There goes the future of us
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Wow, a story like that makes page 5 of the newspaper (I'm assuming it's WB).
Dog media throwing us dog food, hoping to raise a generation of unquestioning, obedient dogs.
"How could he do that... It's ILLEGAL!"
At least this will serve as a reminder for us to vape discreetly, just in case someone with no job and a STOMP account decides to get shutter-happy.
Dog media throwing us dog food, hoping to raise a generation of unquestioning, obedient dogs.
"How could he do that... It's ILLEGAL!"
At least this will serve as a reminder for us to vape discreetly, just in case someone with no job and a STOMP account decides to get shutter-happy.
The following are my personal opinions and does not necessarily reflect the views of the general public nor the sgvapers community here
To the person on the papers, I hope that you are a member of ecf and have seen all the comments made by the rest of the members. It is definitely a very irresponsible act that you have made. Vapers here definitely do not need to be thrown into the limelight. As it is now, I am sure that there were many a times that vapers have vaped in quiet corners or personal space that is visible (car) and have been seen by some authorities that have closed a blind eye because the vapers were not affecting the general public. Vapers here do not need such news that causes blind eyes to be given orders to open up their eyes. I had a uncle who once told me PROUDLY that he was vaping in the middle of People's Park and was caught. He was kindly advised to do such things at home and not to do it in public. I gave him a good talking but in a tone that a junior would speak to a senior and hope he do not such things again. Do not take kindness of the officer for weakness.
Secondly, I strongly believe that this is not a politics forum and we should keep it as such.
On the other hand, I also feel that "non-law abiding" vapers have been forced to do so because we had no choice. Alot of vapers are very law abiding citizens but have taken to be "non-law abiding" for this situation as we have seen the advantage of ecigs over analogs that we used to smoke.
We are in a country that office holders are all supposed to be "clean" and "holistic" who doesnt smoke. The ratio of smokers office holders vs smokers common citizen does not represent the number of smokers there are in Singapore. Nobody will dare to openly speak up for us in parliament sittings and etc. Neither do the vapers here dare speak up as it will throw the vapers into a very difficult limelight situation that will force vapers back to analogs.
I am sure that most vapers are definitely willing to abide by laws that are similar to smoking if implemented for e-cigs. Laws such as vaping in areas that only smoking is allowed and no sale to under 18 are definitely what vapers would abide so that we would not affect the general public. Sadly, the current blanket ban has caused vapers unable to vape in smoking areas and because they are no regulating laws. The under 18s can also get it the same way that most vapers in Singapore does.
The evolution / revolution is coming and there is no way to blanket ban it forever. Do we need another F1 or casino situation where we realise the advantages only after many years?
How many times have we heard vapers not daring to vape some Malaysia made e-liquids cos the vapers do not know what goes into it and how it was made. We however have not much choice as many cant afford to keep vaping on the expensive imported stuff from the states and europe because the shipping cost is costed into the selling price. Given the reputation of HSA, Singapore is definitely able to produce better regulated e-liquids by strict HSA regulated labs and factories. Guidelines just need to be given clearly. The Singapore produced or Singapore allowed imports would definitely carry a good branding for the ever growing number of e-liquid companies. Vapers can also vape on trusted product that have passed the stringent requirements.
Last but no least, a plea again to the vapers here that vapers here do not need to be thrown into more limelight so please be responsible. Because of the same reason, this writeup will also remain just here and not to the papers nor the facebook of certain office holders.
To the person on the papers, I hope that you are a member of ecf and have seen all the comments made by the rest of the members. It is definitely a very irresponsible act that you have made. Vapers here definitely do not need to be thrown into the limelight. As it is now, I am sure that there were many a times that vapers have vaped in quiet corners or personal space that is visible (car) and have been seen by some authorities that have closed a blind eye because the vapers were not affecting the general public. Vapers here do not need such news that causes blind eyes to be given orders to open up their eyes. I had a uncle who once told me PROUDLY that he was vaping in the middle of People's Park and was caught. He was kindly advised to do such things at home and not to do it in public. I gave him a good talking but in a tone that a junior would speak to a senior and hope he do not such things again. Do not take kindness of the officer for weakness.
Secondly, I strongly believe that this is not a politics forum and we should keep it as such.
On the other hand, I also feel that "non-law abiding" vapers have been forced to do so because we had no choice. Alot of vapers are very law abiding citizens but have taken to be "non-law abiding" for this situation as we have seen the advantage of ecigs over analogs that we used to smoke.
We are in a country that office holders are all supposed to be "clean" and "holistic" who doesnt smoke. The ratio of smokers office holders vs smokers common citizen does not represent the number of smokers there are in Singapore. Nobody will dare to openly speak up for us in parliament sittings and etc. Neither do the vapers here dare speak up as it will throw the vapers into a very difficult limelight situation that will force vapers back to analogs.
I am sure that most vapers are definitely willing to abide by laws that are similar to smoking if implemented for e-cigs. Laws such as vaping in areas that only smoking is allowed and no sale to under 18 are definitely what vapers would abide so that we would not affect the general public. Sadly, the current blanket ban has caused vapers unable to vape in smoking areas and because they are no regulating laws. The under 18s can also get it the same way that most vapers in Singapore does.
The evolution / revolution is coming and there is no way to blanket ban it forever. Do we need another F1 or casino situation where we realise the advantages only after many years?
How many times have we heard vapers not daring to vape some Malaysia made e-liquids cos the vapers do not know what goes into it and how it was made. We however have not much choice as many cant afford to keep vaping on the expensive imported stuff from the states and europe because the shipping cost is costed into the selling price. Given the reputation of HSA, Singapore is definitely able to produce better regulated e-liquids by strict HSA regulated labs and factories. Guidelines just need to be given clearly. The Singapore produced or Singapore allowed imports would definitely carry a good branding for the ever growing number of e-liquid companies. Vapers can also vape on trusted product that have passed the stringent requirements.
Last but no least, a plea again to the vapers here that vapers here do not need to be thrown into more limelight so please be responsible. Because of the same reason, this writeup will also remain just here and not to the papers nor the facebook of certain office holders.
My feel is gov will just keep biting on this point (shown in papers) that it will attract more youngsters to pick up smoking. And they will continue to blanket ban e-cigg, the whole e-cigg thingy will be bush aside again.
Gahmen always encourage stop smoking stop smoking, then vaping comes along as an alternative solution, then they wanna ban cuz afraid youngsters would find it hip and cool. The thing is youngsters already smokes with or without e-cigs, so whats ban for? I would prefer to let them start on e-cigs than analogs... the latter is more deadly man, and more expensive.
Maybe gahmen wants money on tax uh, 300+ per kg not bad leh
Maybe gahmen wants money on tax uh, 300+ per kg not bad leh
In that case, we have a good chance of legalisation.
China will definitely take over the top superpower role soon and I believe it is totally legal in China?
China will definitely take over the top superpower role soon and I believe it is totally legal in China?
One of the latest form of control on contraband (formerly) was the Shisha and the shisha industry.
Previously was peddled without license at Arab St costing around $8-$12, if I remembered correctly. Circa at the turn of the century
Now is about $26. License hardly given out anymore and regular checks by HiShAm.
Previously was peddled without license at Arab St costing around $8-$12, if I remembered correctly. Circa at the turn of the century
Now is about $26. License hardly given out anymore and regular checks by HiShAm.
If they'd legalize it probably we'll have egos that cost as much as a provari, liqua that cost as much as a five pawn. And the only consolation is that we can finally vape on the streets
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