DNA200 in TC mode I admitt I went 200w once.

Even with TC thats a massive first hit and with the setup I was using I can honestly say it was NOT my thing.

However I can say I did it which gives me street cred yo

 

[jbnuke]

With my DNA200 in TC mode I admitt I went 200w once.

Even with TC thats a massive first hit and with the setup I was using I can honestly say it was NOT my thing.

However I can say I did it which gives me street cred yo

Yo i did it with dual coil claptons in a dripper.. for 2 seconds... its doable but very hot vape... so yeah... street cred yo.

 

[coolerat]

Yo i did it with dual coil claptons in a dripper.. for 2 seconds... its doable but very hot vape... so yeah... street cred yo.

Word to your mother my brother!!!

Cause cloudz bro

 

[LJFinFLA]

The last guy to do 200 watts!!

 

[Lannie]

However I can say I did it which gives me street cred yo

And all the rest of you!

Got my giggle for the day, thanks! ...street cred yo... LOL!

 

[Boden]

I frequently still read posts in the newbie section, because I'm still learnin' stuff (and sometimes some of that stuff will give me a laugh or at least a giggle), and I was just reading one where several of the old-time ECFers say you can't safely use a single 18650 battery at more than about 60 watts. So even though my iJoy Solo will GO to 75 watts, I won't be using that much of it, apparently. I had said I was going to try Rixta's raspberry doughnut juice at a higher wattage (and a different tank than the iSub), but now I'm not gonna.

That juice is DELISH at 30 to 35 watts, and I will enjoy it at that level. If I ever get another mod that takes two 18650s or an internal battery that will go that high, then maybe I'll try it at higher watts, but I don't got none o' those yet! LOL!

~Lannie

60W is about the limit for any single Li cell. The problem isn't that it'll blow up but that such deep discharges take a long time for the cell to recover from. Continuly drawing that much energy will turn a 2500mAh cell into a 1200mAh cell at that wattage setting.

And all the rest of you!

Got my giggle for the day, thanks! ...street cred yo... LOL!

I just did a build for 200W. It is a nice warm vape but it's like drinking from a firehose.

When you hit the fire button you gotta move some serious air.

 

[Lannie]

60W is about the limit for any single Li cell. The problem isn't that it'll blow up but that such deep discharges take a long time for the cell to recover from. Continuly drawing that much energy will turn a 2500mAh cell into a 1200mAh cell at that wattage setting.

Thanks for that info. I wasn't sure what the consequences would be, but being the frugal person I am, that's as good a reason as any not to over use my batteries.

I just did a build for 200W. It is a nice warm vape but it's like drinking from a firehose.

When you hit the fire button you gotta move some serious air.

And THAT got a belly laugh outta me! Drinking from a firehose! OMG!

 

[DavidOck]

Back when I was a noob (LOL!), I remember reading somewhere on here that you shouldn't use your mod at the maximum wattage, because you'd "wear it out faster" or something.

While I've not seen any real tests, it makes sense - to me, at least.

Your car, if it has a tach, has a "red-line" for RPM, above which it's not recommended to go. But if you always drive AT redline, your engine isn't going to last as long... and race cars usually get a complete rebuild between races...

With electronics, heat is a big killer. Running a mod at it's maximum all the time, you're also running it at maximum heat - all the time. Yes, it's (supposedly) designed to handle it, but...

Wear and tear on the battery is as Boden mentioned.

 

[Boden]

And THAT got a belly laugh outta me! Drinking from a firehose! OMG!

It's freakin intense

 

[Atchafalaya]

60W is about the limit for any single Li cell. The problem isn't that it'll blow up but that such deep discharges take a long time for the cell to recover from. Continuly drawing that much energy will turn a 2500mAh cell into a 1200mAh cell at that wattage setting.



I just did a build for 200W. It is a nice warm vape but it's like drinking from a firehose.

When you hit the fire button you gotta move some serious air.

Oh. Da Man speaks.

 

[chopdoc]

Back when I was a noob (LOL!), I remember reading somewhere on here that you shouldn't use your mod at the maximum wattage, because you'd "wear it out faster" or something. I can't remember, and I haven't seen anything like that since, but there was a thread where that was being discussed. Anyway, I have the Disrupters that go up to 50 and I use them at 30 to 45, depending on which tanks are on them, and my Evic mini usually runs at between 25 and 30, my little 40W Kbox sits on 30 and the iJoy is at 30 to 35. So my 'Rupters are the only ones I run even close to their upper limit and that's only when I have the Aromamizer tank on one of them. It does best for me at 45 watts. The Lemo 2 likes to be at 35 to 40, and the iSub Gs do best at around 30. I'm happy with all of them at those levels, and NONE of them get even vaguely warm, except from my hand.



OMG, I know! I can see myself going there... I'm so glad I learned how to make my own juice! I can taste all the individual flavors in a juice at higher power and very low, or no, nic. And I'm such a flavor junkie now, I'm worse than I EVER was with cigarettes!

~Lannie

There is a ton of self proclaimed experts out there each contradicting each other.

The best bet is steam engine and mooch. If steam engine says you can safely pull that wattage on that coil and mooch agrees that battery is capable of producing the rated power, then for all practical purposes, it should be safe.

 

[chopdoc]

Most of the time I vape at 25-45 watts but when I need to go higher I use dual battery mods like my SnowWolf 200w and even then the most I'll do is around 75-90 watts depending on my build, so I'm not to concerned. I would NEVER go to 200watts!!

With my DNA200 in TC mode I admitt I went 200w once.

Even with TC thats a massive first hit and with the setup I was using I can honestly say it was NOT my thing.

However I can say I did it which gives me street cred yo

Yo i did it with dual coil claptons in a dripper.. for 2 seconds... its doable but very hot vape... so yeah... street cred yo.

60W is about the limit for any single Li cell. The problem isn't that it'll blow up but that such deep discharges take a long time for the cell to recover from. Continuly drawing that much energy will turn a 2500mAh cell into a 1200mAh cell at that wattage setting.



I just did a build for 200W. It is a nice warm vape but it's like drinking from a firehose.

When you hit the fire button you gotta move some serious air.

I built a quad coil in a mutation once and vaped it at 200. Well not really vaped, more like drank from it. Massive thick vape with dense thick flavor. It was intense for sure!

Also had my snow wolf with a TVF4 in my shirt pocket at work one night and took a quick vape break. Started hitting on it and wondering why it was pulsing on me. Looked and it was set at 200 watts. Tasted good but didnt leave it there

 

[jbnuke]

I built a quad coil in a mutation once and vaped it at 200. Well not really vaped, more like drank from it. Massive thick vape with dense thick flavor. It was intense for sure!

Also had my snow wolf with a TVF4 in my shirt pocket at work one night and took a quick vape break. Started hitting on it and wondering why it was pulsing on me. Looked and it was set at 200 watts. Tasted good but didnt leave it there

Yo all these peeps with cred dawg. We be sarting a 200w gang soon yo.. you down bra?