There might be something to these "microcoils" - my first

[John_]

I've been happy with two 3/4 wraps of 28 gauge in an rda since I first started building in one. Yesterday I was bored and decided to try and make that type of coil EVERYBODY has been talking about or has heard of, the microcoil. I wrapped 28 gauge around a bolt until the coil looked long, unscrewed it from the bolt, pinched it with some tweezers, and then hit for a good while with a butane torch. After some fiddling and some more torching I had a coil I thought looked decent and put it in my IGO-L (finally got around to drilling out the air hole so I can use it again, yay!).

Thoughts? Impressions? Recommendations? I took videos of it firing dry and when wicked, the links are below.

28 Gauge Kanthal, 2.4 Ohms, Cotton Wick, 50/50 juice, 15 Watts

Dry Fire

Wet Fire?

 

[super_X_drifter]

Bro, nice looking coil . But it is way bigger than a micro coil.

Not your fault though, The video celebs (now that they are talking about "micro coils") forgot pretty much the entire reason that it is called a micro coil - because of its tiny inside diameter.

Touching wraps is great, but that's only 1/2 of what makes a micro coil vape like it does

The best tool for micro beginners is a 1/16" drill bit. Here's a chart to help you understand if your coil is micro or not depending on what you use to wrap it around



Here's a video on how to make one by a seasoned micro cooler
http://youtu.be/_XjH8lFurPk

That's still a great looking coil bro .

 

[John_]

Ahhh perfect! Thanks, this is exactly why I wanted to make this post.

 

[pdib]

btw, that is a dam fine looking coil-that's-not-a-micro-coil. Fires beautifully!

 

[John_]

That's still a great looking coil bro .

btw, that is a dam fine looking coil-that's-not-a-micro-coil. Fires beautifully!

I have to admit it did make be a bit giddy seeing it light up like that for the first time, and thanks.

 

[rob2655]

Thanks for posting that chart, super_X! I thought I had been building micros, but turns out I've been building minis. No complaints, though! I started with dual 28g minis (used a 5/64 bit) on my Patriot RDA, and now I can't stop building the things. The vapor and flavor is on a whole other level. Next up is to try the auto-dripping with a micro on a genny that I saw in Rip Trippers vid here.

 

[pdib]

It's cool that people watch videos and learn stuff! I learned a lot of things watching videos; so don't misunderstand. But that ↑ dude is 3-6 months late and $5 short. We perfected super_X_drifter's micro coil months before that guy even caught wind of it. As for this "dripping on a Genny" business . . .. . http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rebuildable-atomizer-systems/391154-aggies-not-genny-anymore.html?highlight=a+Genny

and this . . . .http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rebuildable-atomizer-systems/402821-nextel-xc-116-u-wick-aga-t2-5.html#post9314699

BUT MOSTLY . .. . . THIS

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rebuildable-atomizer-systems/404157-tilting-survey-3.html#post9292330


All this stuff is from, like, March, or something. I left that shizzle behind months ago.

 

[josho]

The instruction provided in the microcoil thread is worth it's weight in kanthal a-1.

I read the whole thread, and read it again, and built my first micro (and first coil ever). It's just pure genius. Never gonna bother trying anything else. A micro + cotton = pure bliss, from 0.5ohms to 3ohms and probably further.

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[John_]

I tried my first cotton wick awhile ago and haven't looked back, I have a couple dozen feet of ekowool that as of now is going to remain unused and just take up space.

 

[josho]

I tried my first cotton wick awhile ago and haven't looked back, I have a couple dozen feet of ekowool that as of now is going to remain unused and just take up space.

Welcome to the dark side have you tried the cookies? They're delicious.

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[josho]

And I'll say, what really kills me is I fought for so long trying to find a good vape. Evods, t3s, cartos, carto tanks, etc etc etc. The vape was always too harsh, turned me away for a bit. Tried different nic levels, pg/VG ratios, resistances, everything. I thought that higher resistance meant a cooler vape.

Now I'm at 0.8ohms on an RDA and in pure Bliss. All the juice I thought I couldn't use is all of a sudden vapeable, I can happily say no to the one cigarette sitting on my counter beckoning me. Flavor is there, the right amount of th, the satisfaction. The frustration is gone.

I spent hundreds and hundreds on different devices and mods and juice, to be solved with a $30 mech, a $5 RDA, $5 worth of kanthal, and $5 worth of rolled cotton.


And all thanks to supe and pdib.

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[maf2k8]

I have just started getting into Micro coils myself ( still a noob pretty much in the Micro field ) and i have made a few and they seem ok at times, Though i am sure i am doing something wrong.

Though i do have a question that always sits in my head. I am sure i am wrong and if i am excuse me and please explain why i am thinking this..

A Micro coil is pretty much a coil that is micro in diameter ( like the sizes pointed out in that chart ) Well with that said, If i am building a Micro on a RBA, RDA or a Kayfun type.. Since the diameter is sooo much smaller that means the wick also will be sooo much thinner/smaller? Which i believe why most people are using cotton from cotton balls because standard wick material is to thick... Anyways, With that said, If the diameter is smaller and the wick material is not as thick, This means the wick cannot hold that much juice? am i correct on this? So i turn if your using say a RDA, You will need to drip more often, If using a RBA, Youll need to tilt more often and if your using a Kayfun type, You wont be allowed to chain vape, Since the wicking material is so much smaller it cannot hold that much juice? So chain vaping on a Micro is out of the question also?

Am i correct on these things that go thru my head? or no?

Like i said, I havent read much yet and am still new to them but if someone could correct me on these things that would be great.

 

[josho]

I have just started getting into Micro coils myself ( still a noob pretty much in the Micro field ) and i have made a few and they seem ok at times, Though i am sure i am doing something wrong.

Though i do have a question that always sits in my head. I am sure i am wrong and if i am excuse me and please explain why i am thinking this..

A Micro coil is pretty much a coil that is micro in diameter ( like the sizes pointed out in that chart ) Well with that said, If i am building a Micro on a RBA, RDA or a Kayfun type.. Since the diameter is sooo much smaller that means the wick also will be sooo much thinner/smaller? Which i believe why most people are using cotton from cotton balls because standard wick material is to thick... Anyways, With that said, If the diameter is smaller and the wick material is not as thick, This means the wick cannot hold that much juice? am i correct on this? So i turn if your using say a RDA, You will need to drip more often, If using a RBA, Youll need to tilt more often and if your using a Kayfun type, You wont be allowed to chain vape, Since the wicking material is so much smaller it cannot hold that much juice? So chain vaping on a Micro is out of the question also?

Am i correct on these things that go thru my head? or no?

Like i said, I havent read much yet and am still new to them but if someone could correct me on these things that would be great.

Cotton wicks eliquid stupid fast. So it's gonna depend on your setup and finding a rhythm. I don't feel like I'm missing out on more vape time using a dripper. It seems to last pretty well, on my v5 clone I use 7-8 drops and get a good amount of vape time before having to re-drip. I imagine a kayfun would keep up no problem. Using cotton on a microcoil on a evod and t3 I can chain vape like no ones business .

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[pdib]

Cotton does wick pretty fast. People do use them with success in protanks and such. The guy who introduced us to his micro coils (Super_X) uses a REO, a squeezebox, a bottom feeder, a goosebox, a squonk bucket. Many of us who have taken to the micro/cotton setup have since started squeezin' too. (I started building micros in a dripper, and then was introduced to gooseboxin'. Never turned back.)

 

[gankoji]

I tried my first cotton wick awhile ago and haven't looked back, I have a couple dozen feet of ekowool that as of now is going to remain unused and just take up space.

I was in my local vape shop this afternoon discussing coils and such. Everyone looked at me crazy when I said I did micros with cotton in my kayfun. Seriously. Then I had one of the employees tell me he wraps his 'micros' with a 7/64" drill bit. I could almost feel my skin crawling lol.

Seriously tho, cotton. Took the plunge, drank the punch, and follow supe's advice on the CVS sterile rolled stuff. Made a micro and wicked it, and never looked back. All of my RBA/RDAs are micros/cotton now. I can't tell you how much silica/ss mesh crap I have lying around that gets precisely zero use these days .

 

[gankoji]

I have just started getting into Micro coils myself ( still a noob pretty much in the Micro field ) and i have made a few and they seem ok at times, Though i am sure i am doing something wrong.

Though i do have a question that always sits in my head. I am sure i am wrong and if i am excuse me and please explain why i am thinking this..

A Micro coil is pretty much a coil that is micro in diameter ( like the sizes pointed out in that chart ) Well with that said, If i am building a Micro on a RBA, RDA or a Kayfun type.. Since the diameter is sooo much smaller that means the wick also will be sooo much thinner/smaller? Which i believe why most people are using cotton from cotton balls because standard wick material is to thick... Anyways, With that said, If the diameter is smaller and the wick material is not as thick, This means the wick cannot hold that much juice? am i correct on this? So i turn if your using say a RDA, You will need to drip more often, If using a RBA, Youll need to tilt more often and if your using a Kayfun type, You wont be allowed to chain vape, Since the wicking material is so much smaller it cannot hold that much juice? So chain vaping on a Micro is out of the question also?

Am i correct on these things that go thru my head? or no?

Like i said, I havent read much yet and am still new to them but if someone could correct me on these things that would be great.

I apologize for my last post being a little behind in the thread, I was distracted .

I roll micros in my kayfun (1/16" bit is all I use) with cotton. I chain vape all day.

 

[rob2655]

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[rob2655]

That's great that you've been doing this for a while, but many of us are new to vaping and are learning things every day. Don't knock us for it...encourage us along the ride.

that ↑ dude is 3-6 months late and $5 short. We perfected super_X_drifter's micro coil months before that guy even caught wind of it. As for this "dripping on a Genny" business...

All this stuff is from, like, March, or something. I left that shizzle behind months ago.

 

[super_X_drifter]

That's great that you've been doing this for a while, but many of us are new to vaping and are learning things every day. Don't knock us for it...encourage us along the ride.

Bro, we got your back. And are damn glad your here. And knowing pdib as well as I do, I know his intent was not to knock you . He was kinda underscoring these vape vid celebs that demonstrate how to build "micro coils" that aren't even micro coils

There has been a rash of that lately .

 

[pdib]

That's great that you've been doing this for a while, but many of us are new to vaping and are learning things every day. Don't knock us for it...encourage us along the ride.

Sorry, I tried to make it clear. I love that you are getting info wherever you can. And that you are learning and trying "new" things. Lately, that particular video "guy" has been rubbing me the wrong way. There have been a handful of instances where he takes/is given credit for things he has nothing to do with. And, sometimes, he botches the idea to boot. I'm glad that even he is getting some information out there. I would prefer, however, that a he get it right, and not "borrow" people's innovations without some props.