There's a New KR808 in town ...

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bobalex

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... and It Is Great!!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cigeasy/214412-my-own-review-elite-808-kit.html

I've had one for over a week now. I became a Go-go Maniac back in February. The Go-go was/is the best PV I've ever used.

But now ...

The Elite is in my pocket next to my Go-go.

SSV2 said it better than I could so go read his review and find out about The Next Step in the KR808 evolution/revolution.

How good is it?

Well ... I had to make a big purchase of e-liquid and cartomizers recently because we're moving to Canada. The big question was Where Do I Put My Money? Do I buy more huge Leo cartomizers for my fave-rave Leo? Do I get more supplies for my Echo?

Nope.

Go-carts, Elite cartos, and a ton of juice was all I needed.

If progress in E-cig technology stopped today ... I'd be perfectly happy vaping my Go-go and Elite for the rest of my life.

Bob
 

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So, your saying that it is as slim as a reg kr8 batt?

It looks to me to be about a 1/16 of an inch wider.

Last night I put an Elite carto on a regular kr808 auto batt. Worked perfectly. Every once in awhile "hands free" vaping situations arise ... somebody has to do the dishes.
 

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I've had a bunch of questions re: The Elite.

Here are some answers I previously posted:

... do you find that the button on this quickly resets? in other words, if you take your finger off of it for a split second and the push it down again, does it reset and give you a whole 10 more seconds before cutting off again?

When I hold the button down for 10 seconds it goes blinky 3 times for 1.5 - 2 seconds. Then you can hit it again.

But ... The TH on The Elite is very very good. I certainly can't draw on it for 10 seconds. Anyone who can has the lungs of an oboe player.

you also mention this is better than the maxxfusion, which certainly makes sense ... but might you explain how? ... if you were to take a 5 second hit from both a bloog manual (or auto, i guess) battery, and take a 5 second hit from the elite 808, are you getting:

a) more vapor
b) same or better taste (flavor)
c) stronger throat hit
d) all of the above?

The reasons I think The Elite surpasses the Bloog (or any other KR808 I've tried) are these:

  1. First off, The Elite button has the 3x on/off function. You'd have to do something fairly strange and complicated to get The Elite to accidentally fire up once you've turned it off.

  2. Aesthetically The Elite's carto perfectly matches the finish of the battery. It really looks cool and I dig the whistle tip.

  3. The Elite's carto holds 2ml of e-liquid.

  4. The draw is perfect. No "primer puff" needed, neither airy, nor too tight.

  5. The Elite more than satisfies when it comes to The Big Three - Flavor, TH, and Vapor Production.

  6. The Elite's battery outlasts any 65mm, 78mm (CigEasy, V4L, and Bloog), or CigEasy's 902 battery.

So to answer your particular questions ... I would definitely check "d".

... figured i'd ask you in SAT question format.

I don't remember my SAT scores. I do recall they weren't ... oh what's the word I'm looking for? ... Ah ... now I remember ... good.

Scholastic achievements aside ... everyone has their own PV Holy Grail. Mine is pretty straightforward: An e-cig the size of a Camel 100 that lasts all day.

Backstory Alert:

Initially I wanted an e-cig that would allow me a painless, fiddle-free, and seamless transition from analogs. Mission accomplished with CigEasy's starter kit. Then I killed a couple of batteries by sloppily refilling cartos so I switched to the sealed manual KR808. I needed longer battery life so I went with CigEasy's 902. Wanting an even longer battery life led me to CigEasy's Elegant, Elegant XXL 1300, and finally to the Go-go.

The Go-go completely satisfied what I wanted in a PV. A 3ml horizontal coil carto on top of a battery that lasts for days with The Big Three - Flavor, TH, and Vapor Production in abundance. I couldn't see how vaping could get any better but that didn't stop me from trying the Echo, Echo-e, and The Leo with its gigantor 4ml carto.

I absolutely love everything about The Leo. It's very well made and does everything I want in a PV but ... The Leo's 4ml carto is too dang pricey for me. The Echo-e's draw was just a tad too tight so that took it out of the running. The auto Echo was initially intriguing ... but it just didn't measure up. Nice e-cig but didn't compare to the vaping experience I'd become accustomed to via The Go-go. If I wanted/needed an auto 650 or 1300 mAh battery vaping experience, I'd just use an Echo battery with one of my KR808 cartos.

Which brings us to discussing KR808 cartomizers. I've used Bloog, V4l, and CigEasy's Gold Label Deluxe, Mini-Go-cart, and the Clear and Easy Tank cartos. My top two are the Mini-Go-carts and the Clear and Easy tanks. There are minor differences between the two. The Clear and Easy Tank is far easier to fill than any carto I've ever used. The taste of the e-liquid in the tank differs when using the same liquid used in a Mini-Go-cart but regardless ... still tastes great.

But ... an Elite carto is the best. The Mini-Go-cart and Clear and Easy tank are very very good but The Elite's carto just does the trick better. And ... if I want/need a "hands-free" auto Elite experience ... I just screw The Elite's carto on one of my KR808 auto batts. As I've said before ... somebody's got to do the dishes and when it's my turn ... I can still vape away.

To sum up:

A lot has been written about replicating the analog smoking experience. I initially bought an auto start up kit because I noticed there wasn't a button on my Camel filter and I wanted the closest thing I could get to ... smoking. After switching to manuals I didn't care that much there was a button involved. Some people are die-hard auto batt people. I'm not one of them. Over my last 544 days of vaping, the closest I've come to having an analog "experience" with a PV has been The Elite.

I became a member of Go Go Nation on 2/4/11. I've had a Go-go and an Elite in my shirt pocket since The Elite arrived in the mail. I never thought anything could surpass the Go-go but The Elite's TH is just a tad more. Just a bit more satisfying. But ... not enough to knock the Go-go out of my pocket.

I recently moved to Canada and since I didn't know where to get e-cig supplies, I had to invest in a pretty big stash to see me through until I could buy locally. I'm also a cheap guy. The question was ... where do I sink my hard earned cash? First buy e-liquid. All PG tobacco flavors and lots of them. Next: cartos. (Side Note: If I had a big pile of disposable income I'd get another Leo battery and a 5-pack of 4ml cartos. But I don't so I didn't.) Should I get some more Echo cartos? Nope. How about some Echo-e's? Nope.

I got a few Mini-Go-carts and Clear and Easy Tanks, but what I really needed/wanted were Go-carts and Elite cartos. Until my Holy Grail shows up (... an e-cig the size of a Camel 100 that performs like the Go-go or The Elite, that lasts all day.) I'm set.

Disclaimer:

When I got the Leo I finally found out what it was like to vape using an atomizer, cartridge, or direct dripping. All I can say is that it may have been better than the state of the art cartomizers a couple of years ago. I don't know ... I started vaping with CigEasy's starter kit on March 6th 2010. I have no idea what was going on in e-cig technology before then. Soon after I started vaping "premium" cartomizers showed up, and then the horizontal coil cartos. I'll take an 808 batt and a "premium" carto over a 3-piece e-cig any day. Direct dripping is fun every once in awhile, and it is useful to test e-liquid, because who wants to fill up a 2, 3, or 4ml cart with a new untried flavor only to find out it isn't what you want another puff of? Bottom line? My personal preference is always a 2-piece over the 3-piece format e-cig.

Disclaimer #2:

I'm all PG tobacco flavors all the time.

Long story short (too late) ... Get The Elite. Video Geek Analogy Alert: The Go-go and The Elite are HD. Everything else is Standard Definition.

Bob
 

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I normally use a eGo (tornado) with CE2's or I drip. If I am going to drive in the car for a while I usually bring along a go go. Over the last 3 years I have used pretty much everything, I'm a bit of a kit nut. I think it's finally time to step up to a variable voltage mod.

Also up for grabs is a go-go pro, it is a slightly higher voltage and I didn't care for it as much as a regular go-go, I know this isn't the place to post it. I will put it over on the classifieds.

I usually just get new kits until I find one I like, then the rest collect dust... I go through this cycle about every 6 months haha. I have so many stinkin' USB adapters!!
 

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applecracker, i was considering purchasing one of these... might i ask you what it is about these that you are not impressed by? and what is it about these that you hoped they would have that they don't? i've been a faithful user of non-mod kr808-d1's since i started vaping 2 years ago... just using v4l, and graduating to bloog maxxfusion. i realize you have more extravagant tastes and have tried much more, but for someone like me, would you think the elite is still a step up from the regular kr808d-1's? thanks in advance!
 

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Well, I can tell you, and keep in mind... this is all subjective. there is nothing WRONG with the elite, that I can tell. It does not have near the flavor or throat hit of a bloog. In fact, if you are a KR8 user, I just got a g6 from Halo, and I must say, it is really really good. I prefer it to the bloog, it's a little warmer and the carts have lasted me a number of fills so far. The bloog I only got a few refills out of them before I felt them start to slip a bit.

I never tried the v4l cartos, but I have heard very good things about them. I will say nothing hits quite as good as a 36mg bloog carto FRESH. But after that first run at a cart, the really fall off in performance. I should also note this was about 6 months ago, their technology may have improved. They were a little over priced IMHO.

The Elite gave me really no throat hit, I was shocked, I expected waaaaay more. I could forgive it if there was a lot of flavor, but alas no.

Again, this is just MY opinion, and who's to say I just didn't get a bad unit. Since you have a BMF I can say that in the three main categories (TH, Vapor, and flavor) the BMF wins hands down. The elite does however win in battery life, and carto size.

Hope this helps you.
 

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applecracker, to add to my last post,,, i was just looking at the g6's on the halo site... are you saying that the batteries themselves are superior to bloog, volt, etc (the newer tech kr808 batteries), or is it just the carts? i have plenty of batteries, but i'm wondering now if i should get some of the g6 batteries,,, or if the cart performance would be just as similar if i use the g6 carts on a bloog battery. you seem to be a big throat hit and high nic guy like myself.... i use 36mg strength all of the time, and still yearn for an even greater throat hit! do you find that the 24mg juices that halo carries rivals any of the 36mg juice as far as throat hit? namely the tribeca juice? (i'm a sucker for ry4 flavors, and heard great things about tribeca!)
 

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So far in these carts I am using 24mg Halo flavors. Not a TON of hit, but that prime 15 hits pretty well and you really can't beat the flavor. I am using some BWB Hunter's right now at 24mg and the flavor is good, not a huge throat hit. Keep in mind this cart has gone through about 15 refills this since I started it on Friday, that's my big knock on the MF style carts... they hold less than a mil of juice. If I can get a cart to last a week I would be pretty happy! The old bloogs just lasted a few days before they seemed to run out of gas.

I wish someone would make a MF stlye ecig that lasted all day, then I would be happy. I was hoping that I would find that in the Elite, but no.

As far as throat hit, ce3's might be the real deal! BUT, performance does drop after 3-5 fill ups, or at least that has been my experience. Which is way better than the old days and early versions of the ce2's, which seemed to last One!!

I am a huge fan of clearos and if they ever get perfected and were easier to fill they would be a heaven sent item!
 
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