Things the HH-357 have made me realize.

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RocketRod

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Oh My! I thought my REO was a fog machine before with a Cisco 1.5, but it wasn't. I finally found time to read this entire thread and get over the nervousness and tried my HH357 1.5. Oh my, Oh my! I'm using100% VG, and hope I don't prematurely kill it.

Way back in the thread someone suggested trying a COV atty that has wicks in it, anyone tried one and recommend them as a back-up type thing? I dunno, I tried a CE2 and hate them so I'm leary.
 

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Oh ya,,5 of my 357's tunred 6 moths old on 4-1-12 so now going on month 7,,,,,,,,,,,,,,is 20+ worth it,,, Uhm, I think very much so, all 5 are on Reo bottom feeders, 2 Grands, 1 Woodvil, 1 VV Woodvile, 1 Mini,,, keeping them wet is obviously a good part of this longevity, and build quality speaks for itself here,, Hanna is a master Atty builder extraordinaire.. No other Atty ( I've used them all ) has lasted this amount of time. This is no BS, all 5 now going on Month 7 and I rotate these 5 mods all day long, along with a couple others and those are on month 4 I believe
 
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It's amazing that you guys have had so much luck with yours. I really did like mine- I mean really- it spoiled me!! Then on day 7, I decided to clean it but took one last vape before I did and it died. I sent it in and was told it was the carbon build up on the coil (even got a confirmation picture)...and had to do with the juices I vape (all VG tobacco flavors). I was told I could have it rebuilt for $10 plus the shipping and I declined. The Aero that was suggested, I didn't find as good as the EM LR that is much cheaper. I don't know- guess I'm wating on Steve's rebuildable Atty- I'm an Atty Killer!!!
 

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Oh ya,,5 of my 357's tunred 6 moths old on 4-1-12 so now going on month 7,,,,,,,,,,,,,,is 20+ worth it,,, Uhm, I think very much so, all 5 are on Reo bottom feeders, 2 Grands, 1 Woodvil, 1 VV Woodvile, 1 Mini,,,

Well another way I look at the cost of the HH's is that they really aren't that expensive......when you consider my REO collection has to grow!
 

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I'm using a 2.5Ω long barrel right now and it's quite nice. :) I'm running it at 4.3v.

Why so low on volts, is that your preference or other reason. I ask because at your above numbers you are around 7.39 watts. I have regular Reo Grand and use 1.8 ohm carto and switch out batteries at 3.8 therefore most of my vaping is around 8.02 watts, I am very happy with this setup and taste but I was waiting for VV Grands and the more I read can't help but wonder if I need VV?
Thanks.
 

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Why so low on volts, is that your preference or other reason. I ask because at your above numbers you are around 7.39 watts. I have regular Reo Grand and use 1.8 ohm carto and switch out batteries at 3.8 therefore most of my vaping is around 8.02 watts, I am very happy with this setup and taste but I was waiting for VV Grands and the more I read can't help but wonder if I need VV?
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It's low because that is where I started....uh...actually started at 4.03v. I'm moving up to see what I like...but I'm taking my time. New atty, new batteries, and new mod. Just being thorough. :)
 

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So is anybody using fruit-flavored juices that is having this extended-life experience? I do not vape tobacco juices whatsoever. I vape 80pg/20vg Berry, Mojito & Pina Colada flavors sweetend via Tasty Vapor that are almost clear in color. I can't get these HH357s to last or stop gurglin'. I'd assume that constant gurgling is normal since I'm not getting the spitting that happens when new.

I use an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner with a small water-submerged glass jar filled with PGA ever 2 or 3 days to clean. They soak over night in the PGA and then (3) 3-minute runs in the Ultrasonic device. Then I drain and 4-5 drops of pure VG until they head back into rotation. Hanna also sent me a picture of the carbon build up on one that only lasted 3 days. So it was "No soup for you" J/K! He's a really nice guy and I do not blame him for what appears to be my juice choice issues.

I have been having pretty good success with the Vapage Hybrids but the build quality and general design doesn't hold a candle to Cisco or Hanna. The flavor of the COV/Vapage hybrids is great while they last but that's week(s) not months. I vape coffee flavors in the mornings but typically use Boge cartos or Cisco 306s with those as the flavor is already so thick that the muting doesn't matter. Never tried a HH357 with my coffee vapes. Any help/advise would be greatly appreciated. Brew :toast:
 
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these are a $22 to $25 atomizer; I am super careful tooo. i was actually a little surprised when i saw the VId Hanna did about setting them up right; he did a 1.5 at 4.1 on a Provari... 4.1 ! on a 1.5 is high imo... here i was starting at 3.3 and going up to 3.5... it was the vid about how to pull on these things... air flow etc.
I feel a little easier about pushing the voltage now, but really the 1.5's are kind of intended for 3.7 mods no?
I use them on both VV and 3.7's ... i like his 1.5's because they vape like a 1.8 or 2.0 Ohm atty.
Just bought a 2.0 510 because that's all thats left....
It's low because that is where I started....uh...actually started at 4.03v. I'm moving up to see what I like...but I'm taking my time. New atty, new batteries, and new mod. Just being thorough. :)
 

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So is anybody using fruit-flavored juices that is having this extended-life experience? I do not vape tobacco juices whatsoever. I vape 80pg/20vg Berry, Mojito & Pina Colada flavors sweetend via Tasty Vapor that are almost clear in color. I can't get these HH357s to last or stop gurglin'. I'd assume that constant gurgling is normal since I'm not getting the spitting that happens when new.

I use an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner with a small water-submerged glass jar filled with PGA ever 2 or 3 days to clean. They soak over night in the PGA and then (3) 3-minute runs in the Ultrasonic device. Then I drain and 4-5 drops of pure VG until they head back into rotation. Hanna also sent me a picture of the carbon build up on one that only lasted 3 days. So it was "No soup for you" J/K! He's a really nice guy and I do not blame him for what appears to be my juice choice issues.

I have been having pretty good success with the Vapage Hybrids but the build quality and general design doesn't hold a candle to Cisco or Hanna. The flavor of the COV/Vapage hybrids is great while they last but that's week(s) not months. I vape coffee flavors in the mornings but typically use Boge cartos or Cisco 306s with those as the flavor is already so thick that the muting doesn't matter. Never tried a HH357 with my coffee vapes. Any help/advise would be greatly appreciated. Brew :toast:
I got the photo of my gunked up coils too and so did Tenndave. I wish I had saved that photo. I would like to compare it to your photo. I wonder if they look might identical. IF so many juices are bad for the HH357 why isnt there a list of juice flavors that are not reccomended for this atomizer. Seems everyone that goes prematurely dead is the juices fault. Strange but these same juices I use don't kill my regular Joye 306s early.
 

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Any juice is going to gunk up a coil,,with darker juices and additives gunking them up more, its heating that coil properly and keeping the gunk off of it that makes it not get so gunked up, maintaining that Atty and keeping an eye on them. Attys aren't made to last forever. I've been extra fortunate with my 357's lasting very long, maybe longer then normal but then again I'm rotating about 10 of them, five getting used all day long rotating different Mods. Really though at a pack of smokes costing $6-$10 that's 2-3 packs for the cost of 1 357 so if you get a month out of a 357 in my opinion your way way ahead of the game. Everyone isn't going to buy and use them, but for there performance, quality, and in my case longevity as well, there worth every cent,,

Maybe someday they will come down in price, but hand made Attys like this aren't ever going to cost what the ones from China do that are mass produced and whipped together in about 15 seconds. It all boils down to cost, preference, flavor, the overall whole situation in my opinion. It seems everyone complains when there Atty goes too, my guess is most is user error, some may not be as strong as others, getting use to them and how they run over the standard and other Atty's, but all in all the coils, build & QC that goes into the 357 is above and beyond others. These Attys are dam good no matter how you play the hand. I have blown 1 in 8 months now, out of running 11-12 of them,,, Hanna's doing something right here when I lay my odds down on the table for as many as I'm using and how long they not only last but how dam well they vape and taste.

I'm also running a thick heavy VG juice in all of mine, its all I use. 5 @ going on 7 months says something to me, and the 1 that I did blow was my own fault for hitting it to dry to many times ( even though it looked wet it wasn't ). I'd put these up against any other Atty on the market, bar none there the very best of the best and it cost to play and have the Best of anything. If ya blow an Atty ya gotta be able to afford to screw another one of these on, or use them as a treat if not, if not then you should be buying the $5-$8 Atty's, if ya want the best of the best then you can afford to play and twist on another 357, if she blows she blows,,but again when I look at all the ones I'm running I'm miles ahead of the game because the cheaper ones don't last me nearly as long as a 357 does, doesn't vape as well, and doesn't have nearly the flavor the 357 does, so I'm paying for all of those differences and find them to be #1 just my 2c
 

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matt, you should do a video on the hh cause you are for sure doing something....no, everything right when it comes to these attys. i think im almost there myself. when i get mine back from hanna...i hope very soon i just know im gonna have great results this time. thanks for the help you gave me.
 

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Yeah, the "thick, dark juice" apparently killed mine (at a week) but I only used Flue Cured and another RY4 and often mixed them... I even had the sweetness and strength of my RY4 reduced by 1/3...both fully VG, so there were NO dark juices that I used. I do still have the picture of my gunked up atty (will have to dig it out of old emails), so if anyone wants to compare, send me a PM w/ your email address.
 

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I have had pretty good luck with mine so far too. I've been using it for two months and it works as well today as it did the day after i got it (needed about a day to break in). I give it a vodka bath about every six days and always blow it out from the connector end. It has held up. I haven't found any other atty that produces this amount of vapor while still providing superior flavor.

I am not so enthusiastic about it on my REO, however. Mine is a short barrel 2.0 ohm. It operates fine on my REO but even the slightest overfeed makes it spitty. I've come to the realization that I really don't care for juice in my mouth. When I buy some more of these, they'll be long barrels. And, if I were buying just for my REO mini, I think I would choose a 1.5 ohm next time. --> For my future VV REO, I think I'll stick with 2.0 ohm. It's really nice with VG juice between ~4.2 and ~4.5v.
 
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