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Man....does this mean I have a defect lol
I see that all of you have no leakage but as for mine....just by tilting it in the side a bit you can practically see the liquid coming up the juice chamber up towards the black preek....whats up with mine!:-x
Ughhhhh I'm on my phone right now & cant see where it's leaking from but that aside, did you try flipping the glass?
 
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Did you try washing & drying it & checking for the tiny, tiny o ring that going onto the peek insulator "regulating component" that's what Wismec calls it.
All I did when I got around to finally opening mine is removed the glass, trimmed the wick & added juice. I never even bothered to break it down & inspect it. LOL!! I crack me up. ;)
 

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Using rayon, the rule of thumb is "more in the coil, less in the tails" so to speak. I've been thinning the tails enough to promote juice flow, but leaving enough to allow the wick to fill the deck channels.
How's this look?
 

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Okay, so Ive had the Wismec Theorem for a few days now, and used it extensively with different coils and settings. My initial review was largely positive, but after using it non stop, here are some of the pro's and con's I think people should be made aware of.

Keep in mind my style of vape is for the most part above 45 watts, and prefer kanthol wire; I also never enjoyed temp control, having used nickel, titanium and SS in the past.

Con's: The notch coil is hugely dissapointing. If you take too long of a drag, and you get dry/burn hits and they are among the nastiest. I initially tried it on a IPVd2, and due to the step down issue, I used it in Joules mode as suggested on this forum to by pass that glitch as a workaround.

I put in in SS Ni and Ti mode at max temp 570 F i believe, and had my joules between 20-40, and the it was great until the unpredicatble dry hits happened. I inspected the notch coil closer, and determined that maybe one of the leads wasn't making proper contact or slightly warped, so I put in the brand new spare notch coil.

Same result, anything above 25 joules at max temp still resulted in dry hits if you take drags longer than a few seconds.

So I took it off, figuring the IPVd2 wasn't really compatible with this tank, and used in on my Smok Cube Mini, and ran it first in temp control, SS mode single coil. I played with the temp from 300 F-max, and again the notch coil gave the dry hits!

On reddit, it looks like MANY people are also getting these dry hits using various methods. So either some of the notch coils are defective, or are only sufficient for those who vape at lower wattages and temps.

I vape straight to lung with long deep inhales until my chest cavity is full of vape. Looks like the notch coil isnt meant for that type of vaping, imo at higher wattages.

Pro's: I ditched the notch coil completely and put in dual vertical claptons, 32/26ga. I have it set at 60 Watts, .37 ohms with power level normal. I'm using the rare Hydrid Creations "Mahalo" ejuice (peanut butter/roasted marshmallow) @6mg Nic, created by the innovative gourmet ejuice alchemist, Chris Ort here locally in Southern California.

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Now we're talking! Ramp up time is excellent, it brought out a note/flavor in the juice I hadnt been able to detect for a few years, and was just the right setting for me.

The air flow ring deal is a bit convoluted, but kind of cool I guess for innovation. As long as you grab onto the glass to detatch the top, it comes off and goes it with just enough resistance to let you know its perfectly secure.

Only thing I can say is that though you should screw the tank into the mod relatively snug, over tightening it makes it difficult to unscrew since you need to use the glass as leverage and I can easily see how it can break. But if your tank is empty, you can just remove the glass and use the posts as leverage to remove it.

Overall, its a cool vape product, but what my final verdict compared to the Avocado?

I hate to say it, but since I only got the Avocado to tide me over until the Theorem arrived, I cant help but admit that the Avocado is a better tank all around. I cant quite put my finger on it; maybe its because I get more of an impact with the Avocado wide boar drip tip, but the flavor and vape quality is just better, and not by a narrow margin.

The Theorem may be the coolest looking tank I have ever owned, and it's sleekness and beautifully designed appearance will probably go unmatched for awhile.

I will still use it because of it's "newness" and my love of all things new and gadgety. But overall it did not live up to the hype, but still my second favorite tank aside from the Avocado.

If I lost it today, would I buy it tomorrow? I can certainly live without it, but I am a huge fan/enthusiast and collector, so I would get it again jus to have it. I also have a Vicious Ant AX1 RDA clone which I have only used once that I simply bought based on its sleek futuristic look.
 

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Okay, so Ive had the Wismec Theorem for a few days now, and used it extensively with different coils and settings. My initial review was largely positive, but after using it non stop, here are some of the pro's and con's I think people should be made aware of.

Keep in mind my style of vape is for the most part above 45 watts, and prefer kanthol wire; I also never enjoyed temp control, having used nickel, titanium and SS in the past.

Con's: The notch coil is hugely dissapointing. If you take too long of a drag, and you get dry/burn hits and they are among the nastiest. I initially tried it on a IPVd2, and due to the step down issue, I used it in Joules mode as suggested on this forum to by pass that glitch as a workaround.

I put in in SS Ni and Ti mode at max temp 570 F i believe, and had my joules between 20-40, and the it was great until the unpredicatble dry hits happened. I inspected the notch coil closer, and determined that maybe one of the leads wasn't making proper contact or slightly warped, so I put in the brand new spare notch coil.

Same result, anything above 25 joules at max temp still resulted in dry hits if you take drags longer than a few seconds.

So I took it off, figuring the IPVd2 wasn't really compatible with this tank, and used in on my Smok Cube Mini, and ran it first in temp control, SS mode single coil. I played with the temp from 300 F-max, and again the notch coil gave the dry hits!

On reddit, it looks like MANY people are also getting these dry hits using various methods. So either some of the notch coils are defective, or are only sufficient for those who vape at lower wattages and temps.

I vape straight to lung with long deep inhales until my chest cavity is full of vape. Looks like the notch coil isnt meant for that type of vaping, imo at higher wattages.

Pro's: I ditched the notch coil completely and put in dual vertical claptons, 32/26ga. I have it set at 60 Watts, .37 ohms with power level normal. I'm using the rare Hydrid Creations "Mahalo" ejuice (peanut butter/roasted marshmallow) @6mg Nic, created by the innovative gourmet ejuice alchemist, Chris Ort here locally in Southern California.

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Now we're talking! Ramp up time is excellent, it brought out a note/flavor in the juice I hadnt been able to detect for a few years, and was just the right setting for me.

The air flow ring deal is a bit convoluted, but kind of cool I guess for innovation. As long as you grab onto the glass to detatch the top, it comes off and goes it with just enough resistance to let you know its perfectly secure.

Only thing I can say is that though you should screw the tank into the mod relatively snug, over tightening it makes it difficult to unscrew since you need to use the glass as leverage and I can easily see how it can break. But if your tank is empty, you can just remove the glass and use the posts as leverage to remove it.

Overall, its a cool vape product, but what my final verdict compared to the Avocado?

I hate to say it, but since I only got the Avocado to tide me over until the Theorem arrived, I cant help but admit that the Avocado is a better tank all around. I cant quite put my finger on it; maybe its because I get more of an impact with the Avocado wide boar drip tip, but the flavor and vape quality is just better, and not by a narrow margin.

The Theorem may be the coolest looking tank I have ever owned, and it's sleekness and beautifully designed appearance will probably go unmatched for awhile.

I will still use it because of it's "newness" and my love of all things new and gadgety. But overall it did not live up to the hype, but still my second favorite tank aside from the Avocado.

If I lost it today, would I buy it tomorrow? I can certainly live without it, but I am a huge fan/enthusiast and collector, so I would get it again jus to have it. I also have a Vicious Ant AX1 RDA clone which I have only used once that I simply bought based on its sleek futuristic look.
See, and I was trying to hold off on getting the Avacado 24 to get this one! We have a lot of the same notes. Notch coil was not my style. fused claptons opened it up, but I'm going to mess with it this weekend to dial it in a bit better.
 
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Okay, so Ive had the Wismec Theorem for a few days now, and used it extensively with different coils and settings. My initial review was largely positive, but after using it non stop, here are some of the pro's and con's I think people should be made aware of.

Keep in mind my style of vape is for the most part above 45 watts, and prefer kanthol wire; I also never enjoyed temp control, having used nickel, titanium and SS in the past.

Con's: The notch coil is hugely dissapointing. If you take too long of a drag, and you get dry/burn hits and they are among the nastiest. I initially tried it on a IPVd2, and due to the step down issue, I used it in Joules mode as suggested on this forum to by pass that glitch as a workaround.

I put in in SS Ni and Ti mode at max temp 570 F i believe, and had my joules between 20-40, and the it was great until the unpredicatble dry hits happened. I inspected the notch coil closer, and determined that maybe one of the leads wasn't making proper contact or slightly warped, so I put in the brand new spare notch coil.

Same result, anything above 25 joules at max temp still resulted in dry hits if you take drags longer than a few seconds.

So I took it off, figuring the IPVd2 wasn't really compatible with this tank, and used in on my Smok Cube Mini, and ran it first in temp control, SS mode single coil. I played with the temp from 300 F-max, and again the notch coil gave the dry hits!

On reddit, it looks like MANY people are also getting these dry hits using various methods. So either some of the notch coils are defective, or are only sufficient for those who vape at lower wattages and temps.

I vape straight to lung with long deep inhales until my chest cavity is full of vape. Looks like the notch coil isnt meant for that type of vaping, imo at higher wattages.

Pro's: I ditched the notch coil completely and put in dual vertical claptons, 32/26ga. I have it set at 60 Watts, .37 ohms with power level normal. I'm using the rare Hydrid Creations "Mahalo" ejuice (peanut butter/roasted marshmallow) @6mg Nic, created by the innovative gourmet ejuice alchemist, Chris Ort here locally in Southern California.

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Now we're talking! Ramp up time is excellent, it brought out a note/flavor in the juice I hadnt been able to detect for a few years, and was just the right setting for me.

The air flow ring deal is a bit convoluted, but kind of cool I guess for innovation. As long as you grab onto the glass to detatch the top, it comes off and goes it with just enough resistance to let you know its perfectly secure.

Only thing I can say is that though you should screw the tank into the mod relatively snug, over tightening it makes it difficult to unscrew since you need to use the glass as leverage and I can easily see how it can break. But if your tank is empty, you can just remove the glass and use the posts as leverage to remove it.

Overall, its a cool vape product, but what my final verdict compared to the Avocado?

I hate to say it, but since I only got the Avocado to tide me over until the Theorem arrived, I cant help but admit that the Avocado is a better tank all around. I cant quite put my finger on it; maybe its because I get more of an impact with the Avocado wide boar drip tip, but the flavor and vape quality is just better, and not by a narrow margin.

The Theorem may be the coolest looking tank I have ever owned, and it's sleekness and beautifully designed appearance will probably go unmatched for awhile.

I will still use it because of it's "newness" and my love of all things new and gadgety. But overall it did not live up to the hype, but still my second favorite tank aside from the Avocado.

If I lost it today, would I buy it tomorrow? I can certainly live without it, but I am a huge fan/enthusiast and collector, so I would get it again jus to have it. I also have a Vicious Ant AX1 RDA clone which I have only used once that I simply bought based on its sleek futuristic look.
Ironically I was going back & forth on the Avocado & then the Theorem came out. With all the hype I decided on this, wish I would've went with the Avocado now :yawn:
 

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I keep seeing people complaining that it uses juice really quickly. But it really doesn't for me. Actually, it goes through the juice slower than my avocado. I've brought it out with me to work today and no leakage so far. I"ve been in the office most of the day so I haven't been vaping on it except during the ride here and 1 break. And I haven't had to refill it yet. I will need to when I get off work though as it's about empty.

I think it's all about how you wick it. When it's wicked right and the coil is in the right place, its better than a decent amount of my drippers. I'm really really impressed with it.

Has anyone else been getting big nicotine buzzes from it? It's weird, I haven't had a nicotine buzz in years and if I don't vape on this thing for a few hours I get a really big buzz from it when I go back to it again.
 
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Oh and temp control on my minikin is where it's at with this thing!!! My minikin doesn't have stainless steel setting, but I put it on titanium at about 250 degrees, 45 watts and WOWZA! amazing. And it doesn't go through the juice as fast as power mode.

The sleeve it came with is kinda cool, but it's a pain in the ... to fill the tank with the sleeve on because you can't see into the tank. So I haven't been using it.

Edit: @Heartsdelight The avocado is great, but this has better airflow and I like it more. Your mileage may vary though.
 
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Ive experimented with the wicking (scottish style fluff), and even with cotton barely wide enough to cover the diameter of the wick openings, the surface tension of the ejuice and the opening is more than enough to keep it sealed, though of course you wouldnt want to let it sit sideways or upside down for longer than a couple minutes.

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lol does flipping the glass make a.difference?:blink:
Yes. According to Matt (Suck My Mod) the glass is shaped to fit snug at the bottom to prevent leaking &.....wait....lem'me find the video in which he talked about the glass.

I even linked you to where he starts talking about the glass & how it should fit.........If it helps you- you're welcome. ;)

 

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Ive experimented with the wicking (scottish style fluff), and even with cotton barely wide enough to cover the diameter of the wick openings, the surface tension of the ejuice and the opening is more than enough to keep it sealed, though of course you wouldnt want to let it sit sideways or upside down for longer than a couple minutes.

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OK I had to run out to the dentist so without thinking about it, I grabbed my Theorem set up (even tho I said it wasn't for the street) & jetted out the door (had to leave in a hurry). Several things happened- left the dentist office (vaping), stopped for some food I hate to cook (vaping), heard gunshots (vaping WTF vaping), heard cars crashing (vaping WHAAAAT), watch police barreling from 4 different directions towards scene of the crime (vaping), then threw mod/Theorem in my pocket & started taking pics while waiting for my ride to return. :sneaky:

When I got back in the car (about 45 min from the time of the shooting) I hadn't realized it was in my pocket upside down. NO LEAKS!!! :thumbs:

DISCLAIMER~ No Theorem was harmed in the taking of these pics.

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Man....does this mean I have a defect lol
I see that all of you have no leakage but as for mine....just by tilting it in the side a bit you can practically see the liquid coming up the juice chamber up towards the black preek....whats up with mine!:-x

That's not leaking, it's residual juice in the deck getting squeezed between the PEEK and the glass when you insert the top. Don't worry about it, that's just as much a part of the chamber as the coil side is, it's not meant to be bone dry.
 
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